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Photos Of A "Lunch Hour" Cannon from the 1920's
« on: February 07, 2013, 09:55:28 AM »
I thought I'd post these just for the heck of it. This cannon was made by an employee of the Kissel Car Co. Hartford, WI. sometime in the 1920's. I bought it from the daughter of the man who made it. She vaguely recalled hearing her dad refer to it as a cannon but she was quick to assure me that she "only used it for a door stop". It's about 6" square at the base with a 1/2" bore in a 8" barrel. I have no idea why the touch hole is on an angle. I've never tried firing it; I bought it as a curiosity.
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Re: Photos Of A "Lunch Hour" Cannon from the 1920's
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2013, 12:47:00 PM »
Someone posted a similar contraption mad out a piece of unknow bronze  over on  Muzzle loader  Cannon board and I called it a pipe bomb.

It needs to be spiked and returned to its use as a family heirloom doorstop
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Re: Photos Of A "Lunch Hour" Cannon from the 1920's
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2013, 12:59:44 PM »
Or maybe used as a "firecracker" or "bottle rocket" launcher................
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Re: Photos Of A "Lunch Hour" Cannon from the 1920's
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2013, 07:29:04 PM »
Quote from: Double D on February 07, 2013, 12:47:00 PM
Someone posted a similar contraption mad out a piece of unknow bronze  over on  Muzzle loader  Cannon board and I called it a pipe bomb.

It needs to be spiked and returned to its use as a family heirloom doorstop

I think you could use it as a salute gun . It looks sturdy enough to me for blanks.I hope you  stick around long enough to be treated as one of us :o .
 
I know it is not easy for a newcomer here ,many have left too soon :( .
 
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Re: Photos Of A "Lunch Hour" Cannon from the 1920's
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2013, 01:03:37 AM »
At first I didn't get what "lunch hour cannon" meant, then it ever so slowly began to dawn on me, that the maker made the piece on his lunch hour at work. Man, I'm like that Shylock Homes character; sometimes my powers of observation manage to even impress me.




 
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Re: Photos Of A "Lunch Hour" Cannon from the 1920's
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2013, 02:12:08 AM »
 I was expecting a picture of one of those sundial cannons.


 There are examples of old unmarked handguns they call "lunchbox" or "toolbox specials." You see the odd one turn up now and then. My lunchbox might have been a tad heavy now and then had I worked in the Colt factory a century ago.  ;)
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Re: Photos Of A "Lunch Hour" Cannon from the 1920's
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2013, 04:40:37 AM »
This doorstop should put out service    It should not be considered safe to shoot in any manner.  It does have worth as a heirloom and a piece of folk art.  But is should not be shot.

Those of you recommend shooting it, answer these questions?

How old is it?

What is it made from?

What has been shot in it?

Was it made with any attention to safe construction methods for a shooting device?

Just looking at it says NO!

None of you know and neither do I, if this thing is safe to shoot.

Advising  Auctioneer to shoot it in any way, is irresponsible.  I hope you are prepared to accept your liability if the thing fails and Auctioneer becomes injured, because he fired it on your advice.

Now if some knowledgeable competent person examined it physically and determine what is was made of and how it was made.  Then checked it to see if it was sound and said it was safe to shot. That would be different.

Until then I stand by my suggestion, spike it!





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Re: Photos Of A "Lunch Hour" Cannon from the 1920's
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2013, 09:47:27 PM »
 I tend to agree with DD. In years past I might have fired something like that but not anymore. Who knows if the breech plug is secured properly?


 A few of the sponsors here make similar sized cannons for very little money that are guaranteed to be safe if one wants a firing cannon.


 Having the provenance, obtaining it from the Daughter of the original owner etc. makes it a really neat item though. I love stuff like that.  :)
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Re: Photos Of A "Lunch Hour" Cannon from the 1920's
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2013, 02:47:46 AM »
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I hope you  stick around long enough to be treated as one of us  .
 
I know it is not easy for a newcomer here ,many have left too soon

So true so true.  Ignoring some and getting help elsewhere seems to do the trick.
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Re: Photos Of A "Lunch Hour" Cannon from the 1920's
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2013, 03:31:15 AM »
Auctioneer,
I think that you already know this, but just in case; please don't ignore the excellent advice of those recommending that this barrel not be fired.
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Re: Photos Of A "Lunch Hour" Cannon from the 1920's
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2013, 04:29:59 AM »
I had a good conversation with Auctioneer on the phone a few days ago about his other cannon with the leaded in breech. During our conversation he mentioned this "lunch hour" cannon and its history. I suggested he share it with us here. He is a genuinely nice person with good judgement. He has been fortunate to aquire unique pieces of "Americana" and values them more for their collectors value and history than the ability to actually fire them. He is new here and it can seem a little tuff on newbie's, but I believe he will pleasantly surprise us occasionally with his unique finds.................... Thanks Auctioneer for sharing this "lunch hour" cannon with us, I look forward to seeing more of your post in the future :)
 
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Re: Photos Of A "Lunch Hour" Cannon from the 1920's
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2013, 12:27:15 PM »
NOT ADVISING TO SHOOT IT :o  but wondering if someone might have used it more for a oxy-act. gas cannon, ive seen a number of dumbA#$S build those out and about....
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Re: Photos Of A "Lunch Hour" Cannon from the 1920's
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2013, 01:15:02 AM »
Quote from: a4beltfed2000 on February 12, 2013, 12:27:15 PM
NOT ADVISING TO SHOOT IT :o  but wondering if someone might have used it more for a oxy-act. gas cannon, ive seen a number of dumbA#$S build those out and about....


 What's wrong with an oxy-acet cannon? Don't care for the ol' Big Bang toys?


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Re: Photos Of A "Lunch Hour" Cannon from the 1920's
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2013, 12:37:23 PM »
nothing wrong with the oxy-act. its more along the lines of the guys making/using them. something along the lines of hold my beer and watch this :o
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