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Obama to bring an 'urgent' peace agenda on Israel visit, ambassador says  Published February 06, 2013
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  •    FILE: May 20, 2011: President Obama meets with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in the Oval Office in Washington . (AP)
  JERUSALEM –  President Obama will bring an "urgent" peacemaking agenda to Israel on his upcoming visit, focusing on the region and the resumption of talks between Israel and the Palestinians, U.S. Ambassador Dan Shapiro said Wednesday.
 
Shapiro spoke a day after the White House announced Obama will visit Israel, the West Bank and Jordan in the spring, at the beginning of both his second term in office and also at the start of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's third term. Obama's previous term in office saw relations with Netanyahu deteriorate in part over failed talks with the Palestinians but also due to the two leaders' different world views. The visit will be Obama's first as president to the staunch U.S. ally.
 
Shapiro gave several interviews to Israeli media Wednesday morning with the same message.
"We have a very urgent agenda," Shapiro told Army radio. "We have a very complex agenda about Iran, Syria and the need to get Israel and the Palestinians back to the negotiating table, so it's important to begin as fast as possible," he said.
 
The White House has not released the date of Obama's trip or details about Obama's itinerary, but Israel's Channel 10 reported it had been scheduled for March 20. The visit raises expectations that peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians, which collapsed about four years ago, can be rekindled.
Palestinians refuse to resume the talks unless Israel stops building in areas they claim for a future state. Israel says all issues, including territorial disputes, must be resolved through negotiations. It has frequently called for talks to be restarted.
 
Shapiro said that Obama will meet with the Palestinian leadership in the West Bank along with the King of Jordan, who has had a role in peacemaking efforts, during his visit.
"President Obama is not coming with conditions or demands. He is coming to confer with all our partners about problems and challenges we are dealing with in the region," Shapiro told Israel radio.
He said that Obama isn't "seeking a specific result" but wants to confer about ways of "bringing Israel and the Palestinians back to the negotiation table."
 
Although Obama visited Israel and Jordan while running for president in 2008, he hasn't been back since, drawing intense criticism from some pro-Israel groups who have claimed he is insufficiently supportive of the United States' closest Mideast ally. Other top administration officials, including former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, have visited, and Clinton's replacement, John Kerry, is expected to travel to Israel on his first Mideast trip.
Shapiro shrugged off questions about relations between Obama and Netanyahu. "The personal chemistry between them is excellent. They know how to work together," he said.
Obama will also discuss Iran's nuclear program, the danger of Syrian chemical weapons reaching militants and other regional issues, Shapiro said.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/06/obama-to-bring-urgent-peace-agenda-on-israel-visit-ambassador-says/?test=latestnews#ixzz2K84zkC5h
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Why doesn't our Ambassador bring the "Urgent Peace Message" to Israel's neighbors?
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hussein is going there to try and pressure Israel into giving up even more of her land to satans own. I hope he is told to take a hike. How will he explain why he armed his egyptian brotherhood to attack Israel?? What a puke he is. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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Why doesn't our Ambassador bring the "Urgent Peace Message" to Israel's neighbors?

Because dropping bombs on them is much more satisfying. >:(
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Why doesn't our Ambassador bring the "Urgent Peace Message" to Israel's neighbors?

Because dropping bombs on them is much more satisfying. >:(
We are after all trying to perfect the "Smart" bomb!
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hussein is going there to try and pressure Israel into giving up even more of her land to satans own. I hope he is told to take a hike. How will he explain why he armed his egyptian brotherhood to attack Israel?? What a puke he is. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

He can say, "It looks like we can't even buy our way out of things any longer.  You need to now do your part on reducing the settlements.  Why don't you just call out on the bull horn for the settlers to just wind things up and get the he#% out of there."  We're sick and tired of paying for the stupid problems you keep creating for us."   :o
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Gee why not just let the Israelis colonize the area? Build some nice places to live and be in peace?
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Gee why not just let the Israelis colonize the area? Build some nice places to live and be in peace?

What would you do if the Chinese did that to us?  They come in, take over with the help of a superpower and turn us into slaves.  Should we just say, OK?   :P   Churchill was right.  Doing so will antagonize those native peoples.
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Gee why not just let the Israelis colonize the area? Build some nice places to live and be in peace?

 
RICK. The land belongs to Israel, not the trespassing, squatting palis. YES, build Israel build. I'd love to see Israel cleanse all of her land of the you know what ones. The palis desecrate Holy ground. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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Gee why not just let the Israelis colonize the area? Build some nice places to live and be in peace?

 
RICK. The land belongs to Israel, not the trespassing, squatting palis. YES, build Israel build. I'd love to see Israel cleanse all of her land of the you know what ones. The palis desecrate Holy ground. POWDERMAN.  :o :o

What did you think of Baruch Goldstein? Was he your Saint?   8)
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I just love those German names by people that aren't even close to be German.

