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Butchering Hogs
« on: January 27, 2013, 10:06:11 AM »
With a little luck we'll finally get to go on our hog hunt in 2 weeks ( our first try was canceled because my buddy was to busy passing kidney stones to go the second was canceled by a snow storm )
any way my questions I've heard they are hard to skin any advice. also what about processing we're thinking sausage, brats, anything else?
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Re: Butchering Hogs
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2013, 10:51:04 AM »
I have only shot two, and my buddy shot one during the trip.  So I have butchered three hogs.
Skinning them is not hard.  I think it is easier than skinning a deer as teh hide is thicker and you can pull on it.
I keep a back pack with some things i have learned help.
I go to target and in the $1 aisle I get some hand wipes.
I also get some large kitchen gloves.  Makes it easier to gut the beast.
I keep soem water, large Zip lock bags (if you want to keep the heart and liver)
I have a good sharp knife on my belt but carry an extra in the bag.   
a gambril helps to butcher the pig but is not needed.  a broom handle has done a bunch of deer for me.
A bunch of freezer Zip loc bags, magic marker, a large cutting board and a large knife as well as a boning knife. 
Like the deer you start with the skin and then move up from the head pealing off major mussle groups.  Either bag them whole and mark them and when you get home you can trim them up and make select cuts.  Or you can do it at camp. 
I would suggest getting a book on butchering, read it ahead of time and photo copy the pig section keep it in a Zip lock bag (hands get a little bloody and it is easy to wipe off the bag than try to see through the  blood.
The back straps are the loins,  Inside along the back bone near the back legs is the tenderloin. 
The front shoulders made good BBQ off my last pig, and the hams I cut one up in to stew meat, and the other I made roasts out of.  I made Carnitas out of some of it.  MMM  I cook mine just like I would grocery store pig.  Like pork with a nutty flavor, really good as long as the meat is a nice pink color (my first hog I hit in the jaw and was an old gladiator pig and hte meat look Khaki color and was aweful) 
I have not made sausage out of mine.  I figure I have to get better at making sausage out of regular pork before I think I can make wild game sausage that is leaner than grocery store pork.
But you can try one of the sausage kits on some of it.  I would suggest keeping some Lard on hand.
 

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Re: Butchering Hogs
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2013, 10:52:52 AM »
You can't just peel the skin like you can on a deer.  Other than that, it's about the same.  I've had sausage made from wild hog and it's pretty good, but I've never made it myself.  We would quarter them and then put the quarters in an ice chest and cover them with ice.  The next day I would drain the water and blood and add more ice.  After two days, you'll have some nice, tender meat.  A bit of salt will speed up the process, but I'm cheap and have more time than money.

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Re: Butchering Hogs
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2013, 11:00:35 AM »
On you tube there is a guy gibing a demo on cleaning a hog in 15 minutes.It is very good.I would sure wear gloves.Good luck

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Re: Butchering Hogs
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2013, 02:00:15 PM »
You can't just peel the skin like you can on a deer.  Other than that, it's about the same.  I've had sausage made from wild hog and it's pretty good, but I've never made it myself.  We would quarter them and then put the quarters in an ice chest and cover them with ice.  The next day I would drain the water and blood and add more ice.  After two days, you'll have some nice, tender meat.  A bit of salt will speed up the process, but I'm cheap and have more time than money.
That's good to know that they skin easy the processor we talked to said they were hard to skin. They said there was no membrane betwen the skin and meat and you had to cut and trim every inch of the way.
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Re: Butchering Hogs
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2013, 03:15:40 PM »
when possible, the folks in my group take
'em to the car wash and wash all the caked
up mud off with the "rinse" setting before
skinning. (no wax please)


it's easier to me to take lengthwise strips
of skin off rather than skinning like a whitetail.


keep your steel handy, cuz i always steel a lot
when feral hog skinning


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Re: Butchering Hogs
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2013, 04:26:20 PM »
Charlie T, maybe you misunderstood.  They do not skin like deer.  You do have to use your knife more.  You usually cannot peel the skin as you can on a deer.  But that does not mean they are difficult.  I think goats are harder, but a pig does take more work than a deer.

