How Hi Cap do we need ?

[SHOOTALL]

Ok before we start I think if you want a 500 round mag you should be able to have .
 Now what is pratical ? I have a 40 round mag for an AR , its a Colt It was on a sale table cheap so I got it. It is very heavy loaded and long , real long , been think it would make a nive monopod .
 Then there are 30 round mags , I seldom use one they get in the way . I have had guys who used them in combat where they were in a fox hole or such they had to dig a hole sometimes for them when space was cramped as sticking ones head up to high resulted in head shots .
 The 20 round mag seems about right to me. I hunt with an 8 or 10 round mag. These just feel right and don't take up alot of room or weigh to much.
When I shot an M1A I liked the 10 round mag best for hunting . But the 20 looked right at home .
any thoughts ? and no It's not about impending attacks on round count just what do most shooters like and use ? and if not prying why ?

[Buckskin]

I use the 20's almost exclusively, unless I'm just banging away at targets.  The 30's are too long for bench shooting and for hunting, not needed. The 20's are perfect imo.  I only have 25's for my M&P 15/22, but am planning on getting some short 10's once the caos settles down. Can't even pick them up for some reason...  I might pick up a 50 round drum for the 15/22 just for the heck of it if the prices come down again.  They look silly, but are a one of those things that will eventually be gone. And dumping 50 rounds of rimfire is a heck of a lot cheaper and easier on the gun than .223....

[Old Syko]

A better question at this point would be, When was it ever about need?  Ever shoot full auto with a 5 round mag?  Kinda defeats the purpose doesn't it?  Need is and should be based on use.  After all, the guns we use are tools aren't they, and used for a purpose.  Try to use a roofing nailer with a 5 round capacity or better yet make a 100' drain line with 6" lengths of pipe and unions.  It isn't now nor was it ever about need since there are other ways to do everything.


This is like asking how many calories does it take to survive physically?  It's not about need. 


With no regard for need, I do bench work with 20s, moving practice with 30s and 50s and beta mags for fun, or as otherwise known as the pursuit of happiness.  Therefore I NEED whatever I so desire.

[cjclemens]

I use the 20's for target practice and coyote hunting. They don't get in the way nearly as much.  I only have a few 30's, but they rarely see the light of day.

[mcwoodduck]

Well I have 75 and 100 round drums for my AK.
I think they are a little too much as they are heavy and cost a lot to load and are hard to reload. But with 100 rounds it takes a while till you need to reload.
Most of the time I use 20 round mags in my AR but have a bunch of 30's.
with CA being a 10 round mag state post 2001 for those that did not own earlier.
some of my handguns are 10 round some are more, most of the events I shoot in limit most things to 8 rounds for the rifle making things Garand friendly and 6 to 8 rounds for revolvers or 1911's. 
The more and more I shoot the the better I get with the guns and if push came to shove I know I can hit what I am aiming at and will take fewer rounds.  So I guess my answer is I need as many in the mag as are needed to shoot in an event. 
I do not think an ammo count will make a difference in what happens.  Carrying seven 7round mags or five 10 round mags is still a full box of shells and no matter what noone is going to beable to tackle and disarm someone as they try to reload. 

[SharonAnne]

one more round. one more round than I have now. always

[mcwoodduck]

Ok so I was thinking about this and if they limit the mag to 10 and we have another mentally ill person shoot up something, and we limit it down by three rounds each time we have another moron, at what point do we have single shot mags?  And clearly the amount in the gun is not stopping someone from doing something.  Look at Michlick and how fast he can run 24 rounds through a revolver. 

[454Puma]

I will except no more infringements on what I can and can not own as far as firearms!  If we give in to any more infringements they will just come back for more!  Just undersatnd the stated goal of the Liberal Progressive is total ban of all firearms!  Then they got total control and can do anything the want! The 2nd Amendment was put there for just that purpose to stop a Tyranical Government from taking control!   This exactly what is happening now! Do you wish to be free men or surfs? Remember Feinstiens words "If I could have gotten the votes I would have said America turn all your guns in" That was when she got the last AWB passed- and she still believes what she said then she wants all our firearms- no civilian ownership what so ever!    I say no not ever as long as I have a breath in my body will I submit to any new infringements!

[SHOOTALL]

Like I posted it's not about the law it's what is pratical.    the extra weight will slow down reaction time in some situations . The cost is a factor , the size is another . And yes in full auto larger capacity mags work better .
 as for drain lines with nipples , once saw a waste stack drop thru. the floor and get hooked up with 17 45's and 32 inches of pipe . Guy was to lazy to crawl out and get the needed pipe. He went to work some other place .

[Buckskin]

Maybe should have titled it different, like How Hi Cap do we use. That way wouldn't get under some of the poster's skin.  We all are a little jumpy these days on the topic of mags...
 
