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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #60 on: February 10, 2013, 06:36:57 AM »
I am not sure but if the argument is that you never find a dead one ...well how many dead  bear do you find in the woods.... were I live there are loads of bear . You see bear crossing roads weekly if not daily at times ... I have NEVER just found one in the woods and I am in the woods literally every day . I know they die, I know that they even get hit by cars and run off in the woods to eventually die... still never find dead ones just laying around... That does not mean that they do not exist . Swamp Rooster
In the entire history of modern man not one credible, undeniable, scrap of evidence? We have bones of many dinosaurs, physical evidence of several ancient predecessors of modern man but none of this bigfoot?


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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #61 on: February 10, 2013, 06:38:23 AM »
In the woods everything get eaten by something. As far as skeletons you guys are just not paying attention. I've found both bear and cougar remains. But even those quickly get consumed. But they are there for a while.  ;)

As far as bigfoot goes, there are too many sightings all around the world, by reputable people, for it to be all a hoax. Every culture has legends that are similar concerning bigfoot type creatures. Most people groups that live close to the earth are sensitive to spiritual manifestations. There are only 2 spiritual forces. God & Satan, God is good Satan is evil. Everything good comes from God. All evil comes from Satan. God is getting ready to take back this earth that Adam & Eve sold their birthright on to Satan. I believe all these demonic manifestations are sent by Satan to desensitize the world to the horrors that are to come. If you want more. Read revelations.  ;)

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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #62 on: February 10, 2013, 06:46:55 AM »
Because if there were remains and evidence then people in trailer parks wouldn't have anything to argue about.  Duh.
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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #63 on: February 11, 2013, 10:04:00 AM »
Nonsense!  They eat their own.

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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #64 on: February 12, 2013, 01:16:23 AM »
So corbanzo, are you calling us " trailer park trash "?   ;D

Well maybe your right. But I prefer to be know by the right name. "Redneck"  ;) since I've never actually lived in a trailer park.

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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #65 on: February 12, 2013, 01:18:11 AM »
Say Mikey, why do you think they eat their dead?  :o

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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #66 on: February 12, 2013, 01:48:19 AM »
 Well with no proof , this alternate demission  ::) talk and next a lecture on matter anti-matter I suppose is comming . This is giving Trl. Parks a bad name . Just because trailors are often alum. doesn't mean they work like alum hats.  ;D
 
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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #67 on: February 13, 2013, 02:59:07 AM »
pastorp:  because no bigfoot skeletal remains, dna, roadkill or burial sites have ever been found.  If they didn't eat their own kind we would have found lots of parts and the like by now.  I think that skunk-ape odor often associated with the bigfoot keeps scavangers away in the same manner it frightens off humans but may smell pretty tasty to them.  Either that or they carry their dead into a underground volcanic chute and commit the bodies to the earth's hot molten magma (as Dr. Evil would say) so that none will ever know....  However, they could also become a interdimentioanl fart upon death and simply vanish, leaving behind that tell-tale odor.....

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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #68 on: February 13, 2013, 04:08:48 AM »
 "An interdimensional fart"...mmmmmmmCouldBE!! ha :)

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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #69 on: February 13, 2013, 04:48:19 PM »
Well Mikey, I suppose you could be right.  :o something to think about anyway.  ;)


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Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #70 on: February 16, 2013, 10:33:53 PM »
Though I've never lived in a trailer... When I was in college I date a girl who's father owned a trailer park...  So I was almost in line to be the king!  Hahaha

Inter dimensional fart.... That explains all of it!  Pure genius. Good work fellas.
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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #71 on: February 17, 2013, 02:33:54 AM »
Big foot and the Tooth Fairy are first cousins and I`ve yet to see the Tooth Fairy.....either.    :o
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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #72 on: February 17, 2013, 08:56:10 AM »
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As far as bigfoot goes, there are too many sightings all around the world, by reputable people, for it to be all a hoax. Every culture has legends that are similar concerning bigfoot type creatures. Most people groups that live close to the earth are sensitive to spiritual manifestations. There are only 2 spiritual forces. God & Satan, God is good Satan is evil. Everything good comes from God. All evil comes from Satan. God is getting ready to take back this earth that Adam & Eve sold their birthright on to Satan. I believe all these demonic manifestations are sent by Satan to desensitize the world to the horrors that are to come. If you want more. Read revelations.  ;)

