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NC police warn of preparing for martial law in 2013.
« on: January 04, 2013, 07:11:21 AM »
 NC Police Warn of 2013 Martial Law Plans 01/04/13

A North Carolina police lieutenant says the police are already preparing the use of military-style of drones. Why? They expect things to get bad.
From Secrets of the Fed:
 
In this broadcast of the
Cybertribe News Network, a North Carolina Police Lieutenant calls in to give his first hand knowledge of preparations being made within his own department to train and prepare for martial law in the United States, possibly in the coming year.
 
Many similar reports are starting to trickle in from all across the country, through various independent media resources and even organizations like Oath Keepers.
The consensus is that a major economic event is expected, and that it will be used to provide cover for the institution of draconian policies being readied behind the curtain.
The exact timing of this event is not clear, but we do know the planning is being done, and that provisions are being put in place.
Read more at http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2013/20130104001-nc-warn.html#SFJ8LqY51D2T8lH3.99
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Re: NC police warn of preparing for martial law in 2013.
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2013, 07:56:59 AM »
if this is such dire news why is no main stream NC media carrying anything on it? I check several NC newspapers and TV stations websites and not a peep.
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2013, 07:59:39 AM »
Pretty interesting. Police Lt with 31 yrs service say's he's going home to protect his family. He didn't say who he was protecting them from. Now if this is happening in N.Carolina, to work I would thing it would have to happen every where at the same time. Word will get out aboput it and the rest of the country will be alerted, don't think government would want that. And why N. Carolina first, or maybe there's several states involved. Last I heard, N Carolina if full of good ole boy's. This has to be one of the things I have to see to believe! It would mean that the US Marshall's office support's it. I takeover, I doubt it. Then at some point it must assume that the military would have to be involved, Not sure most of the military would support this. I would hope that if our government is stupid enough to try this that they could well lose military support, law enforcement and not to mention all the weapons in civilian hands. I think there would be a lot of civilian's turn in their gun's but, no where near enough.

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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2013, 08:17:33 AM »
Any effort to simply apply martial law in the US would run into some huge roadblocks:


1) Would police and military be willing to enforce it?  Even if you have the generals, you need the Colonels on down - these are the people who typically lead coups - and here in the US might very well remember that their oath is to the Constitution.


2) Don't forget that the National Guard is under the command of the governors.  Any effort to federalize the entire Guard would be a huge red flag.  Given that many state governments would object to such a power grab, how would you deal with the Guard and Air Guard units from the states?


3) In addition to the formal National Guard states could raise militia forces.


So, how do you get US soldiers in the regular army to fire on troops from say, the Utah or Texas National Guard?  They might do it, they might not.  Any way you look at it, it's a huge risk that could very well result in Civil War II.  I worry much more about slow gradual loss of our freedoms, than a sudden power grab.
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2013, 08:36:53 AM »
Any effort to simply apply martial law in the US would run into some huge roadblocks:


1) Would police and military be willing to enforce it?  Even if you have the generals, you need the Colonels on down - these are the people who typically lead coups - and here in the US might very well remember that their oath is to the Constitution.


2) Don't forget that the National Guard is under the command of the governors.  Any effort to federalize the entire Guard would be a huge red flag.  Given that many state governments would object to such a power grab, how would you deal with the Guard and Air Guard units from the states?


3) In addition to the formal National Guard states could raise militia forces.


So, how do you get US soldiers in the regular army to fire on troops from say, the Utah or Texas National Guard?  They might do it, they might not.  Any way you look at it, it's a huge risk that could very well result in Civil War II.  I worry much more about slow gradual loss of our freedoms, than a sudden power grab.

That is the design of the left.  They want a rebellion.  At that point, they can institute any policy and use military power for enforcement.    Obama says he is going to transform America....take him at his word.   Get your guns and ammo now.  The storm is coming.

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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2013, 08:43:56 AM »
I saw on Fox news that the Detroit Police handed our flyers to people coming into the city for a ball game that said, "Enter Detroit at your own risk," and went onto explain the high rate of violence there. 

