Retired Gen. Stanley McChrystal Gun Control Requires 'Serious Action'

[scootrd]

Retired Gen. Stanley McChrystal came out in favor of gun control restrictions on a Tuesday morning appearance on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."
"I spent a career carrying typically either a M16, and later a M4 carbine," he said. "And a M4 carbine fires a .223 caliber round, which is 5.56 millimeters, at about 3,000 feet per second. When it hits a human body, the effects are devastating. It's designed to do that. That's what our soldiers ought to carry."
 "I personally don't think there's any need for that kind of weaponry on the streets and particularly around the schools in America. I believe that we've got to take a serious look . I understand everybody's desire to have whatever they want but we have to protect our children and our police and we have to protect our population. And I think we have to take a very mature look at that."

"I think serious action is necessary. Sometimes we talk about very limited actions on the edges, and I just don't think that's enough, I think we have to look at the situation in America. The number of people killed by firearms is extraordinary compared to other nations. I don't think we're a bloodthirsty culture, and we need to look at everything we can do to safeguard our people."

[CB lastmanout]

Ain't it great. His leadership did not bring victory in Afghanistan, he HAD to resign from service, now the new media trots the disgraced ex-general (collecting a government pension) telling us how to be better American citizens. Many sheeple will use his view as Gospel. Excellent play by the socialists. 

[SHOOTALL]

He wants some kind of draft, or universal mil service of some kind, too.
.
.
..TM7

so would the service be free ? how did he say we would pay for such ? come to think about it if every American citizen was furnished with a 24/7 armed guard maybe gun control would make sense . Naw who would watch the guards and that too would cost to much. better to allow guns and each citizen decide how best to defend themselves and with what according to their ablity to fund it.

[Mikey]

lastmanout:  you're right, ther eis a reason guys like that get 'retired' from the service.....

[two-blocked]

Funny, just over a week ago Stan was the poster child for the last true conservative patriots on this site! 
 
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,272006.0.html

[ironglow]

Retired Gen. Stanley McChrystal came out in favor of gun control restrictions on a Tuesday morning appearance on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."
"I spent a career carrying typically either a M16, and later a M4 carbine," he said. "And a M4 carbine fires a .223 caliber round, which is 5.56 millimeters, at about 3,000 feet per second. When it hits a human body, the effects are devastating. It's designed to do that. That's what our soldiers ought to carry."
 "I personally don't think there's any need for that kind of weaponry on the streets and particularly around the schools in America. I believe that we've got to take a serious look . I understand everybody's desire to have whatever they want but we have to protect our children and our police and we have to protect our population. And I think we have to take a very mature look at that."

"I think serious action is necessary. Sometimes we talk about very limited actions on the edges, and I just don't think that's enough, I think we have to look at the situation in America. The number of people killed by firearms is extraordinary compared to other nations. I don't think we're a bloodthirsty culture, and we need to look at everything we can do to safeguard our people."

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
 
   Your posting that here makes you look like you're rooting for even more gun control"...are you?

[jimster]

"When it hits a human body, the effects are devastating. It's designed to do that. That's what our soldiers ought to carry."

I wonder if it's possible that the general never had any experience with any other caliber? There must be hundreds of calibers and bullet combos that will "devastate" a human body. Who knows, maybe he never shot anything else and didn't know any better than to pick just one caliber out and make a comment. Didn't sound too bright to me. I guess using this analogy...my 30-30 will suspect, not to mention the bigger bores and higher pressure rounds that I own. Gee, just think what a 22-250 will do....
We are going to hear lots of stupid comments by lots of famous people...stay tuned...lots more coming. And there will be and endless supply of people willing to push all the dumb comments around the internet for pot stirring competitions.

[ironglow]

"When it hits a human body, the effects are devastating. It's designed to do that. That's what our soldiers ought to carry."

I wonder if it's possible that the general never had any experience with any other caliber? There must be hundreds of calibers and bullet combos that will "devastate" a human body. Who knows, maybe he never shot anything else and didn't know any better than to pick just one caliber out and make a comment. Didn't sound too bright to me. I guess using this analogy...my 30-30 will suspect, not to mention the bigger bores and higher pressure rounds that I own. Gee, just think what a 22-250 will do....
We are going to hear lots of stupid comments by lots of famous people...stay tuned...lots more coming. And there will be and endless supply of people willing to push all the dumb comments around the internet for pot stirring competitions.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
 
  He's a general, he's grown accustomed to dictating..

[BUGEYE]

At one time bullets did tumble, but that was un-ententional.  the Army fixed that and now it's in and out like any FMJ bullet.  I guess McChrystal carried that same old slow-twist m-16 with that same old original issue ammo.  that shows that he didn't shoot his and therefore doesn't know what he talking about.

[yellowtail3]

At one time bullets did tumble, but that was un-ententional.  the Army fixed that and now it's in and out like any FMJ bullet.  I guess McChrystal carried that same old slow-twist m-16 with that same old original issue ammo.  that shows that he didn't shoot his and therefore doesn't know what he talking about.

Maybe he's been around long enough his AR had a longer barrel with just enough velocity? That bullet will tumble when it hits.

[mechanic]

I guess he would be opposed to the 50 bmg in civilian hands?  How about a 12 ga. slug.  If he thinks the 5.56 is bad, I sure don't want to show him a real  thumper.
 
They only trot these generals out when they agree with the cause the media is promoting.
 
Ben

[ironglow]

Mechanic says;
   " They only trot these generals out when they agree with the cause the media is promoting."
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
 
  Truer words have never been spoken..and both major parties are guilty..  Soon Obammy will be parading out children in his vendetta..er efforts to destroy the  2nd amendment..treating them like little abused dogs & cats... a cheap PETA style trick.

[SHOOTALL]

maybe the old general is like the sargent in the movie when ask if the 7.62 was like a 308 he replied he didn't know about them civilian calabers ..................

[BBF]

He wants some kind of draft, or universal mil service of some kind, too.
.
.
..TM7

That might not be a bad idea.

[BUGEYE]

Mechanic says;
   " They only trot these generals out when they agree with the cause the media is promoting."
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
 
  Truer words have never been spoken..and both major parties are guilty..  Soon Obammy will be parading out children in his vendetta..er efforts to destroy the  2nd amendment..treating them like little abused dogs & cats... a cheap PETA style trick.

I watched his speech.  and I do believe that those kids were coached by mom or dad. my daughter wasn't interested in the news at that age.
plus he spent another $500 million at one stroke.

[BBF]

$500 Million are less than peanuts for him.........................as long as any of it doesn't come from his stash.

[arrington]

He's just pimping for his next gig. He wants to be a paid "expert" commentator.

[ironglow]

For those who haven't served...   
   Once an field grade officer becomes a bird colonel, he often goes "political"..McChrystal likely notwithstanding.  Many have their eye on a future career..often in politics, so they have to start "polishing apples" of their chosen variety.  Presidents will often reach to a colonel of convictions similar to their own and promote them rapidly..just to get their will done right down in the ranks!

[BUGEYE]

For those who haven't served...   
   Once an field grade officer becomes a bird colonel, he often goes "political"..McChrystal likely notwithstanding.  Many have their eye on a future career..often in politics, so they have to start "polishing apples" of their chosen variety.  Presidents will often reach to a colonel of convictions similar to their own and promote them rapidly..just to get their will done right down in the ranks!

I hadn't thought of that, but it's probably the truth.