They have a store in Spokane that sells the CZ trainers, one with the real long barrel, for around $250. I have definitely considered one. How about the heavy hammer forged barreled Ruger with the laminate stock? They have one on consignment at $240 which looks like it has never been shot. A friend thinks I should spring for it and later tune it up with trigger, etc. What do you think as your experience is far above mine on this. Price seems real good on this Ruger if they are a reasonable shooter. Would still have to spring for a scope, though.