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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2013, 09:24:33 AM »
The mainstream media is in the tank with Obama.  The unemployment for November was revised UPWARD from 7.7 to 7.8%.  Decembers was reported at 7.8%.  Revisions for December will come out mid January.  Unemployment for blacks went UP, and is at around 15%, unemployment for women went up .2%.  Only 115,000 new jobs in December.  Well the population grew more than that, and the number of new young people entering the market is higher than 115,000.  Young people have a 11-12% unemployment rate.  Not good.  Obama is NOT a DEMOCRAT in the TRADITIONAL terms.  He is a COMMUNIST.  Watch 2013 Obama's America and read his books from the library.  Nuf said.  Obama is anti Colonialist, anti Capitalist, and Anti Christian (traditional).  This comes from "Dreams FROM my Father" his book.  He thinks America is the biggest of the three "C's" country.  Remember he said "America is the greatest country in the world, vote for me to help CHANGE it".  Why would he want to change the greatest?  He thinks we have been unfair to blacks, Africans, American Indians, etc.  He thinks our capitalist system "exploited" them and "took" their means of improving themselves.  Primitive stone age cultures weren't improving themselves.  They were barely getting along.  It was Muslim slave traders that introduced black slaves to the west.  Hmmmm. 

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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2013, 09:33:25 AM »
75% of ALL murders in the US are committed in 4 cities, New York, LA, Chicago, and Washington DC.  If you throw in the next 5-10 largest cities.  I would bet it is over 90%.  Those 4 were mentioned by the NRA because they have the most gun control of the largest cities.  Detroit was once the 5the largest city, but now it has dropped way down because people are moving out.  I know Houston is the 5th largest now. 

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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2013, 10:33:52 AM »
why N. Carolina first?
well they did start the civil war. ;D
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2013, 02:01:05 PM »
THere are some folks now REALLY wondering about the millions of rounds bought for husseins homeland security force and fema. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2013, 02:17:21 PM »
I thought this was a joke but Reagancoalition just posted a pic of the Police Lieutenant !
Now I'm truly concerned  8)
 

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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2013, 02:24:38 PM »
As Jay Leno would say, "Erie Similarities", a couple of years ago someone on here recommended some books by Matthew Bracken, a Trilogy, the "ENEMIES" series. Some of the incidents in those books are extraordinarily close to recent events, and the first book was published in 2003, 10 years ago. You might want to check them out, they a good read,.......fiction?.....maybe not entirely.
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2013, 06:22:12 PM »
Yew guys what think the military and law enforcement won't follow orders and fire on US Citizens jist ain't been paying attention. Not all mind you some will resist no doubt but they won't last long as their fellow military and LE will shoot them down with no hesitation. The majority will just follow orders and be happy for the chance to kill more people.


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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2013, 12:05:32 AM »
It was S. Carolina who was the first state to secede from the Union on 12/20/1860.  And the NG has
been Federalized for some time now. This is why a lot of state Governors are so tolerant of militias
operating within their perspective states.

Our own former Governer Gary Johnson was so inclined that he himself even went as far as
appointing the high ranking officers that would be commanding our militia forces.
He stated that after the NG had become under the direct command of the President that he was
doing this to keep some kind of control over his state.

It was Bill Clinton that removed the power of the Govenors to control the NG.A local militia officer
here in Roswell was in direct contact with Govenor Johnson back then and I believe he still is
with Govenor Martinez now.

Both of these Govenors are hard line Republicans both past and present and i can't see either one of
them ever relinquishing all their control over to the Federal Government . That hasn't ever worked in the past in this state and I doubt its going to work now.


 

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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2013, 03:17:28 AM »
Anna, you are right.  I had my carolinas upside-down.  of course it was SC.
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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2013, 05:32:14 AM »
Any effort to simply apply martial law in the US would run into some huge roadblocks:


1) Would police and military be willing to enforce it?  Even if you have the generals, you need the Colonels on down - these are the people who typically lead coups - and here in the US might very well remember that their oath is to the Constitution.


2) Don't forget that the National Guard is under the command of the governors.  Any effort to federalize the entire Guard would be a huge red flag.  Given that many state governments would object to such a power grab, how would you deal with the Guard and Air Guard units from the states?


3) In addition to the formal National Guard states could raise militia forces.


So, how do you get US soldiers in the regular army to fire on troops from say, the Utah or Texas National Guard?  They might do it, they might not.  Any way you look at it, it's a huge risk that could very well result in Civil War II.  I worry much more about slow gradual loss of our freedoms, than a sudden power grab.


^^^all makes sense.


but the in response to the last paragraph...IMO when obama "Terms out" he will have made preparations thru these next four years to accomplish, (Or at least try) a coup-de-tat.


i would not put ANYTHING past this president and his administration including declaring martial law to keep power.


we still have no concrete answers for "Fast and Furious" and who's responsible for the debacle in Benghazi and we're likely NOT to get satisfaction from this administration.


