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Morsi aide, holocaust was a hoax cooked up by America.
« on: February 01, 2013, 05:15:05 PM »
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 Morsi Aide: Holocaust Was a Hoax Cooked Up by the U.S. A key figure in Morsi's government has called the Holocaust a hoax cooked up by U.S. intelligence operatives.  AAFont Size By Elad Benari First Publish: 1/30/2013, 3:15 AM
  Mohammed Morsi Mohammed Morsi AFP photo  A key figure in Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi's government has called the Holocaust a hoax cooked up by U.S. intelligence operatives, and claimed the six million Jews who were killed by Nazis simply moved to the U.S., Fox News reports.
The claims made by Fathi Shihab-Eddim, a senior figure close to President Morsi who is now responsible for appointing the editors of all state-run Egyptian newspapers, came as the world marked Holocaust Remembrance Day on January 27.
“The myth of the Holocaust is an industry that America invented,” Shihab-Eddim said, according to Fox News.
“U.S. intelligence agencies in cooperation with their counterparts in allied nations during World War II created it [the Holocaust] to destroy the image of their opponents in Germany, and to justify war and massive destruction against military and civilian facilities of the Axis powers, and especially to hit Hiroshima and Nagasaki with the atomic bomb,” Shihab-Eddim added.
 
Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center in New York, said Shihab-Eddin's comments were as troubling as they were ridiculous.
“Fathi goes on to claim that the six million Jews all really moved to the United States during the war (and oddly no one noticed) and that the number of Jews killed in the war was about the number who died in traffic accidents,” Greenfield wrote in Frontpagemag.com.
Efraim Zuroff, Israel Director of the Jerusalem-based Simon Weisenthal Center told Fox News the remarks show a dangerous, but common, mindset.
 
“Obviously, if a person in that position makes that ridiculous claim it is of concern,” Zuroff said. “The sad truth is that these views are relatively common in the Arab world and are the result of ignorance on one hand and of government-sponsored Holocaust denial on the other hand.”
 
Zuroff said the sinister statements by the Morsi aide should give other nations pause for thought in evaluating their relationships with the new government in Cairo.
“Government-sponsored Holocaust denial is the most dangerous...as opposed to attempts by individuals to convince people that the Holocaust did not take place," Zuroff said. "When it comes with a strict Islamic interpretation and one which is basically anti-Semitic, then it becomes much more dangerous.”
The latest Holocaust denial from a senior Egyptian figure comes hot on the heels of the much-publicized comments made by Morsi in 2010, that Jews are “the descendants of apes and pigs.” The remarks were exposed in a video distributed by the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI).
 
Morsi later claimed that his virulent anti-Semitic comments were taken out of context.
"The president stressed they were taken from comments on the Israeli aggression against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, and stressed the need to put the remarks in the right context," said a statement from Morsi’s office.
MEMRI has since released another video in which Morsi is seen calling for Arabs to raise their children on hatred of Jews.
Mohammed el-Baradei, a leading figure in Egypt’s secular opposition and formerly the director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, spoke out against Morsi’s remarks and his assertion that his comments had been misinterpreted.
 
“We are all aware that those statements were not taken out of context and that this discourse is very common among a large number of clerics and members of Islamist groups," El-Baradei said, according to Fox News.
"Apart from the remarks themselves, I am calling upon the person who made them to courageously admit either the real stance he and the Muslim Brotherhood and their followers adopt, or how mistaken they had been for all those years,” he added.

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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2013, 05:19:44 PM »
Hell, this guy is so far out there that his statements don't even deserve discussion.
 
 
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2013, 02:24:33 AM »
I give up, what does it matter to a muzzie whether or not, that nazi killed Jews??
It seems to me that they would praise the nazi for killing them.
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2013, 09:38:43 PM »
I give up, what does it matter to a muzzie whether or not, that nazi killed Jews??
It seems to me that they would praise the nazi for killing them.


I'm sure they did...


In 1932, Hitler was given the name Abu Ali in Syria, and Muhammad Haidar in Egypt.[14] Adolf Hitler was celebrated in large parts of the Arab world, and some newspapers even likened him to the Prophet. Erwin Rommel was almost as popular as Hitler. Arabs Shouting of "Heil Rommel" was a common greeting in Arab countries. Many Arabs thought the Germans would free them from the rule of the old colonial powers France and Britain. After France's defeat to Nazi Germany in 1940, some Arabs were chanting against the French and British around the streets of Damascus: "No more Monsieur, no more Mister, Allah's in Heaven and Hitler's on earth."[15] Posters with Arabic sayings: "In heaven God is your ruler, on earth Hitler" were frequently displayed in shops in the towns of Syria.[16]


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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2013, 12:37:16 AM »
 my father had a good friend,and when ww-2 came my father went into the navy and his friend went into the army, and he was in on the liberation of one of the death camps and the pictures he took that i saw as a young man still haunt me. how any one can say it never happened is beyond me. eastbank.

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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2013, 12:59:18 AM »
  Satan's gang have had a grudge  against the Jews ever since God chose them as His own..
   
