Glock 21 W/ LW 2 port Bbl. ??

[WayneS]

 Has anyone replaced the OME g-21 bbl. with the Lone Wolfe 2 port Bbl. and shooting cast bullets ?
Just wondering if you notice any strange discharges from the ports ? How the G-21 reacts with this bbl vs the OME Bbl.
Ect., ect., ect

[Savage]

Generally, ported/compensated  barrels are very inefficient in a low pressure cartridge like the .45. Using lead bullets with barrel ports is a really bad idea unless you enjoy spending time cleaning out the lead.
Now if you want the "Wow" factor of a ported barrel, and want it to do some good as well, get a ported 10mm conversion barrel, and shoot jacketed bullets thru it. At 10mm pressures, you'll be amazed at how well they work.
Savage

[WayneS]

SAVAGE,
THANK YOU, thinking about it, I'll probably just get 1000 Berry J bullets, about the same $$ as a Lone Wolfe standard bbl.

[Savage]

Chamber check your reloads before you load up a large lot. I have a couple of LW barrels with short leades. I have to load short OAL to prevent chambering problems with those. Other than that, great barrels!
Savage

[WayneS]

Savage,
my intent is to load about 500 rounds just to have & hold in case I needed some in a hurry.  My choices are;
1. get the LW BBl.  and cast some  or
2. stay with the ome bbl and buy 500 or 1000 Berry plated bullets.
I don't compete with it,  only shooting about 50 every other month at our pistol silhouette match's.
we hold side match's where the weapons are limited to  6" bbl's fixed sights, just standard pistols.

[Savage]

The $100 cost of the barrel will buy about 1000 of the Berry's bullets. Might be something to consider based on your needs.
Savage

[willsch]

Wayne S, I'm new to this forum, don't know any of you guys yet, and may be a little late on jumping into this discussion. BUT...I just recently bought a new G21sf, and a LW two-ported barrel, and put in a 24# recoil spring. This is intended to be my back-up woods gun, while deer hunting; and i want the option of shooting .45Super. I believe in heavy, cast bullets at modest velocities, and believe a 255g.swc (wide meplat) doing about 975-1050fps will do all i need (like penetrate a black bear end to end). So far, i've only shot about 100 rounds through this rig, with 6 different loads, using only standard brass (i'm still waiting on my Starline Super brass order). I am totally pleased with everything so far--100% functionality. Lightest load (K.E./pressure-wise) was 200g.swc/14g.H2400 for 1005+-10fps; heaviest was 195g.swc/10.1g.AA5 for 1115+-2. A Lee 255 wfp/7.2g.Unique=945+-6fps; this was my original goal. The "light" load put 3 shots into 3" at 50 yards, sandbagged. I'm sure this is a lucky fluke, because of my 74 year-old eyes, and shackey hands, but i believe there is some real accuracy potential here. BTW, Blazer factory 230g. ball (fmj) did 833fps and dropped the cases 2' away (everything else went 4-6'). I still have a whole lot of fun experimenting to do--especially when the Super brass gets here. But, i thought this interim report may hold some interest for you. Sincerely, willsch
ps. i like to report velocities as the median, plus 1/2 of the range.

[Keith1]

Will,
You are shooting loads like that and only changed the barrel and recoil spring? Those are already 45 super loads I think.

About a month ago I bought some Buffalo Bore 45 ACP 255 cast ammo.This is supposed to develope 960 FPS from a 5 inch Colt barrel. I have been shooting a little bit of this ammo in my 2 1911s with varying results. Haven't tried it in my G 21 because frankly I'm afraid to as the Glock is completely standard as it came from the factory.

Regards, Keith

[willsch]

Keith 1,
I certainly don't want to go any "hotter" with my standard brass (which showed absolutely no signs of trouble--if one can believe brass). But, based on a careful examination of all the loading data i have available, i'm pretty sure that my loads so far, are not above 23K psi, putting them in the +P category. I obviously don't have pressure testing equipment, so my conclusions are base on my own velocity measurements, out of my own (5.5") barrel. Tomorrow, when i have more time, i'll dig out some info that John Linebaugh sent me 20 years ago, re.warm acp loads. More later. will

[Keith1]

Will,
If you go to Google and put Glock + 45 Super there is lots on interesting reading.
Regards, Keith

[willsch]

Thanks Keith, Been there, done that. I agree that there's lots of interesting reading; but for the purpose of reloading, i've got all the "recipes i'll ever have time to try out! BTW, the BuffBore load you mentioned: i'm pretty sure that too is a +P load. Just for interest, here's a couple of quotes from a '94 letter from Linebaugh: "I've shot 14gr 2400 ACP cases in 5" 1917 for 1180fps w/260Keith this is MAX" ..."the old Speer #8 manual lists 15gr #2400--240gr cast Keith for 1150fps in 6 1,2" S&W."..."the first sign of pressure will be getting the cases back on the shell holder--you will bulge the case in the extractor groove area."..."A 260 Keith @ 1100fps w/2400 or say 15?-16?-17?gr H-110 should do all it is asked to do."...etc. Now, *keep in mind*, he's talking about shooting these in a revolver, albeit an old (5") 1917. And my interest in these data is only that they show what the acp case will do---while i'm waiting for my Super brass. More later. will   

[willsch]

Still waiting for Starline Super brass, which is supposed to ship this Mon! But meanwhile i'm having a ball, and quite satisfied, with results, so far, with standard brass and +p loads (<23k psi). Quite frankly, i won't be needing a whole lot more horsepower--at least not until i do a whole lot more practicing with stout recoil. Added two mods, unrelated to the Super conversion: 1) a 3.5# connector, which gives me a sweet 4 3/4# trigger pull; and 2) an adjustable factory rear sight, which is probably good value for the money; but the jury's still out, as it's a little finicky (repeatable?) on adjustments. Oh, and i bought a saf-t-block, which i think is going to give me additional peace of mind when carrying in the field. This has been a fun project, and i'm so happy with my G21sf. And just can't wait for the next level of experimentation. More later.