NRA warns of possible door to door gun confiscations.

[jrfrmn]

Think how many unregistered guns there are. Heck, I might own a few myself. How do you confinscate something there is no record of? Don't know about you all but I certainly ain't volunteering info. Wanna see it hit the fan let them start knocking on doors. If they can find someone suicidal enough to do so. One thing about we Americans, we can only be pushed so far before we push back...HARD! As far as SWAT they are still made up of Americans and so far an aweful lot of LE's are making a point of letting it be known that they will refuse to enforce what they see as an unlawful attack on the Second Amendment and private citizens. Even whole states are proposing bills saying the same thing. Heck, if the Government doesn't have the resources to find and round up an estimated 11 million illegal aliens  how are they going to round up an estimated 420 million registered guns? Keep in mind they don't even venture a guess at the number of unregistered and illegal guns.
 
 
 
 

I just upgraded my NRA membership. I wish I could have done it years ago, but I was too busy working for pennies to support my family. Now I can send more donations. The dumocrats want to disarm the traditional american citizen,because they are the ones that will defend the constitution. They could definately round up all the illegals if they wanted to, but they probably would prefer another 11 million to help accomplish the unconstutional destruction of our country. Their guns would be legal because there is no record of them here except to vote.

[Savage .250]

So what if the NRA askes it`s membership for money ? You go to church and the pass the plate. The Red Cross askes for money. You get calls all the time for this cause or that cause ,asking for money. Adds on TV ask for Money. Although it`s called a donation.   You get mail from all sorts of charities asking for help (money.)  The list goes on. 
   Either you send,donate or not.  It`s your call.   
 
  The membership of the NRA ia scattered all over the place. How else are they supposed to raise funds  accept by mail. Which seems to bother many.  Seems like you can`t have your cake and eat it too. 
  Representation is not free.  It costs money operate a business . Hence the "dreaded" mailer. 
     If you don`t want to "donate" Don`t.  No body is banging on doors making you do anything you don`t want to do. 
 
 All that being said, all those that donate know one thing for certain, their efforts are helping to keep the other faction of the NRA able to enjoy their gun benefits.
 
  I get mail. Calls. what ever.   It`s not like I get those every day. So to me it`s just the NRA just doing what they have to do to help me (us) enjoy my freedoms.   
 
 Just my opinion.   
 
   
   
 
 

[BUGEYE]

So what if the NRA askes it`s membership for money ? You go to church and the pass the plate. The Red Cross askes for money. You get calls all the time for this cause or that cause ,asking for money. Adds on TV ask for Money. Although it`s called a donation.   You get mail from all sorts of charities asking for help (money.)  The list goes on. 
   Either you send,donate or not.  It`s your call.   
 
  The membership of the NRA ia scattered all over the place. How else are they supposed to raise funds  accept by mail. Which seems to bother many.  Seems like you can`t have your cake and eat it too. 
  Representation is not free.  It costs money operate a business . Hence the "dreaded" mailer. 
     If you don`t want to "donate" Don`t.  No body is banging on doors making you do anything you don`t want to do. 
 
 All that being said, all those that donate know one thing for certain, their efforts are helping to keep the other faction of the NRA able to enjoy their gun benefits.
 
  I get mail. Calls. what ever.   It`s not like I get those every day. So to me it`s just the NRA just doing what they have to do to help me (us) enjoy my freedoms.   
 
 Just my opinion.   
 
   
   

Agreed... you can tell if you need to open the envelope.  in the 38 years since I became a lifer, they have sent me a new card 2 or 3 times.

[greenmtnboy]

Tell me this.  If someone comes to your door and says Im here to take your guns today   Are you going to just hand them over ??   Im afraid there will be a lot of job openings if that ever happens .
  I think its more of a statement that it could happen, But will it,  I doubt it.

It   will  more  likely  a  team  of  S.W.A.T.   knocking  the  door  down takeing  the guns no  questions  asked.

   Ahh   so now its escalated to swat teams   lol   and how many teams does the Govt have.  They wont be obvious either will they ?  Probably gonna drop in by silent helicopters Right ?? lol
  Im not saying they wouldnt like to do this but lets get real.  Do you really think this is the way its going down ?   Come on  sleep a little at night. Standup for yourself and the rights we now have as most other gun owners are doing .  Im sure the Govt just loves hearing people say theres no stopping them..

