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The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« on: January 19, 2013, 07:02:57 AM »
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2013, 08:31:30 AM »
Very interesting.  Looked it up on:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946).  Food for thought.
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2013, 03:08:30 PM »
more interesting that the Wikipedia reference was unavailable--either removed or changed.
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2013, 03:58:08 PM »
Everyday folks rising up against wealthy overlords? I support it. How do you rightys justify it, since the situation in those towns was a very good example of the gerrymandering the right has done throughout the south for over 100 years?
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2013, 04:00:25 PM »
eugenes' wiki link redirects you to the correct wiki link.

You think we would have grown up hearing about that.
Kind of a modern Hatfileld/McCoy event.
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2013, 08:29:25 AM »
this wasn't gerrymandering  it was ballot stuffing or miscounting
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2013, 10:01:37 AM »
The conflict was a direct result of the Cantrell family gerrymandering the county to negate opposing votes, just like the entire south has been gerrymandered by Republican governors to counter Democrat votes.
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2013, 10:43:24 AM »
CDQ ,
Please provide proof.  In my state the gerrymandered districts were created by democrats to insure the election of democratic candidates.  My district is 178 miles long, and only 10 feet wide in places created by democrats, and has always had a democraic representative.
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2013, 03:29:36 PM »
The correct wiki link talks about the state changing the districts (possible gerrymandering) but does not mention the Cantrell's influence on the re-districting. Sounds like the Cantrells definitely figured out how to use it to their advantage.
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2013, 03:01:24 AM »
Quote from: boomerralph on January 20, 2013, 10:43:24 AM
CDQ ,
Please provide proof.  In my state the gerrymandered districts were created by democrats to insure the election of democratic candidates.  My district is 178 miles long, and only 10 feet wide in places created by democrats, and has always had a democraic representative.
LOL, you must be from Georgia. we have a district like that created by democrats.
CDQ seldom has anything to back up his accusations.
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2013, 04:29:17 AM »
I ALWAYS have evidence to back up my statements. Some are not capable of understanding that facts do not have bias. And yes, both parties use gerrymandering to their advantage. In most places the redistricting is pretty well balanced, but in the south it's been weighted towards the Republicans since nearly back to the Civil War. I don't know about Georgis, but Tennessee, for instance, has been Republican controlled since I was born. When I moved away, 13 years ago, most Tennesseans were Democrats. The state was about 4 million people, but over 2 million lived in the Memphis area. Because of the districting, the Democrats never had a chance in most elections. Why do you think southern rightys are so adamant that "this is a republic?" Because, if it were a real democracy, they wouldn't have a chance.
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2013, 04:53:06 AM »
Quote from: ChungDoQuan on January 21, 2013, 04:29:17 AM
I ALWAYS have evidence to back up my statements. Some are not capable of understanding that facts do not have bias. And yes, both parties use gerrymandering to their advantage. In most places the redistricting is pretty well balanced, but in the south it's been weighted towards the Republicans since nearly back to the Civil War. I don't know about Georgis, but Tennessee, for instance, has been Republican controlled since I was born. When I moved away, 13 years ago, most Tennesseans were Democrats. The state was about 4 million people, but over 2 million lived in the Memphis area. Because of the districting, the Democrats never had a chance in most elections. Why do you think southern rightys are so adamant that "this is a republic?" Because, if it were a real democracy, they wouldn't have a chance.
A real democracy? You mean majority rules and no Constitution? No bill of rights to protect us from government overreach? So in your mind "Rightys" are responsible for the freedom we enjoy in this country! A real breakthrough here. CDQ gets It!
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2013, 07:07:23 AM »
IIRC wasn't the democratic party the party of choice of the KKK?
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2013, 07:57:19 AM »
You can spin it but you can't win it.
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2013, 01:47:19 PM »
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2023, 02:28:29 AM »
An interesting time. Our local library found a copy of the book about it I could check out and read. Can't recommend it too much. It is why owning a gun is important for both conservatives and liberals. Human nature can lead any of us, oth liberals and conservatives, to become authoritarian. Ànd, sometimes only a gun can make authoritarian's back down.
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2023, 05:54:19 AM »
Quote from: gene_225 on February 16, 2023, 02:28:29 AM
An interesting time. Our local library found a copy of the book about it I could check out and read. Can't recommend it too much. It is why owning a gun is important for both conservatives and liberals. Human nature can lead any of us, oth liberals and conservatives, to become authoritarian. Ànd, sometimes only a gun can make authoritarian's back down.
Problem is its usually authoritarians are backed with a 20 man swat team . 20 to one odds .
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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2023, 06:38:54 AM »
Kneeling and bowing your head is always a choice you can always make.
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2023, 08:33:08 AM »
Quote from: ChungDoQuan on January 21, 2013, 04:29:17 AM
I ALWAYS have evidence to back up my statements. Some are not capable of understanding that facts do not have bias. And yes, both parties use gerrymandering to their advantage. In most places the redistricting is pretty well balanced, but in the south it's been weighted towards the Republicans since nearly back to the Civil War. I don't know about Georgis, but Tennessee, for instance, has been Republican controlled since I was born. When I moved away, 13 years ago, most Tennesseans were Democrats. The state was about 4 million people, but over 2 million lived in the Memphis area. Because of the districting, the Democrats never had a chance in most elections. Why do you think southern rightys are so adamant that "this is a republic?" Because, if it were a real democracy, they wouldn't have a chance.