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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2013, 08:24:25 AM »
Anna, you are right.  I had my carolinas upside-down.  of course it was SC.


No big deal Bugeye I knew you probably knew that . And I have made that mistake myself before.


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« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2013, 12:01:05 PM »
Yew guys what think the military and law enforcement won't follow orders and fire on US Citizens jist ain't been paying attention. Not all mind you some will resist no doubt but they won't last long as their fellow military and LE will shoot them down with no hesitation. The majority will just follow orders and be happy for the chance to kill more people.

 
GB. You bet they'll fire on us. The majority have been raised in libby homes and gone to libby schools. I fear that they have been brainwashed to believe that an armed society is the enemy. News a while back showed that they have been training at FT Knox for house to house fighting for several years now. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2013, 01:29:02 PM »
There is one flaw to that way of thinking. If a solider from Ill is down in Texas carrying out orders
like this and witnessing the carnage . Don't you think he is going to be concerned that a soldier from
Texas is up in Ill doing the same thing to his family ?
Of course he is , that is where this all will fall apart. Now LE is the ones that could go both ways.
If they are jerks now even around folks they know, then they will be jerks during this also.
But once again, who is it that's doing this to the cops family while he is out doing it to others ?
Unless battle lines are drawn, in that case a completely different set of rules will apply .

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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2013, 03:54:16 PM »
I may be mistaken but I believe the NG was used with the police to disarm the law abiding citizens in N orleans. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2013, 04:31:39 PM »
It was NG that shot up Kent State.....
 
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« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2013, 04:37:42 PM »
Pretty interesting. Police Lt with 31 yrs service say's he's going home to protect his family. He didn't say who he was protecting them from. Now if this is happening in N.Carolina, to work I would thing it would have to happen every where at the same time. Word will get out aboput it and the rest of the country will be alerted, don't think government would want that. And why N. Carolina first, or maybe there's several states involved. Last I heard, N Carolina if full of good ole boy's. This has to be one of the things I have to see to believe! It would mean that the US Marshall's office support's it. I takeover, I doubt it. Then at some point it must assume that the military would have to be involved, Not sure most of the military would support this. I would hope that if our government is stupid enough to try this that they could well lose military support, law enforcement and not to mention all the weapons in civilian hands. I think there would be a lot of civilian's turn in their gun's but, no where near enough.

I'm skeptical also. As for the U.S. Marshalls Service? Snakes in the grass. You would be surprised how many military WOULD follow orders, and some L.E. officers, mostly up north, and some larger cities in the south..
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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2013, 05:00:49 PM »
What I'm finding talking to local LE, is that it's just like talking to your other neighbors.  About the same percentage favor gun control.  Here in my area, that's about 10% maybe. 
 
With no jobs available, and bills to pay, the LE would have a tough decision if ordered to confiscate guns.  If they refused they could lose jobs, if they accepted, they could lose their life, because many will not comply.
 
This could get very ugly very fast, and I'm not sure where the lines would be drawn, but you can bet at least some of the military and local law would follow orders.  I'm still of the opinion that most will follow the constitution instead.
 
My real concern lately is the so called "swat" teams and their armored vehicles and military training.
 
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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2013, 05:09:18 PM »
they have been practicing on the drug users for years


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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2013, 06:04:09 PM »
http://blog.wilsoncombat.com/paul-howe/2nd-amendment-and-the-kool-aid-drinkers-by-paul-howe/   I just read this and it makes a lot of since to me .  I think it would be a hard thing for them to pull off ... There are A LOT of gun owners in America .... Over 10 million were sold the week after the shooting and over a BILLION ROUNDS OF AMMO... I think if riled enough of the American gun owners would not stand for it . I also do not see a lot of officers doing this to their own people ... I get as pissed as anyone about the government , gun control , and ...well all the left wing BS .. But I have a hard time seeing them pull this off. Swamp Rooster

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« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2013, 03:22:59 AM »
What I'm finding talking to local LE, is that it's just like talking to your other neighbors.  About the same percentage favor gun control.    I'm still of the opinion that most will follow the constitution instead.
I'm in agreement with you.  and I can't see southern governors allowing obama to use NG.
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« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2013, 06:45:50 AM »
I may be mistaken but I believe the NG was used with the police to disarm the law abiding citizens in N orleans. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(


PM , they ran into some Navy personnel who were sent in to be first responders.  Although the media
never said anything about it. The Navy people actually stood in the way of a lot of this action
that was starting to go on . Naval officers told some guard units to stand down and await further orders they had no documentation showing where this was authorised.

