Author Topic: New federal regs for buying ammo?? (Read 1927 times)

powderman · « **on:** January 01, 2013, 12:54:07 PM »

I finally found some 22 shells at a walmart today, after looking for 6 wks. Still no bulk bricks but I did manage to buy 3 bxs of mini mags, all they had besides stingers and shorts. I went to pay and the guys says he needs my ID, I say, you can't tell that I'm well over 21?? He says, new fed regs. I get my drivers license out, he takes it from my hand and SCANNED it. Next guy in line says, obama wants to keep track of whos buying ammo, he already knows about the guns. Anybody else notice this?? The clerk said it was a new reg. I was hurting or I'd of gotten a mgr there to further explain the need for scanning my DL. POWDERMAN.

kennyd · « **Reply #1 on:** January 01, 2013, 02:39:34 PM »

Except for the scanning, I think he is full of it. I guess there could be a new reg that hit on the 1st. I got the last 250 count of "competition" something .22's at my Wally. Guy asked of it was for a pistol or rifle. I sure as heck look all of my near 65 years. I said rifle, so didn't have to show ID, should have said "yes". Now, can I still shoot it in a pistol?

mechanic · « **Reply #2 on:** January 01, 2013, 02:52:00 PM »

Hopefully a FFL will join in here, but I've been unable to find any new regs. that require this. It may just be a Walmart reg.....CYA stuff.

Ben

Swampman · « **Reply #3 on:** January 01, 2013, 02:58:35 PM »

Walmart requires ID for certain items. No matter what.

powderman · « **Reply #4 on:** January 01, 2013, 04:23:31 PM »

I have no problem SHOWING ID but have a big problem with them SCANNING my DL. I think I'll contact their mgt there tomorrow. Never had my ID scanned before and it really ticks me off. This is the first 22 ammo I've bought in looking for bulk ammo for at least 1 1/2 months. I guess I'll have to start buying whats available. I haven't been plinking for months because I didn't want to shoot up what I have if I couldn't replace it. Stopped by KMART today and they had no 22s at all, they carry very little ammo anymore. I saw an empty spot for bulk dynapoints, $32 a brick, ridiculous. Looks like I'm going to have to spend the xtra $ for CCIs if I want to shoot, and I do. POWDERMAN.

PowPow · « **Reply #5 on:** January 01, 2013, 04:31:24 PM »

I had to send Midsouth Shooter Supply a scan of my D/L to get some ammo a few years ago.

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 01, 2013, 06:26:00 PM »

If Walmart starts doing this I will cease to buy ammo from them. My local country store sells ammo behind the counter, he would never check ID even if the government did require it.

facetious · « **Reply #7 on:** January 01, 2013, 10:25:53 PM »

I was in a Walmart not long ago and had to show my ID to get a can of brake cleaner . Had to show I was over 18 or 21 or what ever the age limit is. And I am almost 56 with gray hair on my chin

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30-30man · « **Reply #8 on:** January 02, 2013, 12:45:52 PM »

Nope, it's a Walmart thing. I bought the left over 9mm my local gun store had which was only three boxes and no id required. When I asked, they said it was Walmart's way of preventing pistol round sales to minors. The scan was probably just so the system knew it was a legal sale. I never buy ammo at Walmart simply due to them not having it and I can get it just as cheap from my dealer. My two local Walmarts have nothing to sell except bird shot 12ga. They are actually a little higher on some ammo than my dealer, so I give business to him. Not all my local dealers are doing this. I went into one of them two days ago and they wanted $15 a box for Brown Bear 7.62x 39 fmj. I stay out of that place.

