Author Topic: Seacoast Artillery's Ninth What is it? Where is it? Contest (Read 3381 times)

MKlein · « **Reply #30 on:** December 28, 2012, 05:18:57 PM »

#8
Cadwalader Park-Trenton, New Jersey
Parrot breech swamp angel 8"

Cannon Cocker · « **Reply #31 on:** December 28, 2012, 05:20:27 PM »

5. location Fort Knox It is located on the western bank of the Penobscot River in the town of Prospect, Maine, about 5 miles from the mouth of the river.

MKlein · « **Reply #32 on:** December 28, 2012, 05:39:00 PM »

#2
4.5 in. Ordnance Rifle marks a monument to Rhinebeck's veterans, Rhinebeck Cemetary, Rhinebeck, NY

seacoastartillery · « **Reply #33 on:** December 28, 2012, 05:39:31 PM »

Skidmark now owns #8, even the difficult location. Registry No. 6 fired only 36 shots, but the incendiary mix inside DID NOT endear Quincy Gillmore to the citizens of Charleston, SC!! FULL CREDIT, Skidmark.

Tracy

Cannon Cocker · « **Reply #34 on:** December 28, 2012, 05:56:51 PM »

3. Gun is 1844 24 pounder flank howitzer.

MKlein · « **Reply #35 on:** December 28, 2012, 05:57:39 PM »

#4 Fort fairfield maine
24lb iron seige gun 1845 (I threw this in while i was looking)

Cannon Cocker · « **Reply #36 on:** December 28, 2012, 06:50:36 PM »

9.

The guns in the picture are the QF 1-Pounder. It was a 37 mm British autocannon.

Cannon Cocker · « **Reply #37 on:** December 28, 2012, 06:58:08 PM »

9. The ship is the C-6 USS Olympia in Philadelphia PA

seacoastartillery · « **Reply #38 on:** December 28, 2012, 07:03:50 PM »

Skidmark, That's a very nice answer on #2 for both type and location. When I sold milk and ice cream for Sealtest in the early 70s, just after leaving the US Army, I used to eat my lunch on that tube as I developed new business on the east bank of the Hudson. FuLL Credit on #2 for Skidmark.

Cannon Cocker, with that very complete answer on #3, you now have FuLL Credit for that one. Congrats!

Skidmark, You have 1/2 Credit for #4 location but please read the caption again for the type clues. Looking at your desciption of the type of ordnance, all I can say is Huh??

Tracy

Cannon Cocker · « **Reply #39 on:** December 28, 2012, 07:24:34 PM »

4. 1840 6 pounder field howitzer. 51.25" long

MKlein · « **Reply #40 on:** December 28, 2012, 07:24:59 PM »

#4
6-pounder bronze field gun, Model of 1838

Cannon Cocker · « **Reply #41 on:** December 28, 2012, 07:29:24 PM »

I knew about both and guessed the 1840 because you said "slightly" earlier. Who got it?

Cannon Cocker · « **Reply #42 on:** December 28, 2012, 07:32:10 PM »

I will modify mine to 1840 6-pounder field gun (not howitzer)

MKlein · « **Reply #43 on:** December 28, 2012, 07:48:31 PM »

Time For a turkey sandwich
I got blisters on my fingers from googling

Cannon Cocker · « **Reply #44 on:** December 28, 2012, 07:52:39 PM »

Time for sleep. Skidmark has a cannon pointed at my heart with this dual and I'm getting tired.

Cannon Cocker · « **Reply #45 on:** December 28, 2012, 08:09:57 PM »

6. 1864 32 pounder Dahlgren.

Cannon Cocker · « **Reply #46 on:** December 28, 2012, 08:10:47 PM »

6. 1864 32 pounder Dahlgren.

Cannon Cocker · « **Reply #47 on:** December 28, 2012, 08:21:37 PM »

The Dalgren was probably a naval gun.

Cannon Cocker · « **Reply #48 on:** December 28, 2012, 08:48:23 PM »

After doing a little more research I found that the Dahlgren 1864 32-pounder is actually more correctly a 32 pounder Bureau of Ordnance gun of 4500 lbs.

seacoastartillery · « **Reply #49 on:** December 29, 2012, 05:00:06 AM »

I see you gentlemen have been busy while I was snoozing. Let's deal with the Fort Fairfield, Maine gun first. This gun was first presented to the GBO membership several years ago by Spuddy who lives in nearby Presque Isle. It subsequently became the subject of a bronze cannon by our own artist and sculptor, Rocklock1. Gary made a perfect wax positive and then had it cast by a local founder who knew how to cast this size cannon. Heck, I liked it so much I even bought one!

Anyway, back to business. The Ordnance Board designed a lighter bronze field piece for horse artillery which weighed only 690 pounds. It was 6.25" shorter and a little slimmer than the M1835. The 1841 weighed around 880 pounds. The new horse artillery gun was the Model 1838. Sorry Cannon Cocker. Because he previously had the location, FULL CREDIT goes to skidmark on #4.