  Rather like the fans of  Liverpool  or Manchester United.. in UK football...  Your perspective comes from who you're rooting for!
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2013, 11:15:19 AM »
I had an uncle who was involved in the liberation of two Nazi concentration camps.  It affected him for the rest of his life.  I would have loved for this idiot to have met my uncle and try to tell him it was a hoax.

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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2013, 11:32:14 AM »
  Don't forget... These are the same "good folks" who want to destroy the pyramids.. ;D ;D
 
  http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/07/islamic-clerics-call-to-destroy-great-pyramids-in-egypt/
 
   http://www.aina.org/news/2012071094423.htm
 
  Failing that, (read last paragraph) they want to cover the pyramids with wax!!! :o :P ;D ;D ;D
 
 
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2013, 06:36:54 AM »
I had an uncle who was involved in the liberation of two Nazi concentration camps.  It affected him for the rest of his life.  I would have loved for this idiot to have met my uncle and try to tell him it was a hoax.

Really?  Was Auschwitz one of the camps your uncle liberated?

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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2013, 11:02:59 AM »
I had an uncle who was involved in the liberation of two Nazi concentration camps.  It affected him for the rest of his life.  I would have loved for this idiot to have met my uncle and try to tell him it was a hoax.

Really?  Was Auschwitz one of the camps your uncle liberated?

How about this bozo?  She played a part during Schindler's List, but was traumatized.  What about the Palestinians?  I would say they too have been traumatized by the Holocaust.  Maybe this actress would like to trade places with a Palestinian to see how she likes it.     

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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2013, 05:21:58 AM »
From TM;
   " One thing to ponder is if the jews remained in German cities, or Polish cities, and given the fact that every major German city and town was fire bombed, would more have been killed and starved_ _regardless of what the real number is."
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  TM..you are TOO funny..
       Sure those Jews remained in the German cities ..and countryside.  They were all either under SS guard, in the concentration camps, in the ovens,... or in the ground.. they HAD to stick around!   No choice!  ;) ;D ;D ..
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2013, 05:27:39 AM »
I had an uncle who was involved in the liberation of two Nazi concentration camps.  It affected him for the rest of his life.  I would have loved for this idiot to have met my uncle and try to tell him it was a hoax.

Really?  Was Auschwitz one of the camps your uncle liberated?
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   My brother's in-laws were liberated from Auschwitz.  They weren't Jews , but Poles.  Jews were not the only ones the Nazis tossed into those camps, but they were the majority.  His mother-in-law is still alive and can recount the issues.. so deniers are lying ..and I am assured of it by this sweet old lady..among the many other personal witness evidences.
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2013, 05:51:38 AM »
I had an uncle who was involved in the liberation of two Nazi concentration camps.  It affected him for the rest of his life.  I would have loved for this idiot to have met my uncle and try to tell him it was a hoax.

Really?  Was Auschwitz one of the camps your uncle liberated?
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   My brother's in-laws were liberated from Auschwitz.  They weren't Jews , but Poles.  Jews were not the only ones the Nazis tossed into those camps, but they were the majority.  His mother-in-law is still alive and can recount the issues.. so deniers are lying ..and I am assured of it by this sweet old lady..among the many other personal witness evidences.

The reason their are revisionists or "deniers" is there were other events before, during and after the Holocaust that simultaneously gets ignored, like the mass murder by Soviet Jews in the Gulag.  Maybe the push about the Holocaust is to act as a cover or smoke screen for one group to cover for the crimes they committed on the other end.  Ask Lithuania. 
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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2013, 05:55:29 AM »
  No surprise the muslim brotherhood would deny the holocaust.  If they did, they would have to admit culpability of the muslim world:
 
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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2013, 06:01:58 AM »
Adolf Hitler was celebrated in large parts of the Arab world
full disclosure would also include that he was celebrated in large parts of the Christian world. He came to power in a Christian country - the birthplace of protestantism. Yep.
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« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2013, 12:15:15 PM »
Adolf Hitler was celebrated in large parts of the Arab world
full disclosure would also include that he was celebrated in large parts of the Christian world. He came to power in a Christian country - the birthplace of protestantism. Yep.
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  So what does that prove...that people of a given nation must prognosticate the mental development of each child born within their borders? 
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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2013, 07:44:00 AM »
Hello
 
I have spoken with a Veteran of WW2 that had first hand experience with the camps. While he was not the the first through the gate so to speak he was there very shortly after the camp was liberated. He often said that facing Rommel's tanks in north africa caused him to soil himself but what he saw in that camp caused him nightmares for the rest of his life.
 
While I was watching the video posted by IG I clicked on another and thought it relevant to the conversation.
 
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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2013, 08:48:33 AM »
Well, thank God John Kerry has found a quarter of a Billion dollars (during the apocalyptic sequester, no less!) to help stabilize Morsi's regime and characters like this liar.

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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2013, 05:56:33 AM »
Hello
 
I have spoken with a Veteran of WW2 that had first hand experience with the camps. While he was not the the first through the gate so to speak he was there very shortly after the camp was liberated. He often said that facing Rommel's tanks in north africa caused him to soil himself but what he saw in that camp caused him nightmares for the rest of his life.
 
