30 Billion more dollars for Israel

[rio grande]

Well my social security payment just went up about $30/week and since we all know that money goes into the general fund... I guess I'm now supporting even more Israeli war crimes and racism.


 $30,000,000,000 more for the Israeli Armed Forces.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/17/world/middleeast/17israel.html?_r=1&

[powderman]

Money well spent, pretty cheap security, and thats over 10 years BTW.  They have to have some way to counter all the $billions hussein gives the palis for bombs rockets and ammo to murder Jews with. POWDERMAN. 

[nw_hunter]

Money well spent, pretty cheap security, and thats over 10 years BTW.  They have to have some way to counter all the $billions hussein gives the palis for bombs rockets and ammo to murder Jews with. POWDERMAN. 

Anyone stop to look at the date on that breaking news? It was news in 2007.    Good grief!

[Anna]

LOL ! 

[magooch]

That's kind of the way libs do; if there's nothing else to grouse about, make something up.

[rio grande]

LOL ! 

I missed the date, but is the joke on me? Or on all of us?
It's still $30 billion, we,'re still paying for it, and it's still wrong we are fooled into supporting a faux nation
that works against America's best interests.
BTW, since when is it "liberal" to oppose injustice?

[bosephus]

 i sure dont know where your view of isreal  is coming from .

i agree with powderman .... compared to all the other billions our goverment wastes  .. this is money very well spent .

 israell is our only hope  and ally  in the mid east 

[Duke0313]

 i sure dont know where your view of isreal  is coming from .

i agree with powderman .... compared to all the other billions our goverment wastes  .. this is money very well spent .

 israell is our only hope  and ally  in the mid east

AMEN!!

[Hairy Chest]

Jews push for gun control in America, and Americans are dumb to give money to Israel. 

[powderman]

There shouldn't be even ONE RED CENT given to ANY muslim nation, PERIOD. They are enemies of America who have sworn to destroy us and Israel, or support others who do. We have no muslim friends, only a few who tolerate us for AID. And now imam obama want to GIVE egypt 20 new F-16s and 200 tanks?? GEE, I wonder who they'd be used against?? Israel ya think?? Thats husseins plan. POWDERMAN. 

[BUGEYE]

Israel is OUR ONLY ALLY in the middle east.  we need to remain friends or their will be a nuclear holocaust their when all the muzzies gang up on Israel.  without us, the ragheads would attack, and if Israel saw that they could not win a conventional war, they would trot out their nukes which I'm sure has warheads aimed at every city in the middle east, and instead of destroying one country, it would be the entire region.
We really shouldn't let that happen.

[nw_hunter]

There shouldn't be even ONE RED CENT given to ANY muslim nation, PERIOD. They are enemies of America who have sworn to destroy us and Israel, or support others who do. We have no muslim friends, only a few who tolerate us for AID. And now imam obama want to GIVE egypt 20 new F-16s and 200 tanks?? GEE, I wonder who they'd be used against?? Israel ya think?? Thats husseins plan. POWDERMAN. 

How about not spending ONE RED CENT on any nation but the USA. Get real! Israel has enough power in it's war machine right now to destroy the middle east.Apparently they have enough power in the USA to demand and get anything they want.Including buying elections and sending a representative to the White House. The Jews in America (Mostly Democrat) have their man in power here.Don't take my word for it! Do the research, and see where a majority of Obama's campaign money started from. Look at the gun confiscation plan coming from DC.The biggest threat from Congress is coming from who?Schummer, Feinstein, Boxer and several other Jews.And who did those Jews support in the Presidential election?  B.H.Obama. The Muzzie Lover Yea right!

[Hairy Chest]

There shouldn't be even ONE RED CENT given to ANY muslim nation, PERIOD. They are enemies of America who have sworn to destroy us and Israel, or support others who do. We have no muslim friends, only a few who tolerate us for AID. And now imam obama want to GIVE egypt 20 new F-16s and 200 tanks?? GEE, I wonder who they'd be used against?? Israel ya think?? Thats husseins plan. POWDERMAN. 