 
BBF. Me too, I don't have a clue who baruch goldstein is, or was. Do you?? POWDERMAN.
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
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He murdered 29 Muslims in a place called Hevron in 1994.
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He murdered 29 Muslims in a place called Hevron in 1994.

He was a Jewish Supremicist, acted as such, just like Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and he resides in the homeland for Jews Only.  The difference between him and Richard Perle is Perle said he did it for Freedom and Democracy.  Now Perle is quiet because we can ask, "So how did the Freedom and Democracy turn out?  Not so good.     
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He murdered 29 Muslims in a place called Hevron in 1994.

He was a Jewish Supremicist, acted as such, just like Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and he resides in the homeland for Jews Only.  The difference between him and Richard Perle is Perle said he did it for Freedom and Democracy.  Now Perle is quiet because we can ask, "So how did the Freedom and Democracy turn out?  Not so good.     
So you are against freedom and democracy?
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No, you don't have the "Freedom" to murder 29 people just because you hate them.
 
Democracy can be a dangerous concept where the simple majority decides the fate of the others. Not really my ideal of a Govt.
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If that question is for me
 
No, you don't have the "Freedom" to murder 29 people just because you hate them.
 
Democracy can be a dangerous concept where the simple majority decides the fate of the others. Not really my ideal of a Govt.
In reality hate is a very real cause of many killngs and wars. Anarchy then is the perfect government you say? It is after all the only true form of freedom.
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If that question is for me
 
No, you don't have the "Freedom" to murder 29 people just because you hate them.
 
Democracy can be a dangerous concept where the simple majority decides the fate of the others. Not really my ideal of a Govt.
In reality hate is a very real cause of many killngs and wars. Anarchy then is the perfect government you say? It is after all the only true form of freedom.

Do you like Emma Goldman?   ???

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In reality hate is a very real cause of many killngs and wars. Anarchy then is the perfect government you say? ....................

I do/did not say anything in regards to Anarchy.
A true Republic is probably the best I can think of. Followed by a limited Monarchy or benign oligarchy.
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HEH. I see that this simple little thread has morphed into yet another I hate Jews, Israel thread, which of course has NOTHING to do with the OP. I'm shocked. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::)
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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TM7,

The only religious genocide going on in the Middle East is by the Muzzies in their fervent desire to kill Jews and Christians, and desecrate the holy sites.     Muzzies kill and destroy; those are their deeds and purpose.    You choose not to see that because of some anti-Israeli Islamophilia.    I truly pray that yo will someday see Islam in its true light" a cult of death, blood, and hate.   I will even give you a news report of Islamic tolerance in the Holy Land [yes, it is from TROP -- verify the story for yourself, if you wish]:


Arabs Target Jerusalem Home with FirebombsArabs hurled firebombs at a Jewish building in the Abu Tor neighborhood of Jerusalem, just narrowly missing a gas pipe. AAFont Size By Elad Benari First Publish: 2/11/2013, 2:14 AM
 Arab youth throws firebomb height=168Arab youth throws firebombFlash 90 In another terror incident that was mostly ignored by mainstream Israeli media, Arabs hurled three firebombs at a building that houses Jewish families in the Abu Tor neighborhood of southern Jerusalem on Saturday night.
The firebombs nearly set the whole building on fire, but miraculously missed. Baruch Pross, a local resident, recalled the attack in a conversation with Arutz Sheva on Sunday.
The incident occurred at 8:00 p.m. on Saturday night, when he was out, but as he returned home and approached the building, Pross recalled seeing police forces and border police officers in large numbers busy putting out the fire near the building.
One of the firebombs nearly hit a gas pipe, said Pross, adding, “If that had happened the whole building would have gone up in flames.”
After the fire was put out, the commander of the local police station arrived on the scene and promised to handle the investigation in person and capture the terrorists. Pross said that the commander of the station gave the residents a feeling that he is seriously committed to capturing the perpetrators.
Jewish homes in Abu Tor have been the target of firebomb attacks in the past.
Pross noted that Saturday’s incident is just one more in a series of violent incidents directed at Jewish residents of Abu Tor. In the past six months, he said, there has been a decline in the number of firebomb attacks on the building, but previously such incidents would occur once every two to four weeks.
In addition to the firebomb attacks, the Jewish residents of Abu Tor have been the targets of repeated attacks of other types as well.
Pross told Arutz Sheva that his son, who is in the seventh grade, was attacked two weeks ago by two Arab children the same age as him. When he tried to escape, another Arab around 20 years of age arrived and threw him onto the road. Another son of his was standing at a bus station last year when he was attacked by a group of Arabs who left the place only when he defended himself with rocks. In addition, Arabs constantly attack Jews as they make their way to synagogue during Shabbat, try to run them over and cause damage to their vehicles.
Firebomb attacks have come to be the most common form of terrorism in Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria in recent months, according to statistics recently published by the Israel Security Agency (Shin Bet).
On Saturday night, dozens of residents of the Shomron (Samaria) community of Karnei Shomron protested at the entrance to their community against the ongoing rock-throwing and firebomb attacks by Arabs.
The latest attack occurred on Friday, when a woman in the seventh month of her pregnancy was lightly wounded when a rock hit the windshield of her car as she drove on the highway.
 


