Cops Gone Wild: Why do Cops like to shoot dogs...?

[TM7]

Just wondering.  They never use to......
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Disturbing report:    http://dogmurders.wordpress.com/
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..TM7

[Mike in Virginia]

That's pretty bad.  If they had to shoot it, why did the wait until it was restrained.  I'd say that cop is in trouble.  Shooting at a private residence should never occurr except in self defene or defense of another person.  That said, the dog was propably destined to die anyway.

[coyotejoe]

Man that is an amazing site, I never even got to the bottom of all those stories but they all seem to have been pretty similar, cops shooting dogs for no apparent reason. Ovr and over the cops claim they "feared for my life". If you fear a 35 pound Austrailian Shepard you are one cowardly piee of crap. In no case had the dog actually bitten anyone. Trigger happy cops with "Assault weapons" assaulting harmless dogs.

[Swampman]

Fewer dogs equals less noise and poop.  What's the down side?

[JonnyReb]

 The downside for the officer is to be fired, as happened in pineville N.C. about 1991. He shot 2 golden retrievers in their fenced yard. Small town and everyone knew everyone then,  the offending officer was immediately terminated. Or look to Ruby Ridge, where the officer who shot the family dog, was himself shot, if I remember correctly. All good reasons for officers not to shoot the family pet, who IS a part of the family..  j

[-Shaggy-]

Fewer dogs equals less noise and poop.  What's the down side?

You make noise and poop, too; often at the same time.   

[Swampman]

I hate to see anyone lose their job.  I can see that as a down side.

[ironglow]

  On the surface it looks bad for the cop..but sometimes looks can be deceiving.  I would have to see & hear more of the circumstance before passing judgement.   It looks like the cop was appealing to someone in the house to come get their dog so it wouldn't have to be shot.  If that is so, then the dog's owner is responsible for it's death!
  I have a friend who is on a police swat team..you can't imagine how many Pit Bulls they have had to put down when raiding drug houses.  Now the perps aree going for bigger, meaner dogs than the Pits.  Mostly the dogs are not just naturally meaner..the drug peddlars make them that way..sometimes having had the dogs vocal cords cut, so the dog will actually sneak up on the cops.
     When my grandson first arrived in Iraq..one of their tasks as Spec Ops Marines was raiding terrorist's "safe houses", often under cover of darkness.  These mini-fortresses were guarded by mean dogs..which carried a warning  bark.  My grandson's immediate NCOIC had an Ontario Katana strapped in a scabbard over his back..for quick draw.  The Sgt called it his "Hush Puppy"..
 
  I also truly like dogs, having for many years bred, trained, hunted and competed with both Airedale and Jack Russell terriers.  However, I was raised on a farm and don't confuse the value of animal vs human life.
 
  In this case, we just don't have enough info.. the cop could have been wrong..the dog's owner may have been wrong.
 

[blind ear]

dogmurders, you are killing me! lol,  Keep them at home. ear

[lakota]

I think the ones who are bullies with badges and are just dying to shoot something are the ones who like to shoot dogs. All they have to say is "I felt threatened" and thats it case closed. Recently around here a cop followed someone into their driveway, shot the family lab and ticketed the driver for failure to use a turn signal when the person turned into the driveway. Thats good police work!   Per protocol he stated "I felt threatened" and viola! case closed! The family lab might have licked him to death.
 
Since dogs are considered property I guess some folks around here dont have any problem with the blatant 4th Amendment violation that many of these dog killings represent.

[ironglow]

Lakota;
  There are such things as "bullies with badges" and hopefully most are weeded out!  I suppose it is natural for the job to attract bullies and I would hope that nearly all can be weeded out.  Executing a family pet for no good reason is inexcusable..sadly, sounds like that cop had a grudge against that driver..
 