While I was watching the video posted by IG I clicked on another and thought it relevant to the conversation.
 
It has been a while since I checked in. Hope everyone is well.
 
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One thing many don't realize is it was the Soviets that "liberated" Auschwitz.  The blood soaked regime uses that episode as a cover for their own crimes.  Remember Katyn?  Who was it who said it was Germans who executed Polish officers?  Eh?  They were lying then and Allied leaders kept up with the lie.  But it was Goebbels who was telling the truth.  The Germans were right. 

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« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2013, 06:09:02 AM »
Setting the whole issue why there were KZ Lagers in the first place aside. Do you have any idea what the German soldier( Landser) had as rations toward the end of the war??
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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2013, 12:35:06 PM »
TM, Hairy and BBF..
  You guys sure are working hard trying to keep from addressing the lie which was exposed in the OP.  The lie exposed there is of such odious character that it would seem almost impossible to ignore.
       This is a terrorist leader addressing a subject, the evil of which was committed before he was even born.  By inference, it exposes the collaboration of the radical islamists with the Nazi regime.... and by deduction, those who empathize with the radical islamists, are almost obligated to go along with the Nazi lies.
   Come on you three, let's hear you guys admit that the holocaust did happen.. After all there are reams of proof..if you just look at it!
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« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2013, 06:53:15 AM »
TM, Hairy and BBF..
  You guys sure are working hard trying to keep from addressing the lie which was exposed in the OP.  The lie exposed there is of such odious character that it would seem almost impossible to ignore.
       This is a terrorist leader addressing a subject, the evil of which was committed before he was even born.  By inference, it exposes the collaboration of the radical islamists with the Nazi regime.... and by deduction, those who empathize with the radical islamists, are almost obligated to go along with the Nazi lies.
   Come on you three, let's hear you guys admit that the holocaust did happen.. After all there are reams of proof..if you just look at it!

It doesn't matter that there was a Holocaust.  More important is why was there a Holocaust?   ???
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« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2013, 03:47:14 AM »
TM, Hairy and BBF..
  You guys sure are working hard trying to keep from addressing the lie which was exposed in the OP.  The lie exposed there is of such odious character that it would seem almost impossible to ignore.
       This is a terrorist leader addressing a subject, the evil of which was committed before he was even born.  By inference, it exposes the collaboration of the radical islamists with the Nazi regime.... and by deduction, those who empathize with the radical islamists, are almost obligated to go along with the Nazi lies.
   Come on you three, let's hear you guys admit that the holocaust did happen.. After all there are reams of proof..if you just look at it!

It doesn't matter that there was a Holocaust.  More important is why was there a Holocaust?   ???
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« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2013, 06:53:59 AM »
What is the Jewish population in Lithuania?  It looks like the Jews had a rough ride there.  :D
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« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2013, 09:22:14 AM »
  I'm not claiming that all holocaust victims are jewish...as I related in an earlier post int this thread, my brother's in-laws were "guests" at Auschwitz...and they were Polish Catholics.  Huge numbers of dead have been racked up by many dictators of the left..Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao etc..they were equal opportunity mass murderers..
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« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2013, 09:45:10 AM »
Anyone who helped the Jews were also sent to the concentration camps.  6 million Jews, 12 million Poles, 20 million Russians were killed by the Germans.  Stalin had 30 million killed in the purges of the 1920's and 30's. Lots of Ukaranians and White Russians.  Hitler was an extreme Right Wing Socialist, while Stalin was and Extreme Left Wing Socialist or Communist.  Both types of Socialism are bad.  Both started with ONE PARTY RULE.  Hitler blamed the Jews for loosing WWI because they ran the banking system.  Germans used Russian and Polish captured military personnel as slaves in their factories along with Jews.  Worked them to death.  Germans respected Americans and Brittons because they were of German decendants.  (Angles, Saxons, and Jutes who took Brittan at the fall of the Roman Empire, were Germanic tribes.  Also the French were decendants of Franks who were also Germanic.  They therefore treated Western prisoners of war better than Slavic peoples and Jews. 
 
Jews have always ran banks, stores, or they have a big influence in Holywood.  They are good business people and are never on the public dole.  It is only natural for the poor to have an envy or hatred for successful people regardless of religion or race.  Mormans are pretty good businesspeople also. 

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Re: Morsi aide, holocaust was a hoax cooked up by America.
« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2013, 09:58:10 AM »
  My sister-in-law's Mom is still alive...and stays with her and my brother.  Now that old age senility is creeping in, she is reverting back to those days.  Sometimes during the day or evening she will snitch a cookie..then huddle down in her chair with a blanket pulled up around her face..trying to hide what she is eating.  This is probably something she had to do in the camp..if she were to survive..
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Re: Morsi aide, holocaust was a hoax cooked up by America.
« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2013, 06:31:43 AM »
What is the Jewish population in Lithuania?  It looks like the Jews had a rough ride there.  :D

Don't know about the ride, however if there is no money to be made you won't see many of them. ;) :D
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