ive got lots of ars. Lots of accurate ars. this post was about minis and ive had 3 and all 3 were dismal shooters. 3 inch group and I was ecstatic. The only thing I shot out of them were 50-55s. Thinking back I wish I would have tried a 60 in one. I actually like the platform. Just cant see spending near a grand on a gun that can shoot groups half as big and is just as reliable for 450.