This one is easy to call bullsh*t.  Gerrymandering has NO effect on statewide elections, only district wide elections.  If there were more democraps in Tennessee than repubicans, Tennessee would not keep voting for republican presidents.  So, how about those facts?
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2023, 09:19:12 AM »
I once read where the defenders were WWII veterans. Just back from the war.
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2023, 10:35:58 AM »
Quote from: gene_225 on February 16, 2023, 06:38:54 AM
Kneeling and bowing your head is always a choice you can always make.
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2023, 01:17:37 PM »
Quote from: mcbammer on February 16, 2023, 10:35:58 AM
Quote from: gene_225 on February 16, 2023, 06:38:54 AM
Kneeling and bowing your head is always a choice you can always make.
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Depends on the living conditions, and personal values.  ;)
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2023, 03:42:25 AM »
Quote from: gene_225 on February 16, 2023, 06:38:54 AM
Kneeling and bowing your head is always a choice you can always make.
 

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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2023, 04:27:12 PM »
Quote from: Casull on February 16, 2023, 08:33:08 AM
This one is easy to call bullsh*t.  Gerrymandering has NO effect on statewide elections, only district wide elections.  If there were more democraps in Tennessee than repubicans, Tennessee would not keep voting for republican presidents.  So, how about those facts?

Person you are quoting & replying to, apparently was last on GBO on:

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Source: https://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=74759

Be curious to see if ya get a reply.
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There is a movie about this event. I found the following on U-tube, but there are a few more sources one could look for in search engines if anyone wants to watch it from a different source.

I remember watching it some years ago & thought it was OK.

Link >> Battle of Athens movie

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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2023, 04:44:04 PM »
LOL, I didn't even notice the date.  Guess he won't.
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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2023, 05:30:46 PM »
ChungDoQuan was banned a very long time ago so no, they won't reply to you, not under that name at least. I do not see any reason given for the ban and I don't recall if it was me or someone else who banned them so I don't recall why.

I do have some vague recollection of them being a trouble maker of some sort. Anyone coming in with that name you'd kind of expect to not fit in wouldn't ya?

Here is a link to his last posts before the ban if anyone wants to take a look. Seems to have departed here in July of 2013. That was before we sold the original site.

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Re: The Battle of Athens Tennessee, restoreing the rule of Law
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2023, 11:23:44 PM »
hell his name is enough to ban him in my opinion
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