How about not spending ONE RED CENT on any nation but the USA. Get real! Israel has enough power in it's war machine right now to destroy the middle east.Apparently they have enough power in the USA to demand and get anything they want.Including buying elections and sending a representative to the White House. The Jews in America (Mostly Democrat) have their man in power here.Don't take my word for it! Do the research, and see where a majority of Obama's campaign money started from. Look at the gun confiscation plan coming from DC.The biggest threat from Congress is coming from who?Schummer, Feinstein, Boxer and several other Jews.And who did those Jews support in the Presidential election?  B.H.Obama. The Muzzie Lover Yea right!

Jews are the gun control movement.  We should send them to Israel and let them make their trouble there.  No, wait, the Arabs don't want them either.  Nobody does. 

[powderman]

Christians know why we should support Gods people, the rest of you don't have a clue. I could give you another Bible quote but sincerely doubt that some of you would have the means to verify it. Sad. POWDERMAN. 

[Mike in Virginia]

I dread the day that we don't support Israel.  Regardless of politics, I'd not want to be part of a people against Israel.  I'd not want my soul released from my deteriorating body stained with the blackness of hating Jews.   

[Hairy Chest]

I dread the day that we don't support Israel.  Regardless of politics, I'd not want to be part of a people against Israel.  I'd not want my soul released from my deteriorating body stained with the blackness of hating Jews.

Half of Israel citizens are atheists.  They have a law perhaps like other ME countries that prohibits teaching the Bible.  There are video's abound of Jesus being mocked in Israel.  One shows a bikini model crucifying a monkey she calls Jesus.  Stop using the sorry excuse that Israel is somehow connected to a religion which gained it's purity in Europe, not the Middle East.  After watching the Jews role in 20th century Marxism, one would be a fool to think of the modern day occupation of Palestine dubbed Israel as something holy. 

[scootrd]

Powderman ,
I have no issues with supporting Israel with Moral support , peace talks, ally necessities when country interests coincide etc. But I do not believe we need to be sending them billions $$$$. It's getting to the point of ridiculous. Just have them hoist an American flag and we will make them our 51st welfare state.  It's one thing to extend a hand in friendship to a country , it's another to continuously support them with $$$.

I wonder how much $$$ we shell out to support these dependent areas as well. Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Virgin Islands, Baker Island, Guam, Howland Island, Jarvis Island, Johnston Atoll, Kingman Reef, Midway Islands, Navassa Island, Northern Mariana Islands, Palmyra Atoll,  Wake Island.

TM wrote

 Why is it that all other countries that get US foreign aid, Have to buy American Products But Israel Doesn’t?

I have scratched my head and asked that question for years.

"I am for free commerce with all nations, political connection with none, and little or no diplomatic establishment. And I am not for linking ourselves by new treaties with the quarrels of Europe, entering that field of slaughter to preserve their balance, or joining in the confederacy of Kings to war against the principles of liberty." --Thomas Jefferson to Elbridge Gerry, 1799.

"We have a perfect horror at everything like connecting ourselves with the politics of Europe." --Thomas Jefferson to William Short, 1801.

Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations--entangling alliances with none, I deem the essential principles of our government, and consequently those which ought to shape its administration." --Thomas Jefferson: 1st Inaugural Address, 1801.

"We wish not to meddle with the internal affairs of any country, nor with the general affairs of Europe. Peace with all nations, and the right which that gives us with respect to all nations, are our object." --Thomas Jefferson to C. W. F. Dumas, 1793.

[Mike in Virginia]

What the people of Israel believe or don't believe, what they do or don't do, takes nothing away from who they are.  Please read your bible.  Please try to understand why the U.S. should support them.

[1marty]

Antisemetics are alive and well and some even post here. Seems the one leading the charge for gun control is Biden. I don't recall whether he was Bar Mitzva? I could have sworn he was christian? Did he convert for the gun control issue?

[scootrd]

Well ,
I for one am far from Antisemetic. I have Jewish family members . And yes fierce debates around the dinner table are normal  in our large family .

