Hussein gets more specific about the gun control he wants.

[powderman]

 Obama Adds Specifics To What Type of Gun Control He SupportsBert Atkinson Jr. December 18, 2012 5:01 pm       
Earlier this week, White House spokesman Jay Carney spoke in vague terms about gun control in the wake of the Newtown school shooting last week, but now he has given more substantial information on what the entails:
 

Briefing reporters, Carney outlined some of the proposals Obama is backing, noting “his support for reinstatement of the assault weapons ban, his support for closing the so-called gun-show loophole.”
Carney said that Obama spoke with Sen. Joe Manchin — an NRA member who has expressed support for new regulations in the wake of the shooting — about what they can do.
“He is absolutely supportive of Sen. Feinstein’s stated attempt to revive

[the assault weapons ban],” Carney said, saying he would also support a ban on high-capacity magazines. COMMENT below: Gun owners, will a ban on assault weapons have any affect on your personal gun ownership?

[tom548]

I these economic times it is ashamed the amount of money that will be spent either getting these bills passed or defeated. Hopfully defeated.

[Mike in Virginia]

All this talk and posturing by the liberals will fill the pockets of gun dealers.  Get your magazines and ammo while you can. 

[45-70.gov]

''i  didn't  vote for ROMNE because.........................''




THANKS ALOT........don't ever vote for a democrat

[guzzijohn]

And how many here think that Romney would not be doing the same or more so than Obama?
GuzziJohn

[Conan The Librarian]

+1

[BUGEYE]

Twice in the last few days I've heard hussein say that he would be looking at the 2nd amendment.

[DDZ]

Yipeee..government is going to save us from killers with assault weapons! All this is going to be is another step up on the power transfer for government.

I have always wondered, what the heck is a gun show loop hole?

[Swift One]

  Twice in the last few days I've heard hussein say that he would be looking at the 2nd amendment.

I cannot find any links to this.  The only thing that I have been able to find is that he is planning on talking abiout gun control in the state of the union speech.  Please provide some links and when is the next state of the union?

[Swampman]

And how many here think that Romney would not be doing the same or more so than Obama?
GuzziJohn

I don't believe Romney would be doing the same thing.  He's much smarter than the boy king.

[45-70.gov]

Yipeee..government is going to save us from killers with assault weapons! All this is going to be is another step up on the power transfer for government.

I have always wondered, what the heck is a gun show loop hole?

yes  what is the ''gun show loop hole''??


when  i hear some one talk about it they are usually morons with out a clue

[Ranger99]

is that where you peek through the
wall to look at the gun show?

[Swampman]

I have always wondered, what the heck is a gun show loop hole?

If you're not a dealer, you can rent a table and sell guns without filling out the yellow sheets.  This will mean no private sales anywhere anytime.  All sales will have to go through a FFL.

[Ranger99]

i don't know about anywhere else,
but around here if someone wants to
make an illegal gun purchase i would think
going to a public place full of law-enforcement
officers and surveillance equipment and
paying an admission would be way at
the bottom of the list.
the illegals here have already driven up
the price of used firearms to a stupid
level.

[Swampman]

These private sales aren't illegal but there's no record or background check.  That's why they call it a loophole.

[streak]

And now, do not know if this subject has already been posted but " Obammy" has appointed " Smokin Joe" as the head of the Task Force for the commission on Gun Control! Now friends that should really be a " Think Tank" of high intelligence!! 

[SharonAnne]

no matter what hussien says or does, he has no power to alter or suspend the Second Amendment. While he may write an Executive Order, they are in fact illegal. Nothing in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights grants such power to the President of the United States of America. I know Presidents have done this but they are all ILLEGAL.

[45-70.gov]

I have always wondered, what the heck is a gun show loop hole?