As I always tell my wife when she asks, "how many guns do you need!!??", "need is a funny word"....

[SHOOTALL]

I didn't want to confuse want with need  . But on the other hand I need to be able to get what I want  .
I do believe there are alot of buyers out there who have picked up AR/AK type weapons and hi-cap mags just because they were told they may not be able to later. Shame really , wish they had picked them up to fulfill there obligation as a citizen to protect there country , state , county/city , neighborhood and home. 

[Mikey]

How large a capacity magazine do you need - to defend yourself against a unjust and oppressive government, you need exactly what they have whether it is 20, 30, 40 or 50 or 100.  Whatever they use is exactly what you need, period.
 
For personal sport or hunting - you decide on how many rounds you want to carry.

[SHOOTALL]

How large a capacity magazine do you need - to defend yourself against a unjust and oppressive government, you need exactly what they have whether it is 20, 30, 40 or 50 or 100.  Whatever they use is exactly what you need, period. OK but we still need to be pratical. And application will dictate that.
 
For personal sport or hunting - you decide on how many rounds you want to carry.Yes of course , the question presented in the OP really. So how many ? it's all about compareing ideas right ?

[FPH]

Ok before we start I think if you want a 500 round mag you should be able to have .
 Now what is pratical ? I have a 40 round mag for an AR , its a Colt It was on a sale table cheap so I got it. It is very heavy loaded and long , real long , been think it would make a nive monopod .
 Then there are 30 round mags , I seldom use one they get in the way . I have had guys who used them in combat where they were in a fox hole or such they had to dig a hole sometimes for them when space was cramped as sticking ones head up to high resulted in head shots .
 The 20 round mag seems about right to me. I hunt with an 8 or 10 round mag. These just feel right and don't take up alot of room or weigh to much.
When I shot an M1A I liked the 10 round mag best for hunting . But the 20 looked right at home .
any thoughts ? and no It's not about impending attacks on round count just what do most shooters like and use ? and if not prying why ?

I'm restricted to a 5 rd mag. for hunting purposes (three for shotgun) , why do you need a 8-10 round mag.?  Necessary?  I agree with Old Syco,  it should be my right to have a 1000 rd mag. if I desire one.

[SHOOTALL]

Ok before we start I think if you want a 500 round mag you should be able to have .
 Now what is pratical ? I have a 40 round mag for an AR , its a Colt It was on a sale table cheap so I got it. It is very heavy loaded and long , real long , been think it would make a nive monopod .
 Then there are 30 round mags , I seldom use one they get in the way . I have had guys who used them in combat where they were in a fox hole or such they had to dig a hole sometimes for them when space was cramped as sticking ones head up to high resulted in head shots .
 The 20 round mag seems about right to me. I hunt with an 8 or 10 round mag. These just feel right and don't take up alot of room or weigh to much.
When I shot an M1A I liked the 10 round mag best for hunting . But the 20 looked right at home .
any thoughts ? and no It's not about impending attacks on round count just what do most shooters like and use ? and if not prying why ?

I'm restricted to a 5 rd mag. for hunting purposes (three for shotgun) , why do you need a 8-10 round mag.? We can use any mag we want as long as we are not hunting migatory birds like dove , duck etc. Necessary?Where we hunt we run deer with dogs and we can kill two deer a day . more with other critters. Often we hunt areas that lay out similar to a checker board in that one section is posted the next we can hunt. So with running deer and shooting more than one extra ammo is sometimes needed to stop deer before they escape to posted land, swamps etc. My mod 94 holds 9 and my shotgun holds 8.  I agree with Old Syco,  it should be my right to have a 1000 rd mag. if I desire one.Yep i noted that in the op.

[SharonAnne]

the highest capacity magazine that I need is the highest capacity that is made. just cuz.

[mcwoodduck]

Like I posted it's not about the law it's what is pratical.    the extra weight will slow down reaction time in some situations . The cost is a factor , the size is another . And yes in full auto larger capacity mags work better .
 as for drain lines with nipples , once saw a waste stack drop thru. the floor and get hooked up with 17 45's and 32 inches of pipe . Guy was to lazy to crawl out and get the needed pipe. He went to work some other place .

I think Mag capacity that sticks out past the mag well in a handgun is excessive. 
I think a rifle mag of 20 rounds of 308 or 30-06 is about the right weight keeping the rifle under 10 pounds.
I think 20 to 30 rounds for a 223 keeps most rifles under 9 pounds.
A rifle weighing more than 10 pounds will wear the shooter out just carrying it for the day.  Think about your hunting rifle and how often you have it slung.  A survival rifle has to be in your hands.