Poopers · « **Reply #9 on:** January 03, 2013, 02:46:01 AM »

No scanning or even asking of ID here in wonderful Montana at the local sporting goods stores.

oldandslow · « **Reply #10 on:** January 03, 2013, 04:30:10 AM »

I think it's an area thing. My local store started asking to see ID a few years ago (never scanned) although other area Walmarts didn't but stopped a couple of years ago. As late as December they still weren't asking for ID but I haven't purchased anything since and certainly can't now. I moseyed by the gun counter yesterday while the wife was buying vegetables just to see what the panic frenzy did to them. A few bolt rifles and a few shotguns in the rack and no popular ammo of any caliber on the shelves. Plenty of shotgun ammo.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #11 on:** January 03, 2013, 05:04:27 AM »

along the same lines some stores in Va. require proof of citizenship to buy an AR type rifle or such. Voter ID card , Birth cert. or pass port .

gypsyman · « **Reply #12 on:** January 03, 2013, 06:14:29 AM »

Speedway gas stations tried the very same thing when you bought beer. A few years ago. I was over 50 by the way, went in to buy a 6 pk. on the way home. Clerk behind the counter wanted to see my DL, I kinda chuckled and said no problem. But, when he tried to grab it, I pulled it back, and asked him what he thought he was doing. He said he had to scan it, and it was Ohio law. Sorry buckwheat, that is not state law, and your not going to scan it, I politley said. He said, no scan, no beer. So, walked out, left the beer on the counter. Went into a local carry out, and bought it, no id check required. I guess my bald head and beer gut was an indication I was over 21. It's a Walmart deal, and I wouldn't buy any ammo there. Way to expensive anyway, can reload for less than 1/2 of what they charge. gypsyman

lakota · « **Reply #13 on:** January 03, 2013, 09:10:00 AM »

ChinaMart's policy is asinine. I purchased 9mm ammo once and then they ask me if it was for a pistol or a rifle. I say rifle. No more questions. It doesnt prevent people that are under 21 from buying anything. I believe they are tracking purchases. I wont buy squat from them anymore. As a matter of fact I would be tickled to death if ChinaMart went belly up and had to close down all of thier little dens on iniquity from coast to coast. Then the little guy could come back and fill in the void and we would all be better off in the long run.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #14 on:** January 03, 2013, 09:20:34 AM »

Yep, it is a Walmart thing. However, the feds use Walmarts sales as an indicator of how the economy is doing. Walmart has 10% of the total retail sales in America. No other store comes close. Don't buy ammo at Walmart. Our local Academy Sports has ammo at Walmart prices. Never asked me for ID. From now on, I am going to pay for anything gun related with cash. Only ammo I buy is 22LR. I reload everything else. However buying components over the internet requires some type of credit card. So, have to hit gun shows. Local stores carry some reloading stuff, but not as good a selection.

powderman · « **Reply #15 on:** January 03, 2013, 02:11:45 PM »

Went to my old WM today where I used to work and talked to an old mgr I knew. She said there was NO wm policy of scanning, NO state or fed law. I bought a box of stingers as that was the ONLY 22 ammo left. I called the other store and talked to mgt there. He said that fed law required them to verify age. I said, I'm 65 years old, mustache is white and some hair is too, it should be apparent that I was over 21. He said that they did NOT scan my license and that maybe the guy was simply verifying my ID. I told him that the clerk told me it was a new fed reg and that they wanted to know who was buying what, then I told him it was none of WM business who I was and he agreed. He said he would try and find out who sold me the ammo because it sounded like he might need retraining and had given out too much info. I'm still ticked about that. POWDERMAN.

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 03, 2013, 04:16:16 PM »

I'd be ticked, too Pman. That's way too invasive. Showing an ID is one thing but having it scanned into their system is another.

I'm lucky that all the gun counter guys at my walmart are into guns. They would be just as angry as me if my walmart started doing that.

powderman · « **Reply #17 on:** January 03, 2013, 05:15:06 PM »

I showed no ID for the box of stingers I bought today at my old WM, and no, I didn't know the guy. WEll over 1/2 to 2/3 of the gun rack was empty. POWDERMAN.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #18 on:** January 04, 2013, 01:47:34 AM »

It could be that the employee was getting information for his personal criminal use . If you also used a credit card he would have enough info. to take advantage of you . Just a thought.

