Author Topic: Be prepared for a fight (Read 3477 times)

bubba · « **on:** January 05, 2013, 01:08:51 AM »

here is the new legislation being introduced in Albany

http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/s1422-2013

I hope it never passes, but in this state who knows. Time to move I guess

Mikey · « **Reply #1 on:** January 05, 2013, 03:02:12 AM »

All this in response to a shooting in connecticut where the murderous dweeb who committed the atrocity used handguns.

Has anyone bothered to tell that stupid a-ho that the kid used pistols, not assault rifles.

Is everyone in this damn state going to swallow this crap without so much as one letter to the governor. What the hell is wrong with the people in this state.

bobg · « **Reply #2 on:** January 05, 2013, 03:06:05 AM »

If i wasn't old and a cripple and 2 of my kids live within 15 miles of me i would have left the lousy state of NY a couple years go. Looks like we are in for an up hill battle.

ironglow · « **Reply #3 on:** January 06, 2013, 01:23:22 AM »

Quote from: bobg on January 05, 2013, 03:06:05 AM

If i wasn't old and a cripple and 2 of my kids live within 15 miles of me i would have left the lousy state of NY a couple years go. Looks like we are in for an up hill battle.

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I am about in the same position as Bob...we in NY have to endure despotism because of so many liberal/parasite/idiot voters.
One particular measure which is upsetting:
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265.04 Criminal possession of a weapon in the first degree.
A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the first
degree when such person:

(1) possesses any explosive substance with intent to use the same
unlawfully against the person or property of another; or
(2) possesses ten or more firearms; OR
(3) POSSESSES AN ASSAULT WEAPON; OR
(4) POSSESSES A LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE.
Criminal possession of a weapon in the first degree is a class B felo
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Look at # 2 ... If you or I have more than 10 firearms in 2014...you automatically become a felon.

...And how would they know how many guns you own...GUN REGISTRATION OF COURSE! And you can just bet there will be annual fees with the registration..a state already broke, can't afford to finance such a program.

Will we be secure in the privacy of our homes..likely not! What do you think?

Let's face it, NY liberals are following Washington's lead..crimping more and more of our hard-won rights..

THANKS... TO ALL WHO ELECTED THESE FREEDOM-ROBBING LIBERALS!

Mikey · « **Reply #4 on:** January 06, 2013, 02:35:28 AM »

This is only so if it passes, and is enforced, both of which are doubtful. These politicians need to know that if they push for something like this they are liable to wake up one morning with a price on their heads.........

ironglow · « **Reply #5 on:** January 06, 2013, 03:05:00 AM »

Quote from: Mikey on January 06, 2013, 02:35:28 AM

This is only so if it passes, and is enforced, both of which are doubtful. These politicians need to know that if they push for something like this they are liable to wake up one morning with a price on their heads.........

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I feel exactly as you do, but let's get it straight Mike..that's a political price.. I'm sure you don't want any 'brownshirts' at your door!

mspaci · « **Reply #6 on:** January 06, 2013, 04:51:13 AM »

Bubba, thanks for this, boys this is no joke, does someone have phone numbers & emails of our reps so we can contact them. Mike

BBF · « **Reply #7 on:** January 06, 2013, 05:42:56 AM »

Does anyone know for a fact what sort of firearm was used in CT. I keep reading different accounts.

bubba · « **Reply #8 on:** January 06, 2013, 06:41:42 AM »

I will be the first to say this will be less than likely to pass as is. However, it is a place to start negotiating. Any bill that passes will be a major infringement on our rights. Sit idle and do nothing or stand up for gun rights. The choice is up to you. Myself I wrote letters, made calls and talked to my state senator who is also a friend.

Mikey · « **Reply #9 on:** January 06, 2013, 12:59:22 PM »

Oh sure, it's a political price, of course. Shame on me for not specifying the obvious but let's see, a political price includes a loss of a good paying job and all the benefits that come from it, and if any criminal activity or subterfuge is involved the price would also include the sanity and sanctity of the family and home. This is not a 'win-win' proposition for them, it is a all or nothing winner take all or disappear proposition and this is what those politicains are afraid of, a real showdown.

I have e-mailed the White House as well as State Senator Hugh Farley, who I have personally supported in the past and who has benefitted from the support of hunters and gun owners during his career, and I have reminded him of this; let's see what happens now.