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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #73 on: February 17, 2013, 09:32:15 PM »
Of course Ray I have no proof, other than all the demonic fascination in books & TV programs. But it is sure evident that things are happening around the world and I have seen other things that can be explained in no other way.  :o I do know from long study of Gods word that the worlds ( as we know it ) expiration date is close at hand.  ;)

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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #74 on: February 18, 2013, 03:04:03 AM »
The reason he cannot be found is hes hiding in plain sight.
They keep looking in the pacific north woods.
He moved to Hollywood a while back.

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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #75 on: February 20, 2013, 06:43:43 AM »
Bigfoot believers have a certain knack for coming up with excuses for why these animals have to exist no matter the lack of any evidence what so ever. We haven't found any bones, bodies, crap, nothing. The rational person says, "well they must not exist." The bigfoot believer says" well they must be multi dimensionsl beings not of this earth." Really? For the believers there is always an excuse. The difference between bigfoot and all those other animals that were thought to be extinct? We found them again, hell we even have pictures that aren't blurry. Why haven't we found a body, "well they eat or bury their dead" ok then why haven't we found a pile of bigfoot crap? Do they eat that too? Come on folks.
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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #76 on: February 20, 2013, 07:31:56 AM »
difference between bigfoot and all those other animals that were thought to be extinct? We found them again, hell we even have pictures that aren't blurry. Why haven't we found a body, "well they eat or bury their dead" ok then why haven't we found a pile of bigfoot crap? Do they eat that too? Come on folks.
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They bury it?  They use old deer pelvis bones to dig latrines. :)

I am sorry to admit, but I am hooked on Finding Bigfoot.  I always love to debunk so much of the BS that Moneymaker comes up with.  He always has an excuse and comes up with the wonderful ideas of how bigfoots think.  They walk in single file lines to hide their numbers.  They bed down using pine straw.  If it exist, it is a wild animal and I doubt wild animals have any concept of a track.  Just funny to see him grasp.  He spends more time trying to explain things and convince others than sticking with the facts.  "They imitate other animal sounds to communicate to fool us".  Now do they really believe that?  It is entertaining.

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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #77 on: February 20, 2013, 09:55:03 AM »
They exist.

They are flesh & blood primates.  They are bi-pedal. Like any other higher primate, they have a rather high level of intelligence.

They tend to be reclusive and know how to move w/ a high degree of stealth. 

Actually, there is a wealth of physical evidence. There are footprints w/ dermal ridges and sweat pores.  The dermal ridges run in the opposite direction from human feet. Dermal ridges and sweat pores cannot be carved into wooden "fake prints".

There has been DNA samples done on hair. It comes back as "Un-classified primate".

Scientists who study human locomotion (how men & women walk) have examined the Patterson film. The subject does NOT walk like either a man or a woman. It has a unique walk called "the mountain gait".

There are no less then THREE men who claim to have worn a Hollywood-created suit on that day for Patterson to perpetrate a fraud. Must have been crowded in that suit! Maybe they were all Gay men?

The muscle groups can be seen moving under the skin in the Patterson film. The guy who did  all the costumes & makeup for Planet of the Apes stated there was no techknowledgy in 1966 to get that effect.

Fecal matter has been collected. The issue is DNA Degrades in fecal matter in a few hours unless it's refrigerated. An adult BF leaves a pile of fecal matter that would fill a average size bucket! HOWEVER, they have found a unique parasite residing in the Fecal matter, which is unknown to other animals in the woods. Scientists have noted the "twisted shape" of the fecal pile is unique and unknown.

They are omnivorous. They like organ meat, especially deer liver. They will tear apart a deer to get the liver.

