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Re: Be prepared for a fight
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2013, 04:04:53 AM »
I posted several of the provisions on the Second Amendment section.  Under the soon to be new laws  interpretation, even the Garand is an assault weapon.
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My quandary, I personally, don't think I have enough Handi's but, I know I have more Handi's than I really need or should have.

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Re: Be prepared for a fight
« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2013, 05:11:13 AM »
 
 

 subject to police oversight
 
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  Key word, "SUBJECT".  No longer are we citizens.  Next we have to decide what to do about it.

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Re: Be prepared for a fight
« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2013, 08:24:55 AM »
help me out guys, I have read the link Bubba put up( & thanks for that)  but cant find where it limited the clip to 7?  Did they add it on afterwords? Mike

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Re: Be prepared for a fight
« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2013, 10:47:09 AM »
Mike:  yes, the fascists added the 7 round limitation in the final hours of deliberation.  The bill was passed by the socialist senate at 10:00 pm Monday night. 
 
And it had to be a night.  Had this come to the light of day I hope that many of the socialists who helped this fascist governor strip us of our rights would have received word from their constituency to vote otherwise, but Imay be wrong about that.
 
The 7 round limitation applies to rifles, shotguns and pistols.  No Siaga shotguns or rifles that will accept standard Ak magazines, no more SKS rifles, Tokarev rifles, Ljungman rifles or any that take magazines or 10 round clips, and no pistols with capacities over 7 rounds. 
 
That foul greasy fascist fully intends to completely strip us of our rights and our means to defend ourselves from his jack boot thugs.   Surrender your firearms now or be put to the yoke.
 
rebal wants to know what to do about it next:  (1) we need to find a lawyer, or the NRA, to challenge this in court and enjoin the governor from enforcing it in the interim.  But, like his greasy father, he will go on about his business until the courts tell him to stop, so now I think about the best bet we have is to try and get the NRA involved.  cuomo said that provisions will be made and certain guns/mags grandfathered in but that will require registration and permitting, as with pistols - this means they do not yet have all the information they would like to have as to who owns what, but we won't be able to use any of what we have without his thugs being all over us.  It is also the step just befor confiscation, whichis also in the bill.  He needs no further legislative action to confiscate what is registered, all he has to do is sic his dogs on us as they will know what we have and where it is.  And please do not forget how your family will suffer during confiscation - your wife will get a butt-stroke across her mouth if she questions anything at all, your disabled child will be stepped on like a toad if he or she doesn't act quite fast enough and of course, your dogs will be shot.
 
At this point I don't know if I am ready for general insurrection or if I should wait for the NRA to try some legal action here.  I know they are already aware of what cuomo has done and it remains to be seen what, if anything, they will do.  If they won't do anything then I would say it is up to us to either fight this or lay down and die.  I have no intentions of dying for that greasy scum though, I want you to know; and if it comes to a fight, I say finish it - push him back to nyc, split the state into two new ones,  NY State and the city-state of ny, repeal any laws enforced on the State of NY by legislation initiated by nyc socialists, and regain our dignity. 
 
 

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Re: Be prepared for a fight
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2013, 12:48:32 PM »
So proud to live in the Dictatorship of New York. Those idiots finally thought of a way to ban a lot of weapons and not realy ban any, just the 10 round mag.

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Re: Be prepared for a fight
« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2013, 01:46:32 PM »
I found & read the entire law, we can own 10 rd clips, however you cant have more than 7 in at any time. Did anyone catch the part where our pistol permits now need to be renewed every 5 years. It also says you can own certain types of firearms that now need to be registered. All ammo gets a background check as well.  Glad I started reloading, only a matter of time until they get around to that as well. I am not handing over anything, w/o a fight.  Mike

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Re: Be prepared for a fight
« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2013, 05:45:20 PM »
The courts aren't gonna help you and by the time a lawsuit even got a hearing in court your time to act on selling, giving it all to them or fighting it will be too late for either.

Now is when NY decides to go the way of the Jews in Germany or like the founding fathers of this country did. Those who have said they'll have to pry them from their cold dead fingers will have to either put up or shut up.

The truly sad thing is if this goes to court and it likely will the ruling will not favor gun owners and then the rest of the country is gonna feel the full weight of the feds coming to take them all.

I've been posting it here for years that the day was near when the US would be worse than Soviet Russia and communist China. Folks that day is here for NY and not far behind for the rest of us.

The governments at several state levels and at the federal level are now totally illegal and doing totally unConstitutional things to us. It can't be turned around at the polls or in court, it's too late. Truthfully I think it's too late period. Who knows maybe after several generations of what is coming the will to be free again will bring about another revolution but I don't believe it will happen in this century.