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« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2013, 07:57:55 AM »
ANNA. Thanks, I didn't know the Navy was involved at all. Good for the Navy, I'm glad they tried to help but guns were still confiscated. Thanks to lawsuits by the NRA most got their guns back. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2013, 09:00:55 AM »
I only learned about it during my trip to New Orleans from some locals who had seen it happen .
It was mostly confined to the lake Pontchartrain area where the Navy personnel witnessed some
local LE harassing a black man for defending his home from looters with a shot gun.
Of course being first responders the sailors had orders to offer aid to the local LE but this turned out
to be something else. Navy Corpsmen were a valuable asset in the early hours of a post Katrina disaster. And they radioed back about this going on asking their commanders what to do.
Those commanders felt this was off mission but insisted that LE explain these actions because the
Navy had no information of anything like this being announced or authorized.

It snowballed from there and certain Navy officers saw this as another form of looting. After some reports that LE was actually involved in some of the looting that was going on .
All of which these Navy personnel also had orders to stop or prevent any such looting they came
across. They say this got pretty tense there for awhile especially when it was found out that the
guard also had been involved . Once mobilized any guard officer does not outrank a Navy officer
of a higher rank . So the guards involvement in this was very short lived.
You Navy guys here know that the Navy always seems to think outside the box anyway. And never
has been prone to taking any crap.

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« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2013, 09:37:19 AM »
Here's my opinion, and I have some background to strengthen it.  Police agencies, federal or state, are made of people who will do their jobs.  They will always do their jobs.  It's in their makeup to put down disorder. 
The huge difference between a police officer and a brick layer is that the brick layer is in it for the money, and that's all.  He might like to lay bricks, but he wouldn't do it for free.  A police officer puts himself in danger not for the money.  Sure, he gets paid, and he grumbles, but his reason for working is that he believes in his heart that he is part of the solution.  If a particular act is illegal, he strives to stop it, to suppress those breaking the law.  To bring them to what he sees as justice.  THAT is why he goes to work.
Maybe there are incidents where the police refused to do what they were sworn to do, but in such a major event as marshall law being declared, the blue meanies will be in your face to make certain you comply. 
I mean to dispute someone's statement above that a particular agency "are snakes in the grass."  Be thankful you don't have to do what they do, and be certain they will be your friends when those fighting marshal law attempt to disobey.  And they are just one agency.  The combined strength of all agencies would be against violators. 
I'm not saying we ought to blindly obey government restrictions and requirements, I'm just saying that we most certainly will.  We can play with what authority the locals and the feds have over us, who can do what to enforce what, but such thinking leads to disorder that can't stand.  The fallout from civil disorder always quickly descends into death and desperation for the people who start it or join it.  The fact that we could not survive the lack of goods and services is just a small item of importance when it comes to fighting the system.
Let's look at one little gov't act that we would detest.  Let's say the liberals finally get what they want, and a law is passed that all firearms are illegal to possess.  It is declared a felony.  We can use another scenario, but I like to think this one hits home a little harder.  Okay, you've got 30 days to turn in your guns.  After that, they come and get them using "whatever force neccessary," which is a phrase well known to any cop.  Lines outside the turn-in locations are long and full of hate and resentment.  But the law is the law. 
Okay, the 30 days has passed.  Now you are a felon if you have a gun.  You had your chance to comply, and you did not.  Now, if your caught, you go to prison.  Firstly, without boasting, who among you would have kept your guns?  Let's assume you were one.  At 4am Christmas morning, the feds use a battering ram or a flash-bang device to come in your home to get your 9mm.  Resistance is met with resistance.  However that scene plays out, you lose. 
What we can tell ourselves inside minds diseased by fantasy, is that forces of revolution would have already joined together, and their would be civil uprising strong enough to oppose the federal gov't, who has the might of the military.  We could oppose them with our illegal small arms.  Right. 
The other fantasy we might rely on is that the agencies would revolt against the new law, and there'd be no one to come after you.  My first remarks on this post should make us understand that will never happen.  I was a cop a long time.  I never backed away from enforcing a law I didn't like.  No officer I ever knew gave his credentials away so easily.  We here about corruption by police in big cities, and I know it's there, but it's limited to the point that it has and never will stop enforcement. 
I'm saying it will take more than marshall law or anyother kind of gov't mandate to bring us to arms against our own nation.  No, I don't ignore history when I say that.  But today's society is nothing like it was in those times.  And even with the combined strength of minds and arms, that issue was lost for the people who fought to keep it.  It can't be done that way.  Not that I have a better way.