Many forensic psychiatrists view on causes of mass murders

[KIMBER45]

http://www.americanessays.com/study-aids/free-essays/psychology/cause-of-adolescent-mass-murder.php

[Conan The Librarian]

National Public Radio tells a different story. Their experts point to the pattern of ready availability of guns that can be legitimately be acquired. More people listen to NPR than the right-wing society pages.

[BUGEYE]

National Public Radio tells a different story. Their experts point to the pattern of ready availability of guns that can be legitimately be acquired. More people listen to NPR than the right-wing society pages.

LOL, that's not surprising coming from NPR.

[powderman]

The punk that murdered the kids murdered his mom and STOLE her guns. The punk at the mall a few days ago also used a stolen rifle. POWDERMAN. 

[Conan The Librarian]

Powderman:
 
You're simply going to have to get with the NPR way of communicating. It's all passive-aggressive. They are quick to report that his mother taught him to shoot and that her guns were legally acquired and therefore the guns in this case were legally acquired (that's not a typo). She took him to the range to shoot. They imply that a lot of it is the fault of having guns in the home.

[ironglow]

Prof Lott tells the obvious truth..
 
   The biggest culprit is the "gun free" school zone..
      Couple that with a crippled adolescent mind, violent video games and that law is an open invitation to turn a school into a shooting gallery.
 
   Newsmax: The media typically spins these mass shootings as an American phenomenon. They suggest we ought to be more like Europe, with strong gun control, because then we would not have these problems. Is that true?

Dr. Lott: No. Europe has a lot of multiple victim shootings. If you look at a per capita rate, the rate of multiple-victim public shootings in Europe and the United States over the last 10 years have been fairly similar to each other. A couple of years ago you had a couple of big shootings in Finland. About two-and-a-half years ago you had a big shooting in the U.K., 12 people were killed.

You had Norway last year [where 77 died]. Two years ago, you had the shooting in Austria at a Sikh Temple. There have been several multiple-victim public shootings in France over the last couple of years. Over the last decade, you’ve had a couple of big school shootings in Germany. Germany in terms of modern incidents has two of the four worst public-school shootings, and they have very strict gun-control laws. The one common feature of all of those shootings in Europe is that they all take place in gun-free zones, in places where guns are supposed to be banned.


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[Anna]

We've been told to be careful about getting involved with this. There are to many PC Doctors being
coached by the MSM weighing in on this and its become a matter of what's called professional
courtesy. In other words, they are going to spin this the way they want us to hear it.
This is shapeing up to be a big one guys, and we are not going to convince the politicians to admit
anything that might show their policy's might be at fault also. Sure your going to find all kinds of
story's and reasons all over the web. But it is the talking heads and bloggers within the televised
media that are going to do the most damage to our rights. A loner and mentally disturbed with a
survivalist mother, this is how I heard it described last night on Fox News. As far as the loner part,
isn't it strange that that definition is always a key factor with all of these shooters ?

But this time they are going after the survivalist, or the hoarders as they are calling his mother now.
Her being dead we can't get anything out of her about the days leading up to this. Any witnesses to
that are dead now, so we don't know what she was saying to her friends or colleagues before this
happened. And the original reports of two shooters ? Did this guys brother chicken out at the last
minute ? The principle of this school must have been expecting him or thought he only wanted to
see his mom for him to be buzzed in. Something just stinks about this whole deal, it was to
convenant for the agendas of those who want take our guns. And to allow them to single out any
hoarders, a popular new reference to a survivalist. Who of course may be hoarding ammunition
and supply's that could aid in the support of any counter move against what they have in store for
us.
 

[Conan The Librarian]

Just another crack pot doctor who is peddling solutions that no politician wants.  Without the periodic crisis, they've got nothing to do but spend other people's money.

[ironglow]

Guins have always been present in almost every American household..and there were no such events many years ago.   Extremely violent movies and violent video games have only been around for a couple decades... about as long as these kind of mass killings have been taking place.
  We are inundated by poli-jabber concerning "gun violence"..and not a peep concerning the murderous movies and video games.  Don't expect to hear about this from the leftie politicians..
          http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/15/entertainment/la-et-obama-hollywood-20120215

[buck460XVR]

Just another crack pot doctor who is peddling solutions that no politician wants.  Without the periodic crisis, they've got nothing to do but spend other people's money.

Or have the opportunity for THEIR 15 minutes of fame. This is what these terrorist attacks are all about. 15 minutes of fame. Not only is the shooter in these attacks trying to make a place in history for himself, but then the media also gives everyone with an opinion that mirrors theirs a chance to be in the spotlight also.  These attacks have nuttin' to do with anger or gettin' even. It's all about folks with no self worth trying to make a name for themselves using the media to escalate them from being someone nobody notices to a household name. Take away the media, their hype and sensationalism and you have little left but the grief over those killed by the worm for his place in history.

[ironglow]

Some school districts cannot/will not protect the teachers, say nothing about all the students..  Forget the killers breaking into a school..how do they plan on protecting decent students from other students? 
   Here's what happens in a blue city in a blue state.     
http://www.buffalonews.com/Article/20121220/CITYANDREGION/121229901
   Check this related video out:  http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/buffalo/teacher-describes-attack-by-teen
 
   NO...guns have very little if anything, to do with student violence..  Perhaps in light of this incident, chairs should be registered and students would have to sit on soft, inflatable chairs..
      Besides; why wasn't this listed as "chair violence"..