If you're not a dealer, you can rent a table and sell guns without filling out the yellow sheets.  This will mean no private sales anywhere anytime.  All sales will have to go through a FFL.

so  why is it called  GUNSHOW loophole?
a private sale is a private sale anyway
i talked to some ATF guys when they check my records
they are all over the gun shows under cover
i guess shutting down the gunshows would scater the perps


look   at LINE 19 on  ATF FORM 4473......on page 2
this is the closest thing  i can find to a ''gunshow loophole''
please ask your dealer for a form 4473 if he will give you one....maybe obsolete one
here  it is ...on page 2




http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-4473-1.pdf

[reliquary]

They call it "the gun show loophole" as a derogatory term to make it sound bad.  It has been used since the so-called AWB of 1994 because they couldn't include in the AWB the power to stop one law-abiding person from legally selling a gun to another law-abiding person.  The "loophole"  they want to ban includes sales outside the entrances to gun shows, as well as banning sales by nonFFL dealers inside the building.  The intent seems to be to eventually regulate all firearms sales in the US, by making everyone go through an FFL dealer.

[SHOOTALL]

These private sales aren't illegal but there's no record or background check.  That's why they call it a loophole.

So whats to stop them from making deals in other places ? Here we have a trading post , it is a paper printed each week with stuff for sale or things people wish to buy. It always has a  hundred guns listed. Then there is the one on the radio every day which may have a gun or two. Even gun shops , I have seen people bring in a gun to sell or trade and not be offered enough for it only to be approched before leaving to see if they would sell it .

[SHOOTALL]

The gun show loop hole in reality is the place where gun owners meed and exchange ideas and report negative gun news to each other. Stopping them would be a big thing in that it would cut off alot of communication or at least put a computer address with a statement.

[GUNNUT in Iowa]

The gun show loop hole in reality is the place where gun owners meed and exchange ideas and report negative gun news to each other. Stopping them would be a big thing in that it would cut off alot of communication or at least put a computer address with a statement.

Well, yes, but if that is the end goal, wouldn't that be a violation of my First Amendment rights?   

[SHOOTALL]

The gun show loop hole in reality is the place where gun owners meed and exchange ideas and report negative gun news to each other. Stopping them would be a big thing in that it would cut off alot of communication or at least put a computer address with a statement.

Well, yes, but if that is the end goal, wouldn't that be a violation of my First Amendment rights?   

Quite but does that matter anymore to some ?

[marked trail]

 Are the events of the past week coincidence or is this a nightmare for gun control?
The new 2012 UN Small Arms Treaty is aimed at trafficking in small arms and components to countries and groups that use them to slaughter each other in civil wars and genocides.  Its effect on gun control in America is yet to be determined, and its effect is projected to be far reaching.   It is talking about restricting US arms sales to places like Sub-Saharan Africa, but it has potential to do with whether or not American manufactures can keep exporting small arms, ammo, and semi- and automatic guns, that is currently a 55 billion dollar American business.
The purpose of the Treaty is stated as the effort for all nations “to elaborate a legally binding instrument on the highest possible common international standards for the transfer of conventional arms and ammunition."  It will have far reaching effects on gun ownership.
It will hamper the imports from Glock of Austria, Rossi/Taurus of Brazil (think handguns) and Beretta of Italy (think high end shotguns) into the USA.   It was approved by our State Department in July, but the Obama administration will showcase the results of Biden’s task force on Gun Violence during further discussions in New York on April 18 to 28, 2013.  The Treaty is being opposed by most firearm and sportsmen groups.  We need to be vigilant.

[DDZ]

The gun show loop hole in reality is the place where gun owners meed and exchange ideas and report negative gun news to each other. Stopping them would be a big thing in that it would cut off alot of communication or at least put a computer address with a statement.

Well, yes, but if that is the end goal, wouldn't that be a violation of my First Amendment rights?   

Quite but does that matter anymore to some ?

