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My guns are stolen
« on: January 14, 2013, 11:02:17 AM »
Someone jackbooted my front door yesterday in broad daylight, and got away with a good armload of guns, and about two pockets full of the wife's jewelry.  I am currently at home trying to "harden" the entrances, etc.
 
Just to remind everyone, be sure to make photos and record serial #'s......somewhere other than your computer as they may take that too.  Luckily I have all my firearms recorded, but none of the wife's jewelry was, so I don't know if the insurance will pay or not.
 
I've got to investigate some game cameras.....do the infared show a visible light when recording?
 
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Re: My guns are stolen
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2013, 11:09:07 AM »
Sorry to hear that Ben.  :(

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Re: My guns are stolen
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2013, 11:21:15 AM »
sorry to hear. . . :(


someone knew what you had
and when you were gone sounds like >:(
18 MINUTES.  . . . . . .

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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2013, 11:22:15 AM »
and keep several different lists
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Re: My guns are stolen
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2013, 11:38:05 AM »
I really sorry to hear that.  The crooks did that to my friend many years ago >:(   That can make your blood boil.  It has left mental scars.  They kicked the front door in and the back door was unlocked :o   I hope you can be made whole financially.


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Re: My guns are stolen
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2013, 11:48:08 AM »
That stinks. I know here in PA the max they will reimburse for on your hoeowners for guns is 1500 unless you buy extra insurance. hopefully they were only handis they got and no real money guns. Not saying the handis are bad just can be replaced a bunch more with the 1500. Hope they catch them and you get them back

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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2013, 11:55:10 AM »
OUCH !
Worst thing is it could be somebody local who knows your comin's an goin's; hope ya kechem and ya got an anthill warmed up..........
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Re: My guns are stolen
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2013, 12:04:17 PM »
Hate to hear that.  Very violated feeling. 

To answer your question about the game cameras, there are essentially three types, the old white flash that works like a regular camera, the red infrared that has glowing red leds, and the blackout type that show no visible light.

These are taken from Cabelas catalog
Glow type  Another Glow type

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Re: My guns are stolen
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2013, 12:12:10 PM »
OMG Ben, That stinks!

Good on the SN and excellent advice, many folks fix that fence AFTER the cows get out...

YES, on the trail cameras, there are a couple brands that have no light and are near invisable. 

Something else to think on is a home alarm system. I invested in a real good one some years back, its peace of mind AS WELL AS a rebate on home owners ins... That's not so hard to take.

Hit the gun shops and pawn shops and observe. ;)

VERY SORRY and I know full well the feelings that follow, at least everyone is fine, let the cops do there jobs hopefully they will find the lo lifes..

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Re: My guns are stolen
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2013, 12:16:09 PM »
Thanks Bucmeister...just what I needed to know.
 
The cops said since there were more guns....(he referred to it as an arsenal), they would probably be back.  I watched all night ready to meet and greet.....
 
I've got to deal with some glass door issues which would allow them to unlock the deadbolts..even though this one just busted the entire door frame out.
 
Cop said he was apparently a big guy, so be careful.  I mentioned a double tap from a 357...
 
Truth is, I think it was someone aquainted with us.  They came in after we went to church, went into the front bedroom for jewelry and the back for guns.  The guns were in the back of a closet behind clothing.  Some are in the safe and still secure.  The neighbors were home on both sides, and both remembered hearing what they thought was a door slamming loudly just after noon.
 
They got all my rimfires, my Stoeger double, and my NAA derringer.  They passed up a gun case with a Savage Fox with deluxe stock and engraving....
 
Ins. adjuster comes tomorrow, I will know more then.  I have enough coverage, just don't know about the wife's jewlery since it isn't documented.
 
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Re: My guns are stolen
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2013, 12:26:42 PM »
You make a great point about documenting.  I have said many times I was going to get the digital camera out to take pictures of most everything in the house for insurance and theft reasons.  We have a replacement cost clause on our homeowners to eliminate the depreciation issues since I tend to take care of stuff and repair rather than replace therefore have a lot of stuff that is old enough to not be covered without the replacement rider.  Need to get a usb drive in a safe deposit box and maybe on an on line backup site with photos serial numbers etc.  Plus with guns and jewelry there is always the need to buy the additional coverage because of typical home owner's insurance. 