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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2013, 03:50:59 AM »
We butcher hogs every year. Just did 8 two weeks ago. We used to just skin them, but this last time we scalded them instead. If you can possible find a way to do this, it makes the process much easier. Skinning a hog is a pain in the rear, and if you can leave the skin on it makes life a lot easier and keeps the meat cleaner. Much easier to take the skin off the smaller pieces and you can leave the skin on the bacon like the pros do.
 
After skinning or scalding, split the hog down the back with a meat saw or a sawzall. Allow to cool overnight, then follow directions from video below.  This is the easiest method by far. Much easier than trying to cut muscle groups off of the carcass and much cleaner looking.  When you are done you will have your front shoulders, your pork chops (which I de-bone), bacons, ribs and hams. All in six cuts of your saw, plus some trimming.
 
If you don't have a meat saw for this, just use a clean hacksaw, works almost as good.  Don't use painted blades though...
 
http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-butcher-a-pig
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Re: Butchering Hogs
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2013, 04:00:47 AM »
 Feral hogs usually have a huge layer of fat between the skin and the meat, and if skinned like a deer, you will use your knife more. My father ( and his generation) skinned them like a catfish. Take a box cutter ( always a good idea as the dried mud, etc. and coarse hair can ruin a good knife, might as well use a box cutter!)  so you cut only through the skin, ring the skin behind the ears. then cut the skin in two inch strips. Strip off the skin with pliers or vice grip. This will leave the fat intact, which my dad would trim off to make lard. Now, since its been proven that eating fried food ( especially with lard) can clog up ones arteries, most people don't render fat anymore, ha. But you can still trim off the fat easier  that way. "What's on the outside comes off, what's on the inside comes out" Dad would say, ha. Now, the Eurasian hogs my friend and I shot last year in Michigan were very different. They didn't have near as much fat, and the meat was very lean. They are also the very best wild pork I have ever eaten, and believe me, I have eaten tons (not literally, figuratively, ha) of pork. I love it BBQ, sausage, or fried ( sop it in Cane sugar syrup or molasses at breakfast, wow!) Shoot that hog at the neck/skull junction if you can, makes it easier for butchering. Have a ball, wish I was going with you!

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Re: Butchering Hogs
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2013, 08:10:36 AM »
Charlie T, maybe you misunderstood.  They do not skin like deer.  You do have to use your knife more.  You usually cannot peel the skin as you can on a deer.  But that does not mean they are difficult.  I think goats are harder, but a pig does take more work than a deer.
Yeah I think I was reading what I wanted to hear.
Would we be better to skin them right away or would waiting a day till we get back home be ok?
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Re: Butchering Hogs
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2013, 09:52:25 AM »
CharlieT, I've done both and I don't think it matters that much. 

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Re: Butchering Hogs
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2013, 04:27:19 PM »
Charlie T, maybe you misunderstood.  They do not skin like deer.  You do have to use your knife more.  You usually cannot peel the skin as you can on a deer.  But that does not mean they are difficult.  I think goats are harder, but a pig does take more work than a deer.
Yeah I think I was reading what I wanted to hear.
Would we be better to skin them right away or would waiting a day till we get back home be ok?
I was the one that said they skin easier.
I think the thicker hide and the layer of fat, you have less cuts though the skin with the knife and once the skin is past the hips it seems really easy, Pull slice along the skin and move the knife.  As the knife dulls, you simply grab another and keep going. 

