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Offline ironglow

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.44 mag question
« on: January 12, 2013, 11:56:21 AM »
  I bought a new CVA .44 mag rifle this year.  Fired some new Hornady rounds through it..both XTP and FTX..  The rounds worked fine..but reloading is a pain.  I'm using my old RCBS jr press and RCBS dies but I'm having a devil of a time seating primers...
       They don't seem to seat right, sometimes turning, crushing and burring up some brass.  On the other hand, I have some new Winchester brass which works fine..   WHAT GIVES?
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Re: .44 mag question
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2013, 08:29:48 PM »
Spend a few bucks and get a Lee ram prime for your press.  I use one (actually 2) on the same press and it works great.  It gives a better feel for seating the primers and they're less likely to flip in the process.

I use 2 because they're cheap enough to have one for large and another for small primers.  I could swap the seater cup and punch but I don't want to...

I'd love to hear more about your rifle and how well it shoots. Please post about in the CVA forum here.

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Re: .44 mag question
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2013, 06:44:38 AM »
will that coexist on my RCBS press?
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Re: .44 mag question
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2013, 07:50:25 AM »
Quote from: ironglow on January 13, 2013, 06:44:38 AM
will that coexist on my RCBS press?

It does on mine.  It screws in like a die set on top and then the other part slips in to the ram like a shell holder.  It's one of those cheap things that I don't know how I did without before I got one...

The first one I got came with a Lee hand press I bought when I was in college and didn't have a place to bolt down my RCBS press.  The second one came later when I decided the small cost of one more was less than the trouble switching it from small to large primers.  I keep the pair in one small Lee die box. 

BTW, Lee has a bunch of inexpensive reloading gadgets that are worth the money and a few that aren't.

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Re: .44 mag question
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2013, 08:58:07 AM »
I too, am a ram prime fan. I've tried priming on the press (stock priming arm), handheld primers, and ram primers. I get excellent feel, and my thumbs don't get cramps. I have a C-H "C" style press with a ram prime tool permanently installed and just pull out the seating stem and swap it for different size primers. I haven't tried the RCBS style bench mounted priming tool, mainly 'cause I've found what's easy and works well for me.
 
Mebbe you could try champhering the primer pocket to allow a straight start for the primers...
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Re: .44 mag question
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2013, 09:44:31 AM »
Where I am puzzled is how the once fired Hornady shells give me fits, while other shells (some used) load fine ..esp the new WInchesters.
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Re: .44 mag question
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2013, 10:25:18 AM »
Try hitting the primer pockets with a Lee deburring tool.  It's possible these cases have less chamfer on them and the primers are hanging up.

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Re: .44 mag question
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2013, 05:53:58 PM »
I will have to try that GB, I used the usual pocket cleaner..but I have wondered if Hornady uses a strange crimp on their primers..
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Re: .44 mag question
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2013, 03:55:53 AM »
IG, could be that run of brass has a smaller than normal pocket. Might have to use a flash hole uniformer. Pain in the butt, but at least you can use the brass. I use to do all my silhouette brass with one. Only good thing is, once you have them done, you don't have to do them again. gypsyman
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Re: .44 mag question
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2013, 08:59:45 AM »
Quote from: gypsyman on January 16, 2013, 03:55:53 AM
IG, could be that run of brass has a smaller than normal pocket. Might have to use a flash hole uniformer. Pain in the butt, but at least you can use the brass. I use to do all my silhouette brass with one. Only good thing is, once you have them done, you don't have to do them again. gypsyman
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   I may have to look into that, but I only bought 40 rounds of Hornady..(about half either loaded or ruined)  I have about 70 WW shells so I'll reload most ammo now...and keep reloading with proper material.
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Re: .44 mag question
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2013, 09:25:48 AM »
try cleaning the pockets with a wire brush RCBS maks them or get a case prep from RCBS  station it has them. I also like and suggest using a RCBS hand primer , I find it better to get a consistant seat as you can feel it bottom out. I would bet your primers are a tad big for the cases . I find that often one primer is harder to seat while another brand feels like it falls in. 
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Re: .44 mag question
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2013, 02:05:58 PM »
I bought 200 Starline cases when I got my .44 and I think those will last me a while.  I was given some Remington and Winchester brass and it seems to load OK.

I think Hornady cases are made by Privi but I've never had any problems with their brass like you describe.  The only time I did was with some US military '06 cases that I reformed to 7.7x58mm for my Arisaka rifles.

The Lee chamfer tool really helped and it's too cheap not to have for as much as I use it.

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