I do not think they are cannibals. I think they bury their dead. The woods and all the little nibblers in it will quickly reclaim a lone animal that drops dead.

See the BFRO Site: NJ 1971 Essex county for my siting report.



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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #78 on: February 20, 2013, 10:01:17 AM »
There are deer bones , cow bones , dog bones and other critters where I hunt see them layning in the woods for years sometimes but no BF. Look at the number of hunters that wander the woods each season and no one finds a bone at least ? Really ? Does BF plan his death so no one can find his bones ? so no one can find his grave ?
 
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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #79 on: February 20, 2013, 10:17:34 AM »
There are deer bones , cow bones , dog bones and other critters where I hunt see them layning in the woods for years sometimes but no BF. Look at the number of hunters that wander the woods each season and no one finds a bone at least ? Really ? Does BF plan his death so no one can find his bones ? so no one can find his grave ?

SHOOTALL makes a logical point.

Here's the thing.  The best estimates are that there are between 2 and 6 thousand BF's between the US and Canada.

How many dogs, cows, deer, cats, raccoons etc are there between the US. & Canada?
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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #80 on: February 21, 2013, 04:33:17 AM »
Ok, I have a good question.  There are some great tracking dogs out there.  They have been proven to track people across streams wearing body scent suits and bio-suits.  Why the heck can't someone get a tracking dog to track them down?  Has it been tried?  How could a BF possibly escape the nose of a blood hound?  Especially when they have a terrible BO that everyone describes.

Get a good set of tracking dogs out to where there has been a recent siting.  He should be able to at least find some hair or where they have been hanging out.  Am I wrong?? 

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« Reply #81 on: February 21, 2013, 04:49:03 AM »
A better ? is in most cases there are always one or two critters in a group that are courious and come to man to see what they are. They often form a bond by being conditioned from feeding etc. It would look like out of 2-4 thousand at least one would have done so and been documented . ?????
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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #82 on: February 21, 2013, 04:50:05 AM »
But what if they are demonic manifestations and are eternal. They never die.  ;)

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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #83 on: February 21, 2013, 04:50:59 AM »
ROTFLMAO  ::)
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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #84 on: February 21, 2013, 05:15:45 AM »
They exist.

They are flesh & blood primates.  They are bi-pedal. Like any other higher primate, they have a rather high level of intelligence.

They tend to be reclusive and know how to move w/ a high degree of stealth. 

Actually, there is a wealth of physical evidence. There are footprints w/ dermal ridges and sweat pores.  The dermal ridges run in the opposite direction from human feet. Dermal ridges and sweat pores cannot be carved into wooden "fake prints".

There has been DNA samples done on hair. It comes back as "Un-classified primate".

Scientists who study human locomotion (how men & women walk) have examined the Patterson film. The subject does NOT walk like either a man or a woman. It has a unique walk called "the mountain gait".

There are no less then THREE men who claim to have worn a Hollywood-created suit on that day for Patterson to perpetrate a fraud. Must have been crowded in that suit! Maybe they were all Gay men?

The muscle groups can be seen moving under the skin in the Patterson film. The guy who did  all the costumes & makeup for Planet of the Apes stated there was no techknowledgy in 1966 to get that effect.

Fecal matter has been collected. The issue is DNA Degrades in fecal matter in a few hours unless it's refrigerated. An adult BF leaves a pile of fecal matter that would fill a average size bucket! HOWEVER, they have found a unique parasite residing in the Fecal matter, which is unknown to other animals in the woods. Scientists have noted the "twisted shape" of the fecal pile is unique and unknown.

They are omnivorous. They like organ meat, especially deer liver. They will tear apart a deer to get the liver.

I do not think they are cannibals. I think they bury their dead. The woods and all the little nibblers in it will quickly reclaim a lone animal that drops dead.