  TM:
  As I said, I didn't see enough in that one video..but that doesn't mean I automatically consider the LEO was totally correct.  He could very well been a "cowboy" or who knows.  We don't know the provocation..but if that animal handler (light shirt) couldn't handle a single dog better than that, he/she should not now have a job.  I'm an old man now, and I believe I could have had that dog in a transport truck before half that video was done..
   Right now, it doesn't look good for the cop...

[Ranger99]

i can't speak for any area other than my own.
if i were an leo or public servant around here
there would be a lot of dead dogs and cats
in my wake. animals around here are used
for 'alarms" for these gangs and dope dealers
and run around just this side of wild. none
have collars with vaccination tags as required by law.
a neighbor lets the cats run wild and they pee
and poop everywhere and spread fleas like
crazy. there are times the mailman has to
run the gauntlet and other times i just don't
get any mail. responsible pet owners should
make sure animals in their charge don't leave
their property and are legally obligated (here)
to vaccinate and tag their animals. some time
back, i was bitten by a stray untagged dog and
had to go get the rabies shots. it was expensive
and painful, so i don't have any sympathy for
the folks that let their animals roam.

[ironglow]

We don't know the situation with the house/homeowner.  If this were a simple process serve or a drug raid.  process serve is one thing but if that dog were there to delay entry for theolice in the case of a drug raid, I can see why they may have thought this to be an intentional and unnecessary delay.
  I can't understand why, if the home owner is also the dog owner..just why the homeowner was not right down there assisting in quieting the dog down.  It seems as though that would have been the prudent thing to do!

[mauser98us]

Man that is an amazing site, I never even got to the bottom of all those stories but they all seem to have been pretty similar, cops shooting dogs for no apparent reason. Ovr and over the cops claim they "feared for my life". If you fear a 35 pound Austrailian Shepard you are one cowardly piee of crap. In no case had the dog actually bitten anyone. Trigger happy cops with "Assault weapons" assaulting harmless dogs.

As a meter reader for a local electric utility in the past I've been mauled fairly badly by dogs less than 35 pounds,also by dogs more than 35 pounds.Problems are owners really can't control their dogs in most cases.So I guess that makes me a cowardly piece of crap.

[Ranger99]

you should delete your last sentence.
i know what it's like to get bitten and
to have to take the shots.
if folks don't want harm to come to their
animals they should keep them under control.

[FPH]

A loose dog is a dead dog.  However, If my dogs are vaccinated and confined to my  property ( as they are), you best stay away from them and if you mess with them......be prepared for the consequences.

[Ranger99]

i completely agree

[Empty Quiver]

Officer safety folks, nothing to see here, move along.

[kennyd]

It is training and SOP.  I had a neighbor who went to academy, got a job in a small town.  Next he tells me how he almost had to shoot a "suspect" because he didn't quickly answer to a command to:  " come over here, I want to talk to you".  Guy got a ticket for interfering with an ivestigation and resisting.  It was an argument btweeen to men at a 7-11.

[Empty Quiver]

Officer safety folks, nothing to see here, move along.

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EQ....Pretty bad when cops go to the wrong address and shoot your dog just because they screwed up...you think? Pretty hard to control your dog when you're drawn down on, or cuffed, and told not to move....you think?  Pretty hard to control your dog when cops are tresspassing in your backyard and you don't know they're there..you think? Pretty hard to control your dog when he's on a pole and they tell you to stand away and then shoot the dog...you think? Pretty nice to have your personal property liquidated with no recourse---you think?
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Now, this thread is about cops shooting family dogs just because they can and get away with it..  The issue of druggie attack dogs is a tangent issue.....cops are apparently trained nowadays to just shoot dogs instead of dealing with them. BTW, I've heard tell if you shoot a police dog mauling you or scaring the sheit out of you, you'll get the chair.  Same ole thing_ _they get to have 'personal defense weapons', but we-the-people get what's negatively called an 'assault weapon' (actually a 'patrol rifle').
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If you actually peruse the link this caninecide seems out of control....I don't remember cops engaging in caninecide at the level of today.  Then again I don't remember them getting addresses wrong at the level today; or beating and tazing folks at the level of today. We've come along way.
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Incidently, I've heard dogs really don't like mace or pepper spray.
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...TM7

I forgot the Sarcasm imoticon TM7. By and large the incidents shown are horse crap at best, a few moments spent difuseing the situation would have went a long ways. Dogs must be taught to step and fetch when they see a badge, or run the risk of a death penalty.