Yes if it was up to some, in our government, maybe the number is now many. They would, crumble up the Constitution and throw it in the garbage can. Our Constitution has already been partly torn up over the years, due to governments hunger for power. They would not hesitate to let First Amendment rights to be stepped on.  The 2nd Amendment to the Constitution is the most important right. Without it we will be reduced to nothing but a herd of sheep, for dictators to rule over.
We are about to get another chip taken out of our 2nd Amendment rights. We the people had the chance to reduce the chips from falling, but we have failed, through ignorance and stupidity at the voting booth. Once the 2nd has enough chips taken out of it, the rest will fall. We have made the bed that we will lay in. 
Its very disturbing that we as a nation continue to vote for those that are hell bent on removing our rights in the name of safety, and other excuses. This crap had to be stopped at the voting booth, not after the fox is in the hen house.
We know what the Democrats will do. Just watch what the pathetic bunch called republicans do, who claim to be conservatives. Just about our whole government now is nothing but a bunch of corrupt, evil Marxists.           

[BUGEYE]

  Twice in the last few days I've heard hussein say that he would be looking at the 2nd amendment.

I cannot find any links to this.  The only thing that I have been able to find is that he is planning on talking abiout gun control in the state of the union speech.  Please provide some links and when is the next state of the union?

You have to sit through his speeches to catch it, and the media is not going to take him to task, so there are no links.    he will kinda mumble it at the end of a hateful diatribe.

[BUGEYE]

 
Its very disturbing that we as a nation continue to vote for those that are hell bent on removing our rights in the name of safety, and other excuses. This crap had to be stopped at the voting booth, not after the fox is in the hen house.
We know what the Democrats will do. Just watch what the pathetic bunch called republicans do, who claim to be conservatives. Just about our whole government now is nothing but a bunch of corrupt, evil Marxists.           

Since we cannot muster enough people at the polling places, we sure couldn't muster enough to have a revolution.
The founding fathers are rolling in their graves.

[SharonAnne]

as with the Founding Fathers, we are a minority. Most don't care one way or the other as long as Big Time Rasslin is on the  boob tube and the welfare check keeps coming. Just like the Roman Empire we are at the bread and circuses state.  Keep the pablum slurping masses fed and entertained and you can do most anything you want. The few Patriots that truly understand the Constitution and Bill of Rights must stand tall and challenge the First Emperor of the New American Empire. Eventually he will run out of people to tax since already over half of the jobs in the USA are tax supported. Tax supported jobs COST money, they do not generate any. Some day the people who do produce goods and services  will tire of it all and just QUIT.

Who has read ATLAS SHRUGGED? The producers tired of giving to those who demanded but did not work. We may have to do that. Shut it all down and let those who are a blight on the Country just die out. Those who demand "entitilements" will have to die off. We have multi-generation welfare families with 2-3 cars, A/C, color TV and cable and cry out that they deserve more because they are poor or black or both. If their ancestors had not been slaves they would know true poverty, living in a mud hut, fearful of the irregulars who make great sport of rape or the removal of arms, ears, lips and noses. Slavery is a major industry in Africa. To blame slavery on the early Americans is to deny history. Slavery is alive and well in Africa though it is now called human trafficing.

Before the hussein obamanation in the Oval Office concerns himself with gun control in the USA, he should try making it work in the home land of his birth, Kenya.

[DDZ]

Its the dumbing down of America that has bought us to this point. It has been done through the government run schools, and all media outlet. We like to think of all gun owners in America of being on the right side of 2nd Amendment issues, but that is far from being true. In the past I have heard gun owners say things like "they need to do something about assault weapons". Or "what does anyone need a semi auto rifle for". When I hear things like this from fellow gun owners it makes me cringe. It does tell me though, that they have been kept ignorant from what they hear or read.
When gun owners are willing to let government dictate what guns are safe for us, that semi-auto, or pump shotgun you use for bird and water foul hunting will not be very far down on the list of guns the government will deem unnecessary. Again government does not really care about our safety. They are not wanting to ban assault weapons to save us from more Adam Lanza's. Its all for governments purpose of transferring power from us to them. You can bet the ranch on that.