See the BFRO Site: NJ 1971 Essex county for my siting report.
First of all you speak of bigfoot as if it is a real, proven to exist animal by stating all of your information in a factual way. Nothing you say is fact because bigfoot is not proven to exist. This being said everything you presented is opinion at best. Dermal ridges are in no way proof of a bigfoot track. These have been debunked several times, and have been recreated with a low degree of difficulty. You are correct in stating that dna samples have been analyzed from hair. You are in-correct in stating that they came back as unclassified primate. Dna samples do not come back as a simple phrase. Yes, those samples could come back as "unclassified", but that simply means contamination was present.
The Patterson film has been proven to be a hoax in more ways than one. Patterson was a known con man, with ties to the movie industry. Not only have the person wearing the suit come forward, but the people that made the suit came forward as well. The entire story can be read using a simple google search. The "mountain gait" is a term used in the horse world and is not exclusive to bigfoot. I have seen the patterson film numerous times and no muscle groups can be seen moving under the skin. Believers will see what they want to see. As far as fecal matter is concerned, dna does degrade in fecal matter fairly fast, and fecal matter has been found that was attributed to bigfoot, but that in no way means that it was from a bigfoot. To my knowledge the information about the parasite is heresay and a "credible" link to more information about that would be appreciated.
Any information about what they eat, how they eat or how many their are is also not credible as no evidence exists to substantiate those claims. That is all just a matter of believers opinions about something that has never been proven to exist. Also, for bigfoot reports to come from every state in the nation, and most every country in the world I would say that the population has to be far greater than 6000 animals. They also must of superhuman powers to be able to avoid trail cameras and all the high tech equipment being used today.
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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #85 on: February 21, 2013, 08:10:22 AM »
"They are omnivorous. They like organ meat, especially deer liver. They will tear apart a deer to get the liver."

This is a statement I have heard on finding BigFoot.  How do we know this?  Has someone actually watched one do this?  What is this "fact" based on?  If they had that much time to watch, why didn't they take pics? 

Finding a dead deer with the guts missing doesn't have to be a BigFoot, if it's stomach busted from gas, vultures tend to attack the soft tissue first so the would eat the liver and whatever else they could get their beaks on.  If someone came up on it and spooked the vultures (before they got to other body parts) it might look like it was ripped open and the liver removed.  Just sayin'.

I am not saying that they couldn't possibly exist, I am just saying what are the "known facts" to bigfoot hunters based on?  Real facts or speculation.  I think if the true believers would stick to the real provable facts instead of speculation, they would get more people to believe them.  Don't present a "fact" you can't back up with evidence.  Only present facts that the naysayers can't dispute.

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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #86 on: February 21, 2013, 10:27:03 AM »
Oh sorry, that was me man.  I started that myth.


I'm kinda big and hairy, and I like to gross kids out.  So last caribou we shot, I cut open the gut cavity and took a bite of jellified liver.  It was nice and warm and I wasn't wearing a shirt...   a school bus full of nuns saw it.  I tried to explain, but my mouth was full of raw liver so all that came out was.....


blllahhh  aaawwwwww rrrraaaawwrrrr nnooooommm nnoooommm llllooooobbbb


They screamed and got back on the bus, took the kids that were there with us with them.  It was a really sad sight.  Had to clean that dark liver blood out of my chest hair.  All in all turned out to be a bad day.  I'm sorry for any confusion.
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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #87 on: February 21, 2013, 10:33:23 AM »
around here if you see a dead critter from deer to old cow in most cases the stomach will be moving . It is the opposum eating from the inside out . They more times than not start at the butt go in and eat their way out.
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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #88 on: February 21, 2013, 10:37:26 AM »
Anyone else seeing a pattern ? Seems those who spend the least time in the woods see the most BF .
I predator hunt at night and have seen plenty of strange things and heard even more but nothing that would make me think BF. You haven't lived until an Owl decides he wants you for dinner while you are calling.
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Re: Why no Bigfoot skeletal remains/DNA/roadkill?
« Reply #89 on: February 22, 2013, 12:44:42 AM »
Lots of First Nation people believe the owl announces when your time is up.  ;)


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