Where does one go to buy Jack Boots? They seem to be coming back in style.

[mauser98us]

A loose dog is a dead dog.  However, If my dogs are vaccinated and confined to my  property ( as they are), you best stay away from them and if you mess with them......be prepared for the consequences.

When I was meter reading,I had many instances where idiot owners had their dogs loose on the streets.. I always told the owner to control the dog and if it attacked me,I was free to protect myself anyway I saw fit.Always got a stupid response like my dog don't bite etc,etc. Most owners are clueless. Had to beat down many a loose dog with the owner right by because he could not/or would not control dog.

[FPH]

A loose dog is a dead dog.  However, If my dogs are vaccinated and confined to my  property ( as they are), you best stay away from them and if you mess with them......be prepared for the consequences.

When I was meter reading,I had many instances where idiot owners had their dogs loose on the streets.. I always told the owner to control the dog and if it attacked me,I was free to protect myself anyway I saw fit.Always got a stupid response like my dog don't bite etc,etc. Most owners are clueless. Had to beat down many a loose dog with the owner right by because he could not/or would not control dog.

I rented a house with the gas meter located in the fenced dog's yard.....the dog was a professionally  trained attack Great Dane....the meter reader used binoculars.

[mauser98us]

Reread my statement, I was walking on a public street,where anybody can walk. I'm not talking about being in a backyard.

[FPH]

Not saying you did anything wrong....I think you misunderstood my thoughts.

[BBF]

Fewer dogs equals less noise and poop.  What's the down side?

You make noise and poop, too; often at the same time.   

Another post that should run for 'Best of the Year"   ROFLMBO

[fatercat]

my pets are well feed. well housed. under control. always kept on my property. see the vet every 6 months. get their shots. never and i say never get loose. you come on my property and kill anything, would be like killing my child, and i will try to kill you. i don't care who you are.

[gypsyman]

Because they can. Can also kill their wives, just ask Drew Peterson. gypsyman

[facetious]

 I guess it is easer to find a good dog then a good cop

[Victor3]

  On the surface it looks bad for the cop..but sometimes looks can be deceiving.  I would have to see & hear more of the circumstance before passing judgement.

  In this case, we just don't have enough info.. the cop could have been wrong..the dog's owner may have been wrong.

 Here's at least part of "the rest of the story." Watch the news video; the guy who filmed the incident gives a little more perspective...


http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20121126/NEWS11/311260009/Caught-video-Police-shoot-kill-dog-Commerce-City


 No need for the noosed dog to be shot. If the cops were so worried about it getting away and attacking someone they should have shot it beforehand while it just sat there. What did they think it was going to do after being tazed and noosed? Calm down?


 Notice that the cop who killed the dog was firing at a concrete driveway and porch with several other people around, including his fellow officers. Lousy gun safety. I almost wish he'd caught one of his ricochets in the leg. Or maybe up a little higher.

[coyotejoe]

When I read some of the replies here I have to wonder if they even looked at the videos. I watched most of them and I never saw anything remotely like what some people are saying, no pit bulls guarding drug stashes, no dogs attacking anyone, no dog acting threatening at all. I am a retired animal control officer and if I had ever observed police behavior like I saw on those videos I would certainly have preferred charges against the cop. In most instances there was never any need for the cop to mess with the dog at all, much less to kill it, in some cases there was not even any legitimate reason for the cop to be on the property. Quite certainly some of the shooting , if not all of it, could fairly be described as reckless discharge of a firearm. I guess some people will defend a cop no matter what, if a cop shoots you you must have had it coming.