ST762

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SWAMPTHING. Good post Sir, and true. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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Swampthing...moozelimbs and ME Christians just want to live on their properties which their ancestors have lived on for a couple of thousand years and not be genocided.
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Yes, that is true, but the genocidal activities are being executed by the Muzzies you support.

Also, Islam requires conflict to exist, so Muzzies kill jews, Christians, and each other.  Oh, I almost forgot........Muzzies also kill Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, and Chicoms.    These are the same Muzzies to which you give "aid and comfort" by defending them.

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Show your appreciation for Islam....eat more bacon.

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SWAMPTHING. Another good post Sir, all true. The ishmaelites murdered innocents in 5 different religions last month, in 24 countries. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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Swampthing...moozelimbs and ME Christians just want to live on their properties which their ancestors have lived on for a couple of thousand years and not be genocided.
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..TM7

Yes, that is true, but the genocidal activities are being executed by the Muzzies you support.

Also, Islam requires conflict to exist, so Muzzies kill jews, Christians, and each other.  Oh, I almost forgot........Muzzies also kill Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, and Chicoms.    These are the same Muzzies to which you give "aid and comfort" by defending them.

ST762
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Moozelimbs and Christians are the genocidal victims of zionist isreal and zionist christianity (actually a form of old pharisee and scribe judiasm fixated on scriptures).  This much is clear...the moozelimbs are not stealing their own land nor herding themsleves into concentration camps in Palestine....This is done by zioinist colonist and their jewish-christian enablers.
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 As for moozelimb violence, I do not see moozelimbs invading and occupying any foreign countries, or having military bases around the world, nor have economy or nation now nothing than a  dominating MIC syndicate, nor with naval armadas in our or other waters, nor do I see where they have invaded, occupied and destroyed the culture of various countries resulting in milions and millions of deaths...and this while their own people (i.e. USA) endure a economic depression and falling real incomes as there government preaching austerity carries on illegal real and covert wars in over 25 countries resulting in the death of millions.....I don't see this with them.  I do see some 'privateer' groups among them that hire out to the highest bidder per agenda..we see this, often so-called al CIAduh cells in Lybian Syria...go figure that one!.  Do you know what a 'privateer' is?.
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 What I do see is what was once called the nation of the USA has descended into a pseudo MIC syndicate, post-constitutional police state, enabled by violent religious groups hellbent on some occult liturgical endgame coming to fruition. Also, what I see after reading the Bible, Qu'ran, and Talmud is that the Qu'ran is far less violent, vengeful, genocidal, warring, deceitful than the other two...just my opinion.
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Oh, great and wise TM7, please show me the evidence that the Zionist Jews are killing Christians in the Holy Land simply because they are not Jews, or evidence of Christians killing Jews and other Christians.  You cannot...there is none.    Only the Muzzies engage in religious violence, the cult of death to which you provide "aid and comfort".   

Powderman and I routinely provide news report of this murderous way of life, and to be fair, news of religious-based attacks by Jews and Christians when they occur.   

As for the Bible and Talmud being bloodier than the Quran, I will remind you that the battles of the Jewish people was in a small location and the recorded battles were always smaller in scope.  The Israelites conquered the land that is modern day Israel -- there was no Palestine till the Roman Empire.  The Muzzie death cult slaughtered people by the tens of thousands across Africa through the modern nations of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Mali, Morocco, Spain and France, as well as Jordan, Syria, Armenia, and Turkey, to name but a few.   They did this in the name of Allah, with the credo of convert or die.   Only when the bloodthirsty Islamic hordes faced the righteous might of Charles "The Hammer" Martel at Tours in 733, and were defeated, was the threat to European Christendom abated.     And you claim that Jews and Christians are rapacious in their savagery.     I cannot decide if you simply have no grasp of history, or simply ignore history.  I really don't care, either, at this point.

Gloria in excelsis Deo!

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I had never heard of Emma Goldman till your post. A google search and she appears to have been a very interesting person.
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SWAMPTHING. Another good post Sir. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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Swampthing...moozelimbs and ME Christians just want to live on their properties which their ancestors have lived on for a couple of thousand years and not be genocided.
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 As I said:  Evangelicalism requires islamophobia and conflict to exist....you're proof.
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It never ceases to amaze me that your concept of who is on the sticky end of genocide is wrong.
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Where is this supposed genocide happening other than Africa? I guess we can include the Sunni-Shiite issue in some cases and the Shaka Zulu thing of years past. Are you talking about the sad activities of the UN? If you are trying to say that Israel is commiting genocide please explain. The real proposed genocide out there is the Muslim brotherhood wiping out Israel. Is that what you are talking about?
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