[Mike in Virginia]

If the feds come to your door, do not lie.  That in itself is a crime.  You must not lie to a federal officer.  However, you can refuse to answer their questions, and you can refuse their entry into your home.  You will have time to conceal your guns.
That said, when your guns are outlawed, you won't have much use for them except when the final chapter opens.  You can't take them to the rane, you can't let anyone know you have them, you can't use them at all. 
It's a tough call.  When you know you are a felon by keeping what the 2nd Amendment allows you to keep, and when you know the ATF has been granted authority to ignore your rights, when you know you will go to jail if you hide and keep what is illegal, what should you do?
We are looking at a phase of what will be history that has never befallen the U.S.  It's a different nation now.  Obama has changed it.  Eash of us need to decide in advance of legal gun seizures what we will do.   

[greenmtnboy]

   Mike,  I agree with you.  The biggest problem I see at this time are the people that have decided Gun owners are already beat.  I wont except that at all.  The first victory for the Govt. will be reading on sites like this one and seeing people say you will have no choice and there will be no defense. A win for us  will be saying NO your not taking my guns or Restricting my ownership. If gun owners cant standup that much then we will lose big time.  We do still have a say and You can bet Big Bro keeps an eye on these sites .   

[mcbammer]

Whether  you  realize  it  or  not  your  ownership  has  been  restricted  for  the  last  50 years. 

[greenmtnboy]

    It may be to a point and for the most part as it is now I agree with it and it doesnt affect what I do at all. But Im not giving in on some future restrictions and I dont believe most of the people here will either.  Just because ideas are being thrown around doesnt make it law, There feelers, lets see whatll happen statements.  The Ideas that some people come up with are wild tho,  but each to there own.

[45-70.gov]

HAS ANY ONE EVER HEARS ANY ESTIMATED
 or what is your speculation of


how many people  ''per 100 thousand''  will respond with violence to gun confiscation??


just my guess...5 to 10

[jimster]

how many people  ''per 100 thousand''  will respond with violence to gun
confiscation?? just my guess...5 to 10

That's enough to stop door to door gun confiscation in a small neighborhood...for a period of time, and cause massive trouble and eat up all the resources for an area. Lets see...300 million gun owners...5 to 10 per one thousand...sounds like trouble to me.
About the same amount as those who decided to fight for freedom against the British...not very many people were going to chance that either. More got on board when it appeared they had a small chance of finally wining something.
It's always a very few brave men who win freedom for all and lay it all on the line. It's always been that way. Nobody is going to beat you up if your not one of the few, but don't think badly of the few...they are the ones that gave us all we had to begin with.

[JonnyReb]

  I'm watching the latest Foxnews update on future gun bans, and a Fla sheriff is among the growing number of LEO who are publicly refusing to uphold or allow the Feds to take "anything" within their county lines. Great Americans like this are defusing the libs charge by showing force. I'm proud of them, they're patriots themselves.

 So far as how many in a thousand would resist ? I'll say one in 10. I do believe 10% of our population would resist an effort to confiscate, and I think more would join in once they saw the success of the "rebels". I believe it would tear the country apart in the process. Give the libs another 15-20 years though and I think enough. Propaganda will have infiltrated the general populace to make it a much easier task. Bunch of these old timers gotta die off first.  J

[jimster]

I totally agree with you Jonnyreb....and it's not something any of us would look forward to, it's just something that would happen.
It does not take many numbers to throw a big problem into government....as a matter of fact it only took one act of violence from one person to throw our entire county into a tizzy with knee jerk reactions coming from everywhere.

and a Fla sheriff is among the growing number of LEO who are publicly refusing to uphold or allow the Feds to take "anything" within their county lines.

Only a one or two scenarios like this, with citizens standing with LEO and sheriffs...is more than the government wants to deal with...I hope. My point is, it does not take many to cause a huge problem, and they know it. I think both sides would try to avoid this. I hope!
 

[SharonAnne]

Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County Arizona has investigated obamas birth certificate and declared it false. He has also said He and his men will NOT enforce any AWB and will arrest Feebs who try. God I love Arizona.

[KIMBER45]

Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County Arizona has investigated obamas birth certificate and declared it false. He has also said He and his men will NOT enforce any AWB and will arrest Feebs who try. God I love Arizona.