As for the brownshirts, or someone else wearing black duty uniforms, won't matter the color of the target. They will have to go door to door; they simply do not have the manpower for that, even with the local guard in reserve and they deeply fear armed resistance. They hope for the appearance of the order of law, whether legal or not, or without willing to follow it themselves. They will count on buy-backs and confiscation, and the concern that being caught with something you have owned for years but never abused the way they think you would could land you in jail. They do not count on forceful resistance, rather they hope it does not happen as it will simply take their world so far beyond their control that they will find themselves in the same kettle of fish they put the citizenry into. Would that saying about something fishy in Denmark then apply?

? And, of course, what would it do for Mr. Cuomo's presidential ambitions if his state becomes a hot-bed of insurgency and a battleground that he cannot control...... I think he has some serious thinkin' to get to......

It is bad enough that the tragedy in Conn happened, which was then made worse by copycat events and this gives commies and socialistas the edge they need to propose such draconian restrictions. But when you put a political future on the line, things change.....and I don't think Mr. Cuomo is willing to jeopardize his political future for the insanity of out of control politicians.....

DANNY-L · « **Reply #10 on:** January 06, 2013, 01:09:25 PM »

Ny trying to be a role model and tighten the noose on us some more. What are the states that are pretty much layed backed as far as gun laws are concerned doing? I think if coumo wants to run for president he should back off on messing with gun control but who knows.

Mikey · « **Reply #11 on:** January 07, 2013, 11:43:35 AM »

Danny: Utah is one example, so are a goodly number of the western states rather laid back on the gun control issue. As for cuomo's presidential aspirations - I think he would hope to piggy-back on hobama's party base of city dwellers and the east coast for a fairly free ride into the oval office but I seriously doubt there will be anothe democrat in the white house for some time. hosama's economy is gonna tank and it's going to hit those single issue voters who put him back in office, first. They won't make the same mistake twice, unless they are stupid, which they might be but were I the cuomo I would not depend on our nations love for that half american idiot to land my butt in dc..... I do not believe his draconian gun control concepts will survive the state senate and I do not believe he will have any sort of a free ride to dc. I think the country will be very tired of democratic party stupidity and vote the other way by the time he thinks about running.....

And, he ain't black, or half black or half white, or whatever, and might not get the black or hispanic vote. In fact, the dems might not get the hispanic vote if the hobama hombre can't relax the immigration laws enough to let them all in, or his economy tanks so badly that they stay home hoping for better jobs. And cuomo, for all the liberal mouth he is, may not get all that he wants from his state agendas and platforms. Don't forget that the nyc idiots who propose such stupid laws are the ones he is trying desparately to control, and if you have noticed, he doesn't seem to mind the Independent Democtraptic Coalition too awful much (and really hopes the GOP stays in power in the state senate) because it is a stop gap between the political stupidity of the state house and the amount of loss of support from his own party he would experience if they weren't there and he had to deny all their insane proposals personally. Imagine a democraptic governator without the support of the rabid nyc political crowd - ain't gonna happen...

rebAL · « **Reply #12 on:** January 09, 2013, 09:22:47 AM »

I read today that Cuomo was meeting with 3 men in a room attempting to bully them into accepting his speech before he even gave it. I didn.t have the stomach to listen to it.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #13 on:** January 09, 2013, 09:30:33 AM »

Quote from: bubba on January 05, 2013, 01:08:51 AM

here is the new legislation being introduced in Albany

http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/s1422-2013

I hope it never passes, but in this state who knows. Time to move I guess

Now NBC is reporting no rifle was use and instead od 2 handguns they recovered 4 . Something smells here .

DANNY-L · « **Reply #14 on:** January 09, 2013, 10:18:13 AM »

Won't be long and they'll say there was a second shooter,maybe from the grassy knoll. They lie so dang much that they don't even know the truth.

BUGEYE · « **Reply #15 on:** January 09, 2013, 11:16:14 AM »

Quote from: DANNY-L on January 09, 2013, 10:18:13 AM

Won't be long and they'll say there was a second shooter,maybe from the grassy knoll. They lie so dang much that they don't even know the truth.

LOL, this morning george stephanopoulos said the woman in Ga who shot the perp 5 times to protect herself and kids used a "36 caliber revolver" and his tone made even me afraid of 36 caliber revolvers.

DANNY-L · « **Reply #16 on:** January 10, 2013, 01:59:36 AM »

The only thing said by the media that ya know is truthful is the date.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #17 on:** January 10, 2013, 02:50:55 AM »

like politicans if their lips are moving they are lieing.