[Victor3]

Guins have always been present in almost every American household..and there were no such events many years ago. 

 Actually there have been quite a few...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

[ChungDoQuan]

I'm going to stick my neck out a bit here and say that I personally DO blame the Conn. shooter's mother, at least partly. She HAD to know that her son had mental health issues, and she SHOULD HAVE controlled his access to those firearms. There are a lot of shootings by LEOs where the perp has mental health issues and the family does nothing to get guns away from the screwball until they finally wig out and pull a gun. That usually ends with the family trying to take action against the police because the guy was nuts and got shot.

[magooch]

There it is; proof that even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while.

[Redtail1949]

Blame the mother? A bit premature I would think. He shot her in the face they say. I this time we do not know if she surrendered her firearms to him under the threat of death. Perhaps he had a knife to her throat. It jus might be that he stole them from her without her knowledge. no different that stealing from any person he knew had a firearm. the killer was the son not the mother and he and he alone bears that responsibility.
everone wants a nice neat, easily corrected, solution to an age old problem. crazy people killing innocent people and yes many times before this, multiple people were killed.
the real horror to all of us is the ages of the children it strikes a persons heart in a way shootings that occur between 3 or 4 gangbangers on the streets almost daily never will.

[ironglow]

Guins have always been present in almost every American household..and there were no such events many years ago. 

 Actually there have been quite a few...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

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   I stand corrected..I inadsvertantly used an absolute in saying no such incidents occurred before that time...  I should have said  virtually no such incidents occurred back then.

[BBF]

The punk that murdered the kids murdered his mom and STOLE her guns. The punk at the mall a few days ago also used a stolen rifle. POWDERMAN. 

That situation sure points to poor and inadequate storage security.

[goodshot]

got to be the games, I just can't think of firearms in terms of hurting people.

[BBF]

got to be the games, I just can't think of firearms in terms of hurting people.

 
Quantity wise I think you are mistaken. The number of military firearms must outnumber the ones for civilian use by a large amount.

[ironglow]

got to be the games, I just can't think of firearms in terms of hurting people.

 
Quantity wise I think you are mistaken. The number of military firearms must outnumber the ones for civilian use by a large amount.

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   Considering it philosophically, for more years than not, our (US & Canada) military arms have been thought of as for the purpose of killing people (UN moves excepted)...but rather, for the purpose of deterring others from killing us.  Only when others start trying to kill us, do they usually incur meeting with our arms in a hostile way.  This especially goes with our "big guns"..the nukes.
    Most powerful, non-expansionist nations possess the arms they do, primarily for their deterrent value. That is exactly why a single, non-expansionist super-power is a good thing.  If the liberal/socialists get their way and there is no benign super-power...we can look forward to continuing conflicts between world-wide mix of passive and aggressive states of roughly equal power.
   Historically, we can cite.. 1) "Pax Romana" and..2) our "cold war" years...  The first one, dominance by a super power, and the second a standoff between 2 super powers, followed by a short period of leadership by one super power.
 
   If instead the world, following the liberal/socialist lead, becomes a mix of battling minor powers...with today's nuclear, chemical & bio weapons..things can become toxic for all of us very quickly.

[351 power]

1. violent video games
2. inadequate diagnosis and treatment of mental illness
3. 24/7 media sensationalism of every mass killing, resulting in pushing the already unbalanced toward acts that will fulfill their escalating need for violence and teasing them with the promise of sure infamy
   

[ChungDoQuan]

Y'all are overlooking one important fact about the drugs: something like 95% of all psych drugs are prescribed by doctors who are not psychiatrists. It's that god complex that many docs have, plus the perks from the companies that make them. Most of them have pretty bad side effects. For example, did you know that, in addition to the psych effects, all antidepressants cause obesity? Bleeding?

[ironglow]

Y'all are overlooking one important fact about the drugs: something like 95% of all psych drugs are prescribed by doctors who are not psychiatrists. It's that god complex that many docs have, plus the perks from the companies that make them. Most of them have pretty bad side effects. For example, did you know that, in addition to the psych effects, all antidepressants cause obesity? Bleeding?

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   This is a major factor and includes all drugs..legal and illegal..
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     From research;
   Psychoactive drugsMain article: Substance-induced psychosisVarious psychoactive substances (both legal and illegal) have been implicated in causing, exacerbating, and/or precipitating psychotic states and/or disorders in users. This may be upon intoxication, for a more prolonged period after use, or upon withdrawal.^[14] Individuals who have a substance induced psychosis tend to have a greater awareness of their psychosis and tend to have higher levels of suicidal thinking compared to individuals who have a primary psychotic illness.^[55] Drugs that can induce psychotic symptoms include cannabis, cocaine, amphetamines, cathinones, psychedelic drugs (such as LSD and psilocybin), κ-opioid receptor agonists (such as enadoline and salvinorin A) and NMDA receptor antagonists (such as phencyclidine and ketamine).^{[14]
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       Do you suppose this is why such mass murders were for the most part, unheard of 40-50 years ago?  There were plenty of guns available back then..}