He must be working for Donald Trump.

[SharonAnne]

no, just the voters of Maricopa County AZ

[JonnyReb]

  And I'll agree with you Jimster, its a scenario we NEVER want to see play out. On the brighter side of things, I think that unless something crazy happens, the gungrabbers have been slowed and nothing near what they want will come to fruition. Certainly no confiscation. Yet.

 I think to that the administration has seen the potential for tremendous pushback from its own LEO and military, not to mention from the general law abiding population. Personally I think I can go back to worrying about the collapse of the dollar for the moment, and relax a bit on the gun ban(for now).  J

[BBF]

When there is a shortage of food, fuel and meds. how many of your neighbors would rat you out for a little bit of those items??

[greenmtnboy]

   Its always good to see fellow Americans, especially LEO's that arent willing to be pushed by a political few .  I do agree and hope thats as far as it goes but I honestly think this is only the beginning. 
  They have used the latest shootings against all gun owners and I dont think itll stop here . We just need to keep reminding them of where we stand I guess .

[Ranger99]

if it ever got that bad, and i were caught
here and couldn't get away, i'd be dead.
all my neighbors are border-jumpers and
section-eight career welfare cases.
an analogy:
a few years back, i had came home at
lunchtime instead of staying at work
or picking something up. as i stepped
out of the truck, there was a huge boom.
i though it was a shot, but a transformer
on a pole had blown, and caught the alleyway
afire. i ran inside and called the f.d.
a good bit of grass and weeds were afire
and was about to burn up a neighbors
storage shed. the f.d. got there on time and got
everything extinguished. the headman came
up to me and asked where i lived. i told
him two houses over. he asked to see
my i.d. and said the cause of the fire
was someone trying to hook up cable t.v. and
he thought it might be me. he said i was the
only one to call. as all this was happening.
probably two dozen people came out of the
woodwork , i guess hoping to see a show
of some houses burning down. they all lived
nearby, and none had called for help. if i
 had not came home when i did, i wouldn't
have had a place to live because these border
jumpers and welfare rats wanted to see something
burn for excitement. they'd love to see someone
gunned down or have the law shoot somebody.

[BUGEYE]

Roughly 3% of the population fought in the revolution, so it would lower than 3% of the men who were able to fight.
most people then had one firearm, and today they have multiple firearms and a lot of ammo.
It could get warm for husseins brownshirts.

[45-70.gov]

it would have to be a revelution  of snippers

[JonnyReb]

  A bit off topic but a recent quote from an old buddy of mine.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      " standin in lines for ammo? Why r' they doing that?" If the shootin starts, I only need my deer rifle an a box of shells..them boys come my way it'll only take a few shots an I got all the purdy machine guns and ammo I can pick up!"

[SharonAnne]

Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa Co. Arizona has said not only will he not use the Sheriff Department to confiscate guns but he will arrest FEEBS who try.  Gotta love AZ


JonnyReb,,,,, Yeee Hawwww

[Spirithawk]

[JonnyReb]

  I liked that quote too

[45-70.gov]

  A bit off topic but a recent quote from an old buddy of mine.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      " standin in lines for ammo? Why r' they doing that?" If the shootin starts, I only need my deer rifle an a box of shells..them boys come my way it'll only take a few shots an I got all the purdy machine guns and ammo I can pick up!"

not  off topic


our deer rifles ARE their biggest threat
it all  about  incremental-ism....our deer rifles  don't scare enough people....yet!

[Spirithawk]

I posted this elsewhere but it fits here as well;
Maybe it's the Cherokee in me but I'm a bit hesitant to put my name on anything being sent to anyone in the Government right now. Think about it. If they ever do go door to door then guess who's doors they'll go to first?  They'll have a ready list of gun owners, even those who own unregistered guns! Not saying don't be heard. Just saying be mighty careful of any petitions you put your name to. Make dang sure they are legit!
 
Johnny, as I told some folks recently. It was the American Woodsmen, with their hunting rifles and Woodsman skills, that kicked the British's butts!

[SharonAnne]

careful aimed fire.  one shot at a time.

[Spirithawk]

careful aimed fire.  one shot at a time.

I like the way you think.

[SharonAnne]

I am honored. (blush)