BBF · « **Reply #18 on:** January 10, 2013, 06:04:54 AM »

Technically George S. was close to the truth although he probably didn't know it considering that a 38 cal pistol shoots a .357 dia bullet. That is closer to 36 than 38 in the arithmetic I learned.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #19 on:** January 10, 2013, 06:10:44 AM »

One needs to look at how its determined top of lands or botton of grove it can be misleading . How about odd number rifling

BBF · « **Reply #20 on:** January 10, 2013, 06:17:49 AM »

That makes it the "fun" part. A 30 cal rifle shots a .308 bullet and a 270 Winnie/Wby shoots a .277 dia. bullet.
The Talking Heads will rarely get it right.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #21 on:** January 10, 2013, 06:19:42 AM »

then they throw in polygonal rifling

Mikey · « **Reply #22 on:** January 11, 2013, 04:36:32 AM »

Guys, it isn't just the talking heads, it's all the idiots including the governator. In his speech yesterday the sob came right out and said that you don't need 10 shots to kill a deer........ he wants the most comprehensive ban on everything you can get and I think it is high time we step on that greasy little crap.

We all know it isn't about duck hunting but this is all the anti-gunners need to pull in emotional support for banning something that wasn't even used in that Conn tragedy.

Everybody on this site has internet access, so let's use it. Let's all send messages to both cuomo and our state Senators and reps that we are tired of being denied, impuned and villified and for cuomo, if he has any national aspirations at all he will never see them if he tries to run rough-shod over us now. Let's put the net to use for us.

Chenango · « **Reply #23 on:** January 11, 2013, 07:54:30 AM »

I got my e-mails out to the gov. , my local representative and senator using the NRA write your rep app which was easy.
http://www.nraila.org/
Chenango

The Hermit · « **Reply #24 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:30:37 PM »

I sent emails too. The politicians met secretly over the weekend to hammer through a vote today. It is my understanding that magazine capacity will be limited to 7 rounds, large capacity magazines will NOT be grandfathered in, nor existing "assault" weapons.
Weapon registration will be ultimately be followed by confiscation. This will be timed to occur before the total economic collapse occurs.
NRA... too little...too late.... Most citizens are asleep anyway. Too sad..

The Hermit

bubba · « **Reply #25 on:** January 15, 2013, 12:19:01 AM »

It passed the senate. Now the assembly today. Not even getting 3 days to look it over. NY is sounding more like the fed govt every day.

rebAL · « **Reply #26 on:** January 15, 2013, 02:16:28 AM »

I believe this is what is meant by founding fathers as "GOVERNMENT TYRANY".

Rol Page · « **Reply #27 on:** January 15, 2013, 02:52:23 AM »

Anybody who thinks that we have a chance needs to rethink the whole situation..
I never believed Obama would be reelected with the economy in such poor shape, but the last election proved there are more takers than workers, and you can not beat "Santa Claus" aka. the president handing out "stimulus" money just before the election..when we are broke... to win votes.
In my humble opinion, the emphasis is not on the real problem, which is care and control of the mentally disturbed people who are potential threats.
After they get done with the gun issue will they go after kitchen knives, or fuel oil and fertilizer?
This country is the best in the world, but we are overtaken by liberals who will take away anything that they fear and give away anthing that does not belong to them.
GOD BLESS AMERICA... we need it.

ironglow · « **Reply #28 on:** January 15, 2013, 03:34:33 AM »

So does this new law''(may as well say it, the assembly is a "rubber stamp" for any leftist, socialist, Marxist governor)... Does this new law make our Ruger 10/22s and Marlin 60s illegal? Are the gun organizations going to take the tyrant to court?
....But I don't know if the high courts of NY have enough constitutional integrity to rebut the tyrant..

Mikey · « **Reply #29 on:** January 15, 2013, 03:59:16 AM »

Yes, anything that takes more than 7 rounds: your 10/22, your Marlin 60, your Ruger 22 lr target pistol or 22/45, your 7400 30-06 because of a detachable magazine, your 1911 because it can take a large capacity magazine, any 9mm or 7.62x25. Just about anything you have.

And you have one year to register or go to jail as a criminal. They know who you are because your purchases are in the state data base. Any magazines holding more than 7 rounds must be either surrendered, sold out of state or confiscated. Your sks is illegal under this law unless you register the rifle and get a permit for it.

Face it, we're screwed. We either register and become subject to police oversight (anybody remember nazi Germany and fascist Italy), which allows them to smash through our doors and take anything they see whether legal or not, and God forbid you have dogs that cops love to shoot in this state.

OK all you lousy scummy democrats and liberals - try and squirm your way out of this one. This is what you get for what you voted for and now you have dumped it on us and made us the criminal. My hope is that you get it worse than we do, but I doubt you will put up much of a fight becasue this is what you wanted. So how do you feel about what you got, you lousy fascists. Zeig Heil.