[DECKAPE]

i want what ever the gubmnt  deosnt want me to have....period

[SharonAnne]

I want what I CAN have because it is my right under the Second Amendment

[Lloyd Smale]

like was said the problem with this is no to people think the same or even use there guns for the exact same thing. When im benching an ar i use a 20 round mag and have many of them but when my gun is propped up against the wall in the bedroom its loaded with a 30 rounder. Why. Because i dont have any 40 rounders. Other then bench shooting i see no advantage to a 20 round mag. Hunting in michigan doesnt leave a choise. Your limited to 5 rounds total. Personaly i think its one of those things that we all should be standing behind with NO COMPROMISE! Even one gun owner on an internet fourm saying he doesnt feel there needed because he doesnt use them hurts us all. Dont you understand that once they get a mag capasity or ban some certain guns it just means there going to now have time to chip away at something else.

[SHOOTALL]

This topic has proved the crazyness of our times . All was ask is how much we need , As noted it depends on what you are doing and where you are doing it. The topic op noted it was not a debate about the battle over hi cap mags  but what each of us really needs or more so what we use.
 I don't believe mag capacity should be restricted , or type of weapon for that matter. But I just don't have a need at this time in my life to hunt with a drum mag. I like a 20 rounder for home protection or even a 30 rounder maybe but past that it gets to the point it slows reaction time down for me. I like extended mags on shotguns also. As for hand guns the mag that comes with the gun is standard to me so it is fine. Limiting standard mags to lower capacity seems well dumb as several can be carried . Will the magazine police then limit number of mags one can have with them ?

[Old Syko]

Kinda like sitting a jury when inadmissible evidence is brought forth.  The jury is then told to disregard said evidence.  Simply ain't gonna happen!  The times in which we now live along with the crap we are bombarded with daily make this not possible and to think otherwise is just silly.  Long story short, I will continue to use what I deem proper for the job at hand.

[Lloyd Smale]

Got to agree with syko. You cant bring a topic like that up these days without expecting some personal opinions on the big picture. Also for the most part all anyone has posted is the fact that there needs may be different from the next guy. that need may be based on how many shots are fired at one time doing a specific thing or be based on how many shoots POSSIBLY could be shot. Or just on what a guy wants to have to make himself comfortable.

[Swampman]

I prefer the 20 round mags over all the others.

[Buckskin]

If I had a Glock I would NEED the third item down here on Bills Gun Shop Website!

http://www.billsgs.com/

As I said before "need" is a funny word...

[SharonAnne]

Buckskin you surprised me. I was expecting a 33 rd 9mm mag. A 50 round drum looks bad, so there fore it needs to be banned because it LOOKS bad.  It would be fun with a Glock 18!

[Bugflipper]

How large a capacity magazine do you need - to defend yourself against a unjust and oppressive government, you need exactly what they have whether it is 20, 30, 40 or 50 or 100.  Whatever they use is exactly what you need, period.
 
For personal sport or hunting - you decide on how many rounds you want to carry.

But they have real assault weapons, machine guns, fighter jets, tanks, helicopters, bombs and missiles. So no hope of common folks defending themselves from the govt.

[SharonAnne]

if the military Commanders decide to ignore their oaths to the Constitution which the CiC already has, and turn the heavy weapons of the military on its Citizens then the Country is lost. Mass murder of Citizens is the act of monsters the like of Hitler, Stalin, Amin and dozens of their ilk. However, even Hitler and Stalin disarmed the populace before turning the military loose on the citizenry.

With only pistols, to start, the Poles of the Warsaw Ghetto held off the SS for so long Hitler finally just had the Warsaw Ghetto burned to the ground rather than try any longer to suppress the Ghetto.

Yes, with small arms you cannot stop a major military, but although they can kill you, they cannot defeat you.

[BBF]

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But they have real assault weapons, machine guns, fighter jets, tanks, helicopters, bombs and missiles. So no hope of common folks defending themselves from the govt.

Exactly what I'm thinking. Yes I know the military isn't supposed to  be used  at home.You've had a little example of that in Texas some time ago.

[Empty Quiver]

Old Syko has it right, need has nothing to do with it. I certainly don't want my needs to effect the needs of others.


What do I find useful for me? (a better question in my opinion, as using the term need is playing their ball game) In a carry pistol I find I am happy with about 8, with an additional mag for those insecure days. The gun itself is lighter and the narrow grip is more comfortable, carrying an extra mag as a person is supposed to do is much less cumbersome. I tend to scare the women folk and chilrens with a 15 round mag in my pocket.


Yes, I find a thirty round mag awkward for most purposes, the twenty rounders are fine. Additional twenty's fit in a pocket better, and again are lighter and less likely to drag my pants down.


What I need is a belt fed, crew served weapon, mounted in the cupola. But I don't think that qualifies as a magazine.