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Re: My guns are stolen
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2013, 12:27:57 PM »
I had a similar experience a few years back, so I kinda know how you're feeling. 

Most likely know this, but your basic insurance policies have a pretty low limit for guns and jewelry.

I did have a security system installed a week after our burglary.

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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2013, 12:31:18 PM »
Real sorry to hear that - hope they're brought to justice.

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Re: My guns are stolen
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2013, 12:36:52 PM »
Was the place completely trashed or did they just hit those specific areas? If they went straight to them without tearing the place up it's most likely someone who knows you, your home, your habits, etc, etc... Think about how many people actually know where you keep the guns and the jewels. Have you showed anyone your "hiding spots"?? Has anyone been in the same room where the guns are?? Has your wife showed anyone her jewels?? Has anyone asked you if the guns were for sale?? Look close and then look closer. Hate to say it but odds are it's a friend or aquaintance.
I hope you find the jerk that took your stuff and shove a foot in his... well you know. ;)
 
Also take the serial numbers and any pictures of the guns to all the local gun stores, pawn shops, etc. Let the shop owners know the guns are stolen and the police are investigating. Make darn sure every single gun that was taken is reported to the cops. If you don't have a serial number give the most accurate description of the gun you can... anything that will help identify it as yours... any marks, dings, dents, scratches, etc, etc... Every little detail will help in the search to recover them.
 
 
 
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2013, 12:39:17 PM »
Believe me I know the feeling, and it happened to me several years back and is one of the reasons I now have my concealed carry permit..
Same senerio, it happened in broad daylight right before the holidays.  My wife doesn't work and I baby sit my daughters two girls during their school break, and I had been hunting that morning out at the ranch.   I had returned home late morning and put away my deer rifle, and my wife and the girls were headed out the door to do some last minute shopping.   It was close to noon and I drove out to the hardware store to pick up some supplies, I was only gone no more than twenty minutes.
As I came around the corner I noticed an old faded red and rusty looking late sixties model suburban parked in front of my house, with a small young woman behind the wheel, and a small child in the back seat jumping up and down on the back seat.  As I pulled into my drive I noticed half of my front door was missing, and then a young heavy set guy came out of the front door and we looked at each other face to face, and he has this defiant grin on his face I'll never forget... He jumped into the passenger side, and the woman threw the truck into reverse and backed all the way down the block as I stood and watched trying to remember details and descriptions, and taking down the license number...I had the urge to follow but my mind was swimming about now, and I rushed inside to see the damage fearing what I would find...
The good news was all my guns were locked away, but the bad news was he got my wifes jewelery, a class ring and an heirloom ring left by her aunt that was priceless..  Also a computer that was on the blink, and an old portable tv that I was getting ready to replace anyway, plus the fact that I now had to deal with the police report and calm my nerves that nobody was hurt and the fact that my wife and my grand kids were not there, and then go back to the hardware store and buy a new door and hardware.
The rage you feel is something that is hard to describe and thinking back I can't say I would have fired a shot at the vehicle getting away had I had a rifle, or set out to chase them down with a small inocent child in the car..   I now feel I did the right thing, and I came out ahead financially except for the lose of the two rings that I can never replace.
The license tag was bogus and the truck never spotted, or couple was ever caught.  It was nerve wracking for weeks after as I drove all around town looking for that red suburban...
Theives are bold these days and I try to stay vigilant and notice strange people in my neighborhood.    Since then I've retired I make daily rounds through the neighborhood on my bike for exercise and have actually run off several suspicious looking people slowing driving through the neighborhood and when they noticed I was following them and watching they sped away in the opposite direction.
Yard people that do tree trimming and people driving around looking for a smash and grab opportunity are usually the ones.    Also neighbors, but if you get out and figure out who is who and where they live even a thief won't feel comfortable stealing from a neighbor if he's being watched..
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Re: My guns are stolen
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2013, 12:43:11 PM »
Sorry to hear of your misfutune. I keep a log and pictures of all my guns on Dropbox, an online storage site. If by chance anything did happen I can access my info from any computer. I have yet to hear of any security issues with Dropbox so I feel pretty confident with it.

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Re: My guns are stolen
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2013, 12:44:16 PM »
We've had a rash of these around here the last year or so, and I live just a couple blocks from the college...they've had 7 armed robberies on campus there.
 
I don't know if it's one guy or many, but it's time to bring this to a halt.  I'm exploring options.
 