Tracy

seacoastartillery · « **Reply #50 on:** December 29, 2012, 05:21:09 AM »

Cannon Cocker, you first named the cannon shown in #6 as an 1864 32 Pdr. Dahlgren. This is such a common error, that I will admit to being fooled myself. On a road trip in 2004, Mike and I decided to visit the Old Stone Fort near Schoharie, NY. I remembered a grade school trip to the fort from Lark Street Elementary in Cobeskill, NY. What really impressed me were the two cannon mounted on the front lawn. For 55 years, I remembered them as Dahlgren guns, but I was fooled! When we parked the car and walked up to the stone church (fort) with the cannonball hole in the back wall, we saw that the cannons looked a little large to be Dahlgrens. At about 1,000 pounds heavier, they were obviously 32 Pdr. Bureau of Ordnance guns of 4,500 pounds and the clear markings confirmed that.

So, the more famous cousin got cha! But you recovered and did more research which is often necessary we've found and corrected your description to be correct. No loc. on this one yet, so you get a solid 1/2 Credit for # 6.

Tracy

seacoastartillery · « **Reply #51 on:** December 29, 2012, 05:36:37 AM »

Sorry Flagman, I must have been tired last night; I missed your excellent location for cannon #9 in your Reply #22. This makes Cannon Cocker's subsequent location statement to be correct, but not counted in his column. You both are challenged by the type, however and I thought this gun type was going to be the hardest so don't be depressed. It is smaller than a 6 Pdr., but larger than a 1 Pdr. What is it?
This designation goes way beyond mere bore size; for these guns, the pounder designation is part of the gun's primary description and should be stated.

Cannon Cocker did get one important element in his description of #9, however, and without this element the Type description would be lacking. He stated this: "The guns in the picture are the QF 1-Pounder. It was a 37 mm British autocannon". Well which element is correct here? Not British, not autocannon, not 37mm, not 1 pdr., but the QF makes up for all of those. You see the "QF" stands for "Quick Firing", and that is EXACTLY what you needed when your ship was being attacked by small, fast, Torpedo Boats!!

So whose design was this gun (probably the maker, but maybe not as the maker could have made it under license from the designing company) and what size was it?

Tracy

Cannon Cocker · « **Reply #52 on:** December 29, 2012, 06:02:04 AM »

9. Its a British 2lbr auto cannon or somtimes known as a pom pom gun because of the sound it made.

RocklockI · « **Reply #53 on:** December 29, 2012, 06:02:21 AM »

#4 1838 bronze 6lber Pesipsi Isle Maine

. I know I butchered the city name .

Gary

ETA #10 Fort Ligonier . (outpost of the empire)

seacoastartillery · « **Reply #54 on:** December 29, 2012, 06:22:19 AM »

Thank you for your participation, Gary. This one was answered by someone last night, but you didn't know that, because you were engrossed in watching re-runs of Judge Judy and were oblivious to our carefully crafted Contest. And yes, you did butcher the name and will most likely be hearing from Spuddy about that.

Other than that, have a nice day.

TK

seacoastartillery · « **Reply #55 on:** December 29, 2012, 06:33:31 AM »

Cannon Cocker posted this about #9: "Its a British 2lbr auto cannon or somtimes known as a pom pom gun because of the sound it made." Sorry, but all these elements of type description are wrong. I'm sure you realize that I say that, not to be mean, but to push you and other contestants in a different direction, hopefully toward an accurate description of the Type of cannon it really is. I knew this one would be a "B" and it has certainly proven to be exactly that.

Tracy

seacoastartillery · « **Reply #56 on:** December 29, 2012, 06:36:58 AM »

At this time I will review my answers matrix to see what the score is so far and I will post my results right here as an addendum.

Tracy

Double D · « **Reply #57 on:** December 29, 2012, 06:41:41 AM »

The pom-pom was the 37 mm Nordenfelt-Maxim or "QF 1-pounder" introduced during the Second Boer War.

MKlein · « **Reply #58 on:** December 29, 2012, 06:50:30 AM »

#6
Hampton Falls, New Hampshire
Park across from 87 Lafayette Road

seacoastartillery · « **Reply #59 on:** December 29, 2012, 07:59:50 AM »

1) Cannon Cocker 1.0 Credit Cannon Cocker 5.5 Total
2) Skidmark 1.0 Credit Skidmark 4.5 Total
3) Cannon Cocker 1.0 Credit Flagman 1.0 Total
4) Skidmark 1.0 Credit
5) Cannon Cocker 1.0 Credit
6) Cannon Cocker .5 Credit
Skidmark .5 Credit
7) Cannon Cocker 1.0 Credit

Skidmark 1.0 Credit
9) Flagman 1.0 Credit
10) Skidmark 1.0 Credit
11) Cannon Cocker 1.0 Credit

Before I declare that Cannon Cocker is the winner of this highly competitive Contest, I would like to have Cannon Cocker and Skidmark to go over their totals for score as a double check on the accuracy of my Score Matrix. If either of you disagree with my computations, please explain in detail with descriptions of TYPE and LOCATION and to which REPLY # these were posted. Thanks. I will allow one hour for this. Nice answer on the location of #6, Skidmark! You and Cannon Cocker got .5 Credit each on that one. Lots of clues within that photo, but without bumping it up in size, they are difficult to see.

Thanks, Double D. on that clarification on the POM POM Gun. I knew that those looked different from the one on the Olympia and were a smaller bore gun, but didn't know they were used in South Africa. Thanks!

Tracy