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Offline Ronaldthe1

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« on: February 12, 2004, 11:54:57 PM »
Picked up a TC Encore 209x50 over a year ago never shot, would like to get into muzleloading, what books are in print that will get me going in the right diriction?
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2004, 12:17:45 AM »
Ian McMurchy's "Modern MuzzleLoading for Today's Whitetails" is a good choice.

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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2004, 02:04:43 AM »
Although I have several books with good information, MOST are obsolete.  Black powder substitutes have changed, new projectiles are developed every day, and most ML books don't even mention an Omega.  

Best bet is to listen to someone that has been down that road before.  There's really not that much to it any more.  

If it were me the first thing I'd do is buy the Warne or T/C Maxima bases/rings and mount up a good scope.  I'd then buy some Winchester 260gr Platinum Tip and some 250gr SST/Shockwave projectiles along with some Triple Se7en pellets and ffg loose.  You'll also need some 209 primers.  Just pick up whatever is handy around town.  I buy them by the 1000s.

Accessories.. My favorite accessory is a Knight range rod.  You'll use that to clean the bore with a spit-patch between shots and to clean after a day of shooting. You'll also need some patches and some powder solvent of your choice.  

Where in Alabama are you from?  I'm in Athens.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2004, 07:15:18 AM »
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Although I have several books with good information, MOST are obsolete


I'm glad to be able to disagree with Chuck-- you're in a good situation, as the Encore manuals is one of the best, and that is covered in the McMurchy book as well.

Not much has changed-- Triple 7 is now popular as a propellant, and there are a few new bullets to try like the SSR / Dead Centers, but they are still sabots. Aside from that, very little is not the same as it was, and a book dedicated to the Omega would just be trivia. It is a 209 fired inline hammer gun, but that is not a shocker to an Encore owner. I can think of a couple of good, topical videos, though . . .

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2004, 11:31:06 AM »
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I live in Tuscaloosa.  The Encore came with a rear peep sight, fiber optic front, rear standard fiber optic,  and I think the TC weaver style base with Leupold rings. I have a simmons 2.5x shot gun scope im thinking of mounting if the peep doesnt work out, but for hunting i might have to stick with the peep.

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I dont mind watching a few videos, what can you suggest?
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2004, 01:33:54 PM »
:shock: I was referring to my own, trailer clips of which are linked beneath my name. 8)  8)  8)

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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2004, 01:57:11 PM »
Of course I will reply.....

I didn't indicate there should be a book DEVOTED to the Omega.  I DO feel a book that doesn't even mention the "MOST INFLUENTIAL RIFLE OF THE YEAR" to be somewhat obsolete.  Then there's "PROPELLANT OF THE YEAR," Hodgdons Triple Se7en.  No mention in any books I have.  

Also there are numerous mentions of "Markesbery" and "Mountain Sate" in the books I have.  Where are they now...

Some owners manuals are obsolute when printed.  My Omega owner manuals make no mention of T/C Shockwave projectiles OR Triple Se7en at all.

Still, my T/C, Knight, and Austin Halleck owners manuals DO tell me BASICALLY anything I need to know.  Also, if a good historical/overview muzzleloading book is your thing "The Complete Blackpowder Handbook" by Sam Fadala is as good as any.  Still, I could have done without it and have learned mostly from others as well as from time at the bench.
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2004, 02:01:04 PM »
Ronald,
I used to live in Tuscaloosa...  Hunted a LOT in Pickens, Green, and southern Tuscaloosa counties.  

Also, be THANKFUL for Woods and Water..  There is no sporting goods store up here even close.  They just don't put the effort into it that Tony does...  All the stores up here open at 10am and close at 6pm..
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2004, 02:59:36 PM »
Chuck,

Well, since you bought (at least) one example of every single muzzleloader I recommended on the videotapes (you missed only one), I must be doing something right! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

It does go to show that the manufacturers do need to do a far better job explaining how to get the most out of their products, as many questions as remain after folks get their new muzzleloaders. That actually was part of the motivation for doing the videos in the first place, as most of the guns tested (and other items) did not even exist four or five years ago.

The Fadala, McMurchy, and Lyman books are all "must-haves" as far as I'm concerned, at least for those who have more than a casual interest in muzzleloading. Toby Bridges has a new book out soon, that is likely to be the most topical. As far as "obsolete" just because an Omega, brand of powder, or specific bullet is not mentioned-- that hardly changes things.

With the Omega, really-- how easy can it get, and what is there that really needs to be said about it other than lube your breech plug and clean your barrel? As much as we might try to complicate a muzzleloading rifle, it is still a just barrel with a touch hole of some sort attached to a hunk of plywood or plastic.

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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2004, 01:45:40 AM »
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Yep Woods & Water is the best place in 30 miles. Ive gotton to know Tony real well over the past 5 years. Great place great people there.  You need to come up and check out the new store off of Skyland Blvd. The one in Northport is still open too.

Thanks for the help got a few books this weekend and had time to check out al the web sites. now time to load up on powder, primers, and bullets .
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