Friendship with other countries , and helping a friend country in time of need is one thing. Having to support an additional welfare state (country) drain every year is another. A country should be able to support themselves financially without yearly budgeted reliance on foreign aid from the US.

Eventually even as parents there comes a time to cut your kids off receiving an allowance.

Here is a concept , how about all nations paying us for our military , technology, security and surveillance support.

[powderman]

hairy. Your post #16 just proved MY post # 14. POWDERMAN. 

[Swampman]

Israel pays us back.....many fold.

[scootrd]

Israel pays us back.....many fold.

YEP THEY SURE DO..

28 July, 2012,
While US politicians boast strong ties with Israel, CIA officials suggest Israel is one of its biggest counter-intelligence threats. With spyware that rivals that of American agencies, it is extremely difficult to detect the extent of its spying. In a CIA ranking of the world’s intelligence agencies and their willingness to help the US fight the War on Terror, Israel fell below Libya.

“It’s a complicated relationship,” said Joseph Wippl, head of the CIA’s office of congressional affairs. “They have their interests. We have our interests. For the US, it’s a balancing act.”

But while the two countries are strong allies, Washington continues to distrust Israel with sensitive national security information. Its most trusted allies are Britain, Australia, Canada and New Zealand. Together, the “Five Eyes” agree not to spy on one another, while sharing sensitive information. The relationship between the US and Israel is known as “Friends on Friends,” which comes from the phrase, “Friends don’t spy on friends.” But that pact has repeatedly been broken, and CIA officials continue to distrust Israel with each additional case of spying.

intrusions into the homes of US agents in Israel continue and instances of spying increase the distrust, the US continues to give vast amounts of money to Israel, while the president trumpets an “unshakeable commitment to Israel.” President Obama promised Israel an additional $70 million in military aid to help Israel produce a short-range rocket defense system.

There are many Jonathan Pollard's in this country and in our govt. I have no doubt.

[Duke0313]

I dread the day that we don't support Israel.  Regardless of politics, I'd not want to be part of a people against Israel.  I'd not want my soul released from my deteriorating body stained with the blackness of hating Jews.

AMEN AGAIN, Brother Powderman!!!

[scootrd]

People interchange being critical of the state of Israel and hating Jews.
They are two separate things. 

You can be critical of Israel , the policies , the politics , the US subsidies provided etc.. without hating Jewish people.

I'm critical of the choices my brother makes in life, does that make me love him less. NO it does not.

[Hairy Chest]

People interchange being critical of the state of Israel and hating Jews.
They are two separate things. 

You can be critical of Israel , the policies , the politics , the US subsidies provided etc.. without hating Jewish people.

I'm critical of the choices my brother makes in life, does that make me love him less. NO it does not.

There is no room for hating anyone, Arab, Muslim, Republican.  Each has a right to it's culture and nation.  Likewise, we also need to love not only Jews, but all other animals.  We need to love all living creatures.   

[BBF]

People interchange being critical of the state of Israel and hating Jews.
They are two separate things. 

You can be critical of Israel , the policies , the politics , the US subsidies provided etc.. without hating Jewish people.

That would be a normal situation with any other country but never ever criticize Israel. You will be labeled as anti semitic, racist or a nazi, facts do not matter in the least.  The indoctrination/brainwashing runs deep, examples are present on this Site.

[Hairy Chest]

$30 Billion?  Sure, I get it.  Capital Hill is Israeli-occupied territory.   We need to bring the troops home and put them on the border.  We needed to do that for a long time, but it's not too late.  Maybe an African-American President will do something good for African Americans and shut that border down.  We are in a recession and we need to put our people to work. 

[powderman]

hairy. Jews are animals huh?? Reread my posts #s 14 and 21. Nuff said. POWDERMAN. 

[Hairy Chest]

hairy. Jews are animals huh?? Reread my posts #s 14 and 21. Nuff said. POWDERMAN. 

We are all animals.  Some more advanced than others.  This is due to how fast each group evolved specific to a given area.