Author Topic: New York friendly AR15 sporter (Read 2066 times)

Avyctes · « **on:** January 15, 2013, 09:34:17 AM »

So, in light of New York's legislature they're thinking of adopting (Link) I was thinking of an AR with a montecarlo sporter stock to appeal to their hatred of pistol grips, converted to belt fed (through the side opposite the ejection port) to circumvent the magazine restriction (because it would not have a magazine at all).

If you think that sounds ridiculous, read the tripe on the link.

Chris.

Mikey · « **Reply #1 on:** January 15, 2013, 01:08:29 PM »

Avy.. hey, when you think about it the AR platform is perfectly sportable, just like the Kalashnikove platform. When you look at it, the darn thing is just a semi-auto rifle that can be had in so many different configurations that sporterization should be considered a natural evolution of that platform.

Go with a nice wood stock, good fitting and functional - black plastic stocks make cowards and liberals crap their pants; same with the pistol grips. Demilitarize the barrel and action - go for a integral magazine or limit the mag to4 or 5 shots, Use sporter sights and dress it for sporter scopes rather than mil-spec stuff. The AR platform will sporterize better than any of the other semi-auto military actions we have used. The aluminum might not take a nice blue but hey.......

Mike in Virginia · « **Reply #2 on:** January 15, 2013, 03:08:04 PM »

I think the AR must undergo some cosmetic changes before it will be acceptable to the libs.

Avyctes · « **Reply #3 on:** January 16, 2013, 05:16:51 AM »

And to your point on the AR naturally evolving into a sporter carbine, as much as I love the look of a Kalashnikov, the Saiga has really grown on me with its different style stock set. For the money, I believe a Saiga in 223, or 5.45x39, is one of the best guns out there for the money. Dang I wish I had bought one.

Avyctes · « **Reply #4 on:** January 16, 2013, 05:17:51 AM »

Oh and I love the wood AR stocks. Beautiful.

JonnyReb · « **Reply #5 on:** January 16, 2013, 11:18:59 AM »

An AK I'm partial to still wears its post ban legal thumbhole stock(wood) and I wouldn't change it for anything other than one with prettier wood. I like the autoloaders in useful sporting garb, add a 5rd mag and its as serious a deer rifle as any. J

mechanic · « **Reply #6 on:** January 16, 2013, 11:24:10 AM »

In New York, my H&R Sportster 22 mag. would be an assault rifle....it has a "Survivor" pistol grip stock on it.......

Ben

mechanic · « **Reply #7 on:** January 16, 2013, 11:25:39 AM »

I also noted on the link, that they allow sales to relatives without check. We all descend from one man and woman.....hello cuz!

Ben

SharonAnne · « **Reply #8 on:** January 16, 2013, 04:04:45 PM »

Cuzin Ben, how ya been!

Airsporter · « **Reply #9 on:** January 27, 2013, 12:24:47 AM »

Quote from: mechanic on January 16, 2013, 11:24:10 AM

In New York, my H&R Sportster 22 mag. would be an assault rifle....it has a "Survivor" pistol grip stock on it.......

Ben

New York's tyranny is limited to semi-autos.

ironglow · « **Reply #10 on:** January 27, 2013, 12:48:51 AM »

In NY, most of the legislators..being from the big cities..have their heads up in a dark, smelly place.. Take that from someone who lives in nthe far western end of the state.
We had one or two legislators from this end of the state who voted for the ban. They were some of the core... I won't call them by that name, but it's where they keep their heads.. They were from the Buffalo area of course...but still they weren't considered any kind of friend by the local talk-radio folks..
I wish we could take NY and PA and cut a line down along th Hudson R... excluding NYC..then down the Sesquehanna R. and make a brand new state. Very different people from one end of the state to the other.
I would just bet a lot of Oregon & Washington folks would like to do similar..and perhaps California too..

Bugflipper · « **Reply #11 on:** January 27, 2013, 01:09:19 AM »

With the last ban before they started the thumbhole stocks they got by with this style. http://www.k-var.com/shop/VPR-701.html ARs were american made so they kept their pistol grips.
The CA legal stocks just don't look comfortable at all. http://www.tenpercentfirearms.com/index.php?main_page=ar15 I bet a fellow could make one that was more user friendly. Like a bench rest stock with a big drop at the grip.

Here's an idea just make a filler from the trigger to the stock on this. http://www.brpguns.com/categories/Semi-Auto-Firearms/XMG-Belt%252dFed-AR%252d15%7B47%7DM16-Upper-Receiver/

Mikey · « **Reply #12 on:** January 27, 2013, 02:02:25 AM »

VPR - not for sale in the peoples republik of neu yorc.

SharonAnne · « **Reply #13 on:** January 27, 2013, 08:32:10 AM »

belt fed has been added to the forbidden fruit

ironglow · « **Reply #14 on:** January 27, 2013, 08:50:24 AM »

Another place where the legislators were stupid..outlawing the "pistol grip'.. All my rifles and shotguns have a pistol grip; none of them look like a 1911 or 1851 Colt army grip hanging from the gun..but they do have "pistol grips"...I just don't like stocks which run in a straight line from trigger guard to the toe of the buttplate.
That's what happens when know-nots make laws!

BUGEYE · « **Reply #15 on:** January 27, 2013, 09:47:42 AM »

Quote from: ironglow on January 27, 2013, 08:50:24 AM

Another place where the legislators were stupid..outlawing the "pistol grip'.. All my rifles and shotguns have a pistol grip; none of them look like a 1911 or 1851 Colt army grip hanging from the gun..but they do have "pistol grips"...I just don't like stocks which run in a straight line from trigger guard to the toe of the buttplate.
That's what happens when know-nots make laws!

Kinda like point-blank-range, a lot of people don't understand that either.

SharonAnne · « **Reply #16 on:** January 27, 2013, 11:00:34 PM »

there is no such thing as a NYC friendly AR15. They want them BANNED, confiscated and destroyed.

OldSchoolRanger · « **Reply #17 on:** February 22, 2013, 05:58:49 AM »

Wait until the date when registration is required, whenever that is. Lets see how many of the AR's currently legally owned by NYers actually get registered. If California is any sort of barometer, you'll get less than 1% registration.

I think they call it: An Act Mass Civil Disobedience!

Right now California's lack of registration of their AR's has been called the largest act of mass civil disobedience in history.

SharonAnne · « **Reply #18 on:** February 22, 2013, 03:42:40 PM »

what is it called when the County Sheriff says he will arrest feds who try to confiscate firearms? My County Sheriff is on record stating he will do just that.

mechanic · « **Reply #19 on:** February 22, 2013, 03:48:55 PM »

Quote from: SharonAnne on February 22, 2013, 03:42:40 PM

what is it called when the County Sheriff says he will arrest feds who try to confiscate firearms? My County Sheriff is on record stating he will do just that.

They call it upholding the constitution.

Ben

SharonAnne · « **Reply #20 on:** February 23, 2013, 09:05:59 AM »

exactly, thank you Ben.

Graybeard · « **Reply #21 on:** November 27, 2019, 05:05:22 AM »

Let's bring this one back up and see if folks might want to talk more about it.