Cops told me not to shoot anyone.  I told them if he's in the yard...he's yours..if he's in the house send the coroner.
 
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Re: My guns are stolen
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2013, 12:53:16 PM »
There was a group of thieves locally whose M.O was to go to area churches and steal a van from the parking lot as soon as the service started... they would get the address from the insurance papers, throw out the rear van seats, drive to the house, use the gargage door opener( usually in the van) to access the house and then spend the next two hours (because they knew exactly how long they had) stripping the house and filling the van... they would then drive to a town 2-4 hours away and hock the merchandise... they were eventually caught by an undercover sting, but they caused alot of property loss...
It is a very violating feeling... I hope that the insurance company covers your loss in full.
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Re: My guns are stolen
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2013, 12:55:28 PM »
Very sorry to hear this happened to you.
 
From the details it sounds like the individuals involved have been targeting your gun and jewellery collection, probably for some time. I think if the police are succesfull in finding them it will turn out to be a connection to someone you know, likely a neighbour or someone else who can easily watch your residence to know when you leave.
 
Investing in a good monitored alarm system with a few of your own security camera's may deter them from coming back or show you who is responsible if they try again, which chances are they will. In most cases the theives will wait anywhere from a few weeks to about 1 month to allow you time to purchase replacement items with the insurance settlement money and then try and steal those brand new items aswell. I would be on alert as chances are they will try again based on what they got.

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Re: My guns are stolen
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2013, 01:01:09 PM »
if he's in the house send the coroner.
 
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« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2013, 01:14:28 PM »
geeze Ben!  I guess that makes us all stop and think!  Sorry pal...  :(
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« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2013, 01:19:35 PM »
Sorry to hear this. Just another good reminder to the rest of us to make documents of #s and such, and also to look at ways to try and harden our homes a little.
 
I hope the police catch these scumbags before they return and you have to deal with them face to face.
 
Good luck with the recovery.
 
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« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2013, 02:41:59 PM »
I hate thieves.  >:(
 
Sorry to hear this happened to a good guy. I hope they catch them and you recover your stuff.
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« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2013, 02:42:30 PM »
Ben,
 Very sorry to hear about the break in . Perhaps they will catch them.A friend of mine keeps an old Damascus barreled shot gun out in plain sight loaded with high brass mag loads with JB weld in front of the shell. He figures it will be the last time the rotten S#B will ever pull a trigger on a stolen gun. :o
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Trip wires and boards with nails exposed work well too but the law does not see kindly to them.
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« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2013, 03:29:51 PM »
I hate to hear that same happened to me a couple years back. But they not only took my guns but the tools that were my livelihood. I hope u get the guys that done it only thing I had left was my carry weapon after that. I feel your pain!!

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« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2013, 03:36:40 PM »
sorry to hear that Ben

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« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2013, 03:38:50 PM »
I think a Rottweiler that is HIV positive is the best!

Yup... Only one thing meaner, the guy who gave the Rottweiler HIV!   ::)
 
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Trip wires and boards with nails exposed work well too but the law does not see kindly to them.

Very true...  Hurt the poor criminal and you may be:  charged criminally or sued civilly; or both!   :(
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« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2013, 03:41:38 PM »
I hope you get to put a bullet in this guy.  He deserves to be shot.  Next Sunday consider sending your old lady to church and you stay at home and be very quiet until she gets back...

In the meantime scope out getting another or larger gun safe.  Where I live, I couldn't leave without being stressed if I couldn't get all my guns in the safe.

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« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2013, 03:43:41 PM »
Funny thing, I was told never to shoot more than a couple holes in someone when you kill  them, or else it will be perceived as excessive force.......since I have a 357 would the two count as twice dead?
 
Hope it never comes to having to shoot someone, but we've had home invasions, etc. in the neighborhood so sooner or later......they will boot the wrong house at the wrong time.
 
Shame of it is, if they came to my door hungry or in need, I would never turn them away....but I don't like to be stolen from.
 
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« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2013, 03:57:57 PM »
Sorry to hear about that.
Check out Northern tool. They sell a 500w halogen motion light that has a built in camera. Records day or night, video or stills, and runs on 110v. Uses an SD card and continually overwrites the card once it's full, so you don't have to change anything until something happens and you need to pull the pics/video. I have mine set across from the house so I get license plate's going in and faces coming out.
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