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Re: Butchering Hogs
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2013, 01:31:14 AM »
I've skinned hundreds upon hundreds of hogs and to me, it is JUST LIKE skinning a deer.  No more knife work on a hog than a deer.  I don't try to use everything except the squeel.  I peel off ticks, dirt, hide, and fat together and toss it with the viscera.  I use a gambrel.  Hang, gut and skin like you would a deer.  I use a ball peen to hammer an Old Hickery steel knife downward to split the pelvis and backbone.  Works great!  I sometimes separate at the shoulders; at the ribs; and at the hams for BBQ'ing.  The knuckle in each leg and one of the vertebrae of the neck are logical end points.  I have had sausage made from dozens upon dozens of hogs and prefer Cajun (spiced) to milder Country or Italian.  I let the Processor debone and cut loins and hams into "strip steaks" or roasts.  It's all good...

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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2013, 02:41:39 AM »
Charlie T, maybe you misunderstood.  They do not skin like deer.  You do have to use your knife more.  You usually cannot peel the skin as you can on a deer.  But that does not mean they are difficult.  I think goats are harder, but a pig does take more work than a deer.
Yeah I think I was reading what I wanted to hear.
Would we be better to skin them right away or would waiting a day till we get back home be ok?
I was the one that said they skin easier.
I think the thicker hide and the layer of fat, you have less cuts though the skin with the knife and once the skin is past the hips it seems really easy, Pull slice along the skin and move the knife.  As the knife dulls, you simply grab another and keep going.

Knife never dulls when skinning a deer... Fat is hard on knives.
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Re: Butchering Hogs
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2013, 06:49:27 AM »
 :)  Howdy! Where I hog hunt there are meat processors not far away. In the past I just field dressed the hog then took it to the processor. Up until recently they did not charge extra for skinning and quartering. One meat processor now charges $30 extra if you bring in a hog that is only field dressed. Anyway, I have been pleased with their work. They can make some really good sausage! I'm just not set up to do my own butchering. I have fond memories of my grandparents doing it.  Always, Gene
 
 
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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2013, 03:36:51 PM »
For the first time in probably 15 years I took an animal to a processor. It was the bear I shot this last fall, and had it processed because the outfitter that we went with had a locker plant and we were not set up for dealing with it at camp. I will never ever take my game to a processor again (said it 15 years ago also, but needed a reminder I guess).  They had a lot of bears to do and it showed. I shot my bear with an arrow and the first package of burger that I opened I found a big chunk of lead in it. Very disappointing to say the least. Not only that, it just didn't have the care put into it that I do with my game. and to boot it was pretty expensive.
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Re: Butchering Hogs
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2013, 05:27:40 PM »
that's a shame to hear of how they
treated you.
a lot of processors do that way.
they'll wait 'till they get so many
of this animal and then do them on
an assembly line.
you get so many pounds back for what you
brought in, but like you say, it may be
parts of every different one.
the other guy may have let the guts stay in all
day long, or got the carcass full of dirt and
hair, or got the glands inside to stink it up, etc.


i never let anyone else handle my hard-earned
meat. :(
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Re: Butchering Hogs
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2013, 09:32:32 AM »
Charlie T, maybe you misunderstood.  They do not skin like deer.  You do have to use your knife more.  You usually cannot peel the skin as you can on a deer.  But that does not mean they are difficult.  I think goats are harder, but a pig does take more work than a deer.
Yeah I think I was reading what I wanted to hear.
Would we be better to skin them right away or would waiting a day till we get back home be ok?
I was the one that said they skin easier.
I think the thicker hide and the layer of fat, you have less cuts though the skin with the knife and once the skin is past the hips it seems really easy, Pull slice along the skin and move the knife.  As the knife dulls, you simply grab another and keep going.

Knife never dulls when skinning a deer... Fat is hard on knives.
I find it easier to just grab another knife than to grab the steel and straiting the blade. 
This is where I will use a folder, but to gut I use a strait blade. Fixed blades are easier to wash off and not have blood or gunk stuck in it that makes your front pocket stink a week later after gutting.