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Re: Be prepared for a fight
« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2013, 05:53:12 PM »
sadly i agree sir.
we (as a nation) sat on our hands
too long and now we're screwed.
the apathy has spread like cancer
and now the fence sitters got what
they said would never happen.
it's a dirty shame, but it's real.
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Re: Be prepared for a fight
« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2013, 06:01:04 PM »
i can remember when i was much younger
trying to sign folks up at gun shows and
getting lectured about how "nobody's
taking my guns!" and what a time waster
i was for trying to sign folks up and i was
a @#%*&^% idiot for trying to sign folks
up to pay some washington lobbyist's salary.
got a good education on apathy back then.


what do we do down the road when the
govt. says we can't have any meat or bread
because "we're all too fat" or osama is charging
us a mileage tax and decides "well . . . that
guy there is driving too much. let's bring him in"?
the nay-sayers  always say the govt won't mess
with the little fish.
well. . . . just keep saying that.
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Re: Be prepared for a fight
« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2013, 02:17:35 AM »
I don't live in New York but their new law is most offensive to me as I live in Va. . You see New York and New York City in particular has claimed Va. has exported illegal guns to their state and city for years. They even sent people to Va. to make straw buys (they were found to be illegal in their actions). Now they have out lawed certian weapons and magazines which if the citizens allow is none of my business on the state level. BUT when in their law they give their citizens one year to sell what they feel is bad to people in other states is about as two faced as it gets. It is like trapping a skunk in my front yard and letting it go in your's. You see if they really belived those weapons and magazines posed a threat they would not allow transfeer out of their state. It also shows the stupid part as in many cases criminals will only buy them and bring them back into New York.
 What is most likely the reason for this sillyness is New York does not want to have to buy the now illegal guns and mags. from the subjects (citizens) .
 Citizens of New York should be asking if the need for gun control is so pressing why give gun owners a whole year to comlpy . Geeze how many more mass murders will happen in that year ? Will their state govt. not now be responsible for those murders since they IDed the cause but allowed it to continue for at least another year ?
 Can other states take New York to federal court for forcing their problems on them by suggesting that the subjects of New York sell the now illegal guns and magazines across state lines  ?
 This entire mess reeks of agenda !
 
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Re: Be prepared for a fight
« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2013, 06:42:31 AM »
Cumo is just like his father anti gun and he is also trying to make a name for him self for the 2016 election.  Please remember him in 2016  and give him what he deserves. I think he could be even worse. than Obama

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Re: Be prepared for a fight
« Reply #41 on: January 17, 2013, 10:15:38 AM »
Tom:  actually, cuomo is worse than his father was and I firmly believe, contrary to Greybeard's feelings, that the lawsuits are going to start flying fast and furious (to use a poor phrase, actually).  But cuomo's actions are far to agregious in this regard to prevent the type of backlash that will really rock things more than anyone expected.  I also think this dooms his chance for the white house in 16, not because of his progressively liberal actions which the dems favor so much but because ther are far too many out there who will have had enough of obama by 16 and won't want someone worse cramming more lib bs down their throats.  imo.

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Re: Be prepared for a fight
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2013, 04:22:28 AM »
Sad to say polls seem to favor his actions.  We are doomed thanks to dumbded down populace and willing media.

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Re: Be prepared for a fight
« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2013, 04:39:36 AM »
Mikey  He is worse than his father but I meant he has an anti gun agenda as Mario did, but Mario did not have as much power in the two houses.  I hope the Petition and class action suit do take off.
Rabal   Every poll I voted in showed that we had 95 % to the gun grabs 3 or 4% I could never find them again to see how it was going. Cumu  and other politicians claim that most people want the new laws. but then they say what they feel will do them the most good. Evey politician I called before it was voted on, claimed they were being over run with call  from people against the new law and Como's was so busy that I sent email and letter but could not get anyone on the phone.
All the people I contacted also assured me that they would not vote for any thing that cut any of my Constitutional rights. Like I said politicians lie, a lot!!!

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Re: Be prepared for a fight
« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2013, 04:57:08 AM »
I found & read the entire law, we can own 10 rd clips, however you cant have more than 7 in at any time. Did anyone catch the part where our pistol permits now need to be renewed every 5 years. It also says you can own certain types of firearms that now need to be registered. All ammo gets a background check as well.  Glad I started reloading, only a matter of time until they get around to that as well. I am not handing over anything, w/o a fight.  Mike
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   As I posted elsewhere on GBO.."Stupid is as stupid does"..  Those idiot legislators say we can have a 10 round clip, but never load more than 7 rounds in them...  I bet that made a bunch of potential school shooters, sit up and take notice !!  Sure enough!  If they load the full 10 before shooting kids, they may be subject for an additional 2-3 years in jail...DUH
       So anyone who voted for that lamebrained idea is guilty of either one flaw or another;
   1) He/she is so stupid they actually think a deranged idiot would be concerned with a 7 round limit.
                     or...
    2) They are voting in favor of a freedom robbing law to impress the emotionally unstable an buy future votes.
 
  Take your choice..they have to be one or the other...or both.
 
  BTW:  Do you suppose that 5 year renewal on a handgun permit will call for a new fee each time?
    No..Cuomo wouldn't do that...would he? ;) ;D ;D
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Re: Be prepared for a fight
« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2013, 05:52:43 AM »
Who saw where ya could vote,I sure to heck didn't. They probably just came up with a number as they did this past election.

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Re: Be prepared for a fight
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2013, 02:02:40 AM »
http://www.governor.ny.gov/2013/gun-reforms-faq




this is a link to the govt to TRY to clarify the new laws.  I hope it helps. 
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Re: Be prepared for a fight
« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2013, 02:45:36 AM »
Thanks Bubba

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Re: Be prepared for a fight
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2013, 05:26:39 AM »




Ok if you think the latest govnmt gun control is not going to effect you... It is just the beginning.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/18/terrorism-center-at-west-point-warns-against-danger-of-american-limited-government-activists-and-far-right/