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Canada scraps the penny.
« on: February 05, 2013, 03:54:22 PM »
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/canada/canada-s****s-the-penny-213724.html
 
Canada Scraps the Penny  By Matthew Little
Epoch Times Staff Created: April 1, 2012 Last Updated: April 6, 2012   Related articles: Canada » National    Print E-mail to a friend Give feedback       Canada's federal budget, released last week, included the decision to end production of the penny. (Matthew Little/The Epoch Times) Canada's federal budget, released last week, included the decision to end production of the penny. (Matthew Little/The Epoch Times) A penny saved clutters up ashtrays and jars but perhaps not for much longer for the Great White North.
Canada is set to do away with its one-cent coin, a move the government says will save the country $11 million a year.
“Given its declining purchasing value, some Canadians consider the penny more of a nuisance than a useful coin,” notes the announcement that came with the publication of this year’s federal budget.

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While the Canadian Mint will stop producing the penny, the coin will retain its value indefinitely and shoppers can continue to use it to make payments. However, the government encourages Canadians to donate their pennies to charity.
The penny’s production end is slotted for the fall of this year.
 
The move has stirred little reaction in Canada, though Canada’s Senate looked into the issue in 2010 and heard testimony that around 10-15 people at the Mint would lose their jobs. Charities are also set to lose as people who used to donate pennies liberally in charity collections may be more reluctant to part with nickels and dimes.
The Senate also heard numerous arguments in favour of discarding the penny, including the cost to transport the 2,000 metric tonnes of pennies produced by the Mint each year.
The Canadian Mint did a study in 2007 to see what Canadians thought of eliminating the penny and found 33 percent were against the move, largely because they feared prices would be rounded up.
 
This concern was proven false in Australia and New Zealand where the one-cent coins have already been eliminated.
Various studies in Canada have long derided the cost of the coin to the national economy, tossing out figures on everything from the cost of waiting in line to get pennies for change ($20-25 million a year) to the total cost to the economy ($130 million a year.)
An online petition launched to save the penny has gathered just 25 signatures.
Its fallacious argument to save the penny suggests that ending the use of the coin will increase any purchase by 5 percent.
 
However, this is untrue given that the most any cash transaction will be affected is by 2 cents.
Interestingly, of the signatures on the petition, only five were from Canadians.
Other signatures came from Poland, Australia, the U.S., Slovakia, and Switzerland.
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2013, 05:53:03 PM »
So does that mean now when a Canadian offers an opinion and says "that's my two cents", its essentially worthless?
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2013, 06:23:26 PM »
So does that mean now when a Canadian offers an opinion and says "that's my two cents", its essentially worthless?

 
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2013, 01:19:29 AM »
yes, worthless now. same value as the rest
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2013, 05:19:30 AM »
     I am still going to hang onto several rolls of Canadian Centenial pennys I have in the safe somewhere, maybe a Canadian collector will offer me a large price for them.  Jim

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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2013, 09:24:04 AM »
The 1 cent piece is only a start.
 
One if the bone heads we have in Parliament  now wants to push the elimination of the Nickel. This particular bone head is a member of the New Democratic Party. 
Note the "Democrat" label in the party. !! >:( >:(

Personally I don't care much. We use our Debit cards in just about all of our finances and a penny is still a penny in electronic transaction.
The Royal mint stated it costs more than 1 cent( 1.2 I think) to mint a 1 cent coin, My answer would be, make a 2 cent coin.
 
Lastly I will see that the round up is going to be more popular than rounding down.
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2013, 09:26:40 AM »
Next they wil be going after assault coins, and high capacity coin purses.
 
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2013, 09:32:02 AM »
They should be very careful with that. Does anyone remember Richard Pryor in one of the Superman movies? He was working for the IRS and realized that there were leftover fractions of a cent when the government rounded the figures, using the tax formulas, especially business transactions on Wall Street. So, he put in a program that deposited the leftover fractions into his bank account. Instant GAzillionaire! (He got arrested--- so far, that has not happened in real life.) Anyway, eliminating the 1 cent piece could lead to money that is completely off the record...
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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2013, 09:37:59 AM »
I heard on Fox last year that it costs the gov't more to make a penny than a penny is worth. 

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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2013, 09:49:41 AM »
What "pizzes" me off is that fact that there are millions of pennies in circulation and not about the get worn out. Folks save them in cookie jar but they are still in use. There is no rush to change the cash registers just becausr the Mint doesn't produce them.
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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2013, 03:56:15 PM »
tell everyone to turn them in and give them 5 cents for each in credit toward the new canadian 5 dollar coin. after they are all in, make the old penny the 5 dollar coin.
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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2013, 04:17:49 PM »
Next they wil be going after assault coins, and high capacity coin purses.
 

 
Sounds like something the idiot governor here in NY would do. :)
 
 
 
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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2013, 04:20:09 PM »
I heard on Fox last year that it costs the gov't more to make a penny than a penny is worth.
Probably does, but its not a problem because they get used more than once, and last about forever, until you put them on the railroad track.
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2013, 04:29:07 PM »
I heard on Fox last year that it costs the gov't more to make a penny than a penny is worth.
Probably does, but its not a problem because they get used more than once, and last about forever, until you put them on the railroad track.

Hehehehehe... they do look pretty cool after 80 or 90 train cars go over them. ;D
 
 
 
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2013, 06:57:24 PM »
When we make a penny in the U.S. we have to borrow 3/4 of a cent from the chinese to do it.
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Re: Canada scraps the penny.
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2013, 12:59:48 AM »
too bad they're not real copper. we could put then into a press and turn them into bullets. i wonder what their composition would do to a barrel?
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