Dixiejack · « **Reply #19 on:** January 04, 2013, 03:06:31 AM »

ID'ing is a local thing that's carried to the extreme by uninformed clerks. About 2 years ago, I went into Walmart with my wife and I had to show them my ID when I was buying some wine and cigarettes. Also, they had to get a clark who was over 21 y.o. to ring me up. State law.
A month later, I was back in the same store and they had some .22 LR bricks on sale. The clerk ask me if the .22's were for rifle, shotgun, or pistol. I ask why he wanted to know and he said if it was for a pistol, I had to show my DL. I told him it was for my shotgun, paid him, and walked out. Seriously, he said shotgun (Read DA's). Clerks are given rules to follow and are probably threatened to be fired if they don't follow them.

powderman · « **Reply #20 on:** January 04, 2013, 04:39:56 AM »

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I told him it was for my shotgun, paid him, and walked out. Seriously, he said shotgun (Read DA's). Clerks are given rules to follow and are probably threatened to be fired if they don't follow them.

DIXIEJACK. HEH, loved it. After being passed for a transfer for sptg goods years ago I asked the new guy for a box of 13 ga 4 in dbl mag # 4 1/2 shot. He smiled and said, I'll get em for ya as he turned arond and started looking. POWDERMAN.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #21 on:** January 04, 2013, 09:37:00 AM »

The libs want to limit ammo purchases to two boxes a month. Don't know if that is for each caliber, or per person. That ain't gona get if for 22LR, much less stuff like 9mm, 223, etc, especially if you want to shoot. So far they haven't mentioned messing with reloading.

spikehorn · « **Reply #22 on:** January 04, 2013, 01:49:43 PM »

I believe it's a walmart policy not fed reg. In New York state walmart wont sell you pistol caliber ammo unless you have a pistol permit

375supermag · « **Reply #23 on:** January 04, 2013, 02:18:17 PM »

Hi...

I buy bulk packs of .22LR at WalMart all the time. I sometimes 3-4 bulk packs at a time as a safety stock. They are the cheapest place around for .22LR plinking ammunition.

I also buy the bulk 100-round bricks of shotgun shells there for missing clay birds. They usually have the best prices on those also.

Nobody has ever asked me for ID for ammo at WalMart.

That is about the extent of my WalMart shopping (with the exception of birthday cards).

powderman · « **Reply #24 on:** January 04, 2013, 02:34:00 PM »

357 SUPERMAG. Bought any lately?? I've been trying for 2 months to find any bulk pks at 4 different walmarts. POWDERMAN.

mechanic · « **Reply #25 on:** January 04, 2013, 03:49:38 PM »

I've been to a half dozen or so ammo sellers in the last two weeks, including two Wally Worlds. No 22 to be had except some CB shorts and some WMR. Folks in these parts must be arming up for war.

Ben

FPH · « **Reply #26 on:** January 04, 2013, 03:53:39 PM »

Try Academy if you have one.....they have a load here.

Spirithawk · « **Reply #27 on:** January 04, 2013, 06:02:45 PM »

Our local Wal Mart was sold out of .22's and the guy said he wasn't sure when they could get more in. There a sudden demand for them or sumptin?

guzzijohn · « **Reply #28 on:** January 05, 2013, 02:09:33 AM »

Quote from Spirithawk:
" Our local Wal Mart was sold out of .22's and the guy said he wasn't sure when they could get more in. There a sudden demand for them or sumptin?"

Nothing but a whole bunch of stupid people.
GuzziJohn

ironglow · « **Reply #29 on:** January 05, 2013, 02:24:41 AM »

It's basically a Walmart thing... I was asked about 3 months ago for my CCW permit when I wanted to buy some .44 mags. I said, " Just FYI..I'm buying the .44 mags for a rifle, not a handgun".. The clerk says.."it makes no difference"..
I have since bought .44 mags elsewhere...in fact at a gun/hunting store about half a mile from that Walmart.

It wouldn't surprise me if Walmart dropped all guns and ammo..but don't get jerky and blame Walmart!

Keep in mind, the unions and other sickening liberal groups have had it in for Walmart for years...and any way they can blame something upon Wally-World..they will take it and run with it !!

Just imagine someone were to buy a 10/22 at Walmart and go shoot a neighboring merchant.. Do you suppose for one short moment..that the unions and liberal hyenas wouldn't ballyhoo that event to the stars ?