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Re: Butchering Hogs
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2013, 09:58:02 AM »
  Back on the farm we used to use the scalding method.  A 55 gal drum over a fire will work to dip them in ...add some wood ashes to the boiling water..it will help to loosen the hair.  Then scrape them off with what we always called "hog candles"  or hog scrapers.
  See photo below..  to use the scraper, hold the wooden part in your fist with the disc shaped scraper under the edge of your palm and small finger.  Scrape the hair by a motion that would resemble pounding your fist on a desk..The disc will pull the hair out well if properly scalded.
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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2013, 10:33:23 AM »
  Back on the farm we used to use the scalding method.  A 55 gal drum over a fire will work to dip them in ...add some wood ashes to the boiling water..it will help to loosen the hair.  Then scrape them off with what we always called "hog candles"  or hog scrapers.
  See photo below..  to use the scraper, hold the wooden part in your fist with the disc shaped scraper under the edge of your palm and small finger.  Scrape the hair by a motion that would resemble pounding your fist on a desk..The disc will pull the hair out well if properly scalded.

We forgot to add the ashes, remembered as we were dipping the last hog. Important to get the temperature right, should be about 150-160 degrees and take out when hair pulls out easily.  If it's in too long hair will set. 
 
I gotta get a few of those hog scrapers, we made some that worked, but those look easier on the wrists than what we used...
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« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2013, 03:41:00 AM »
Yep; wood ashes contain lye..which looosens the hair..   
    Source for a hog scraper or a "candle" as Dad used to call them..  Well, there's the auctions... or  you can go to Lehman's Hardware, the folks who service the Amish.   http://non-electric.lehmans.com/search#w=hog+scraper&modaf=rn:cat2:toolsfarm_handtools
 
  The one Lehmans has looks more decorator than heavy duty.  A fellow could try to make of his own with some dished steel item, backed by a big washer on either side.  being a blacksmith, I would make my own from scratch..  Even the one Lehman's sells should have a "fender washer" under that screw head in the steel cup.
  Lehman's Hardware is in Kidron, Ohio..lots of folks just enjoy 'cruising their catalog"...lot's of old timey stuff:
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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2013, 06:58:48 AM »
 My Dad/Granddad only scalded hogs when they were going to make "Cracklings" and render out the fat too. Most folks don't make Cracklings anymore ( or Crackling Bread either) My folks ate everything but the squeal!

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« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2013, 10:15:09 AM »
I like cracklings from hogs as well as black bear.  :o  Tasty snack.  ;)


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« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2013, 07:12:06 AM »
Well we went on our hunt but struck out. My buddy shot and missed one at 50 yds but I never seen a hog. But we did have a blast and will be going back again.
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« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2013, 07:56:26 AM »
Well we went on our hunt but struck out. My buddy shot and missed one at 50 yds but I never seen a hog. But we did have a blast and will be going back again.

Bummer, but makes butchering easy...
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« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2013, 06:01:35 AM »
Well we went on our hunt but struck out. My buddy shot and missed one at 50 yds but I never seen a hog. But we did have a blast and will be going back again.
My first hog hunt had me missing, and missing, and missing.  The guys I hunt with have a $5 a miss rule.  I think I was up to $40 by the time I finally hit one. 
Better luck next time. 

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« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2013, 12:15:17 PM »
Yeah it took me a while to get used to all the movement.  We finally learned to not try to lead them like you would birds.  We started shooting both eyes open and holding on a spot out in front of them.  Hold steady and when they enter the scope, squeeze.  Our hit rate went up dramatically.


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Re: Butchering Hogs
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2013, 02:21:42 AM »
I butcherd out 5 hogs this past deer season and I must be doing something wrong. For every hog I skinned out, I could have skinned and quartered 3 deer. :)

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« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2013, 05:46:36 AM »
I butcherd out 5 hogs this past deer season and I must be doing something wrong. For every hog I skinned out, I could have skinned and quartered 3 deer. :)

That is why they are scalded...
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Re: Butchering Hogs
« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2013, 07:53:05 AM »
What kind of rig would you use to scald a 150 lb hog. Little ones I can see doing it in a large barrel or tub, but what to use for the big ones?