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Makers Mark cutting alcohol in it's bourbon.
« on: February 12, 2013, 03:17:37 PM »
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Maker's Mark cutting alcohol volume in its bourbon  | Associated Press
  Posted on February 12, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Updated today at 10:01 AM   
 
   LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — The producer of Maker's Mark bourbon is cutting — likely permanently — the amount of alcohol in each bottle to stretch every drop of the famous Kentucky whiskey. The alcohol volume is being lowered from its historic level of 45 percent to 42 percent — or 90 proof to 84 proof.
 
The brand known for its square bottles sealed in red wax has struggled to keep up with demand that more than doubled the past seven years. Distribution has been squeezed and the popular premium brand has had to curtail shipments to some overseas markets.
"Over the last 100-plus days, there are many, many instances across lot of different cities where bars, restaurants, package stores have run low, run out," Rob Samuels, chief operating officer for Maker's Mark and grandson of the brand's founder, said Monday.
"Given the surge in demand outstripping supply, what we've decided to do very carefully is to slightly reduce the alcohol volume."
 
The recipe and production process will stay the same, except "a touch more water" will be added when the whiskey comes out of the barrel for bottling, Samuels said. The brand's bourbon is made at its distillery near the small town of Loretto, 45 miles south of Louisville.
Water is typically added before whiskey goes into the barrel for aging and after bourbon comes out for bottling, he said.
 
It's the first time the bourbon brand, more than a half-century old, has altered its proof or alcohol volume.
The lower alcohol volume is seen as permanent and will increase available volume by about 6 percent, Samuels said.
The change was done only after extensive testing showed it didn't alter the taste of Maker's Mark, he said.
"Paramount in our decision was ensuring the taste standard is exactly the same," Samuels said.
His father, Bill Samuels Jr., chairman emeritus of the brand started by his parents, said he thought his father would approve.
 
"He never really was wed to 90 proof anyway," the elder Samuels said. "It's just that he had to pick something, and he knew that anything over 90, the alcohol smothered the taste of whiskey and he was a little nervous about going too much lower."
Chuck Cowdery, an American whiskey writer and author of "Bourbon, Straight," said "time will tell" how the change sits with the brand's legions of devoted fans in an industry that clings tightly to tradition.
 
"They're banking that this won't be a deal-breaker with their consumers, that there will be a hew and cry for a few days, but sales won't miss a beat," he said in an email. "Are they right? Maker's is in many ways unique, so it's hard to say."
Maker's Mark is owned by spirits company Beam Inc., based in Deerfield, Ill. Its other brands include Jim Beam bourbon.
 
The supply shortage at Maker's Mark comes amid an ongoing expansion of its operations that has cost tens of millions of dollars.
A distillery expansion completed last year boosted production capacity by 45 percent, Rob Samuels said. Maker's last year added warehouse space for 100,000 more barrels of aging bourbon, and it expects that expansion pace to continue for at least another five years.
Maker's bourbon ages in barrels for at least six summers and no longer than seven years before bottling.
One shortcut the bourbon maker refuses to accept, Rob Samuels said, is trimming the aging process, which would increase market supplies. It also won't buy surplus whiskey from other distilleries, he said.
 
The supply shortage at Maker's comes amid growing demand for Kentucky bourbons in general.
Combined Kentucky bourbon and Tennessee whiskey sales from producers or suppliers to wholesalers rose 5.2 percent to 16.9 million cases last year, according to the Distilled Spirits Council, a national trade association that released figures last week. Revenue shot up 7.3 percent to $2.2 billion, it said. Premium brands, generally made in smaller batches with heftier prices, led sales and revenue gains.
 
Kentucky produces 95 percent of the world's bourbon supply, according to the Kentucky Distillers' Association. There are 4.9 million bourbon barrels aging in Kentucky, which outnumbers the state's population.
In the last year, Kentucky distilleries invested nearly $230 million in new and expanded production facilities, warehouses, visitor's centers, bottling lines and more, according to Eric Gregory, president of the Kentucky distillers' group. It's the largest expansion since Prohibition, he said.
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Re: Makers Mark cutting alcohol in it's bourbon.
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2013, 03:20:10 PM »
WHAT!!!???   :o   Oh the pain... the pain.   :'(
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2013, 03:24:12 PM »
makes that still idea i've been
mulling over for a while sound
more appealing.
if i wanted water i'd walk 15
steps to the blankety-blanking sink >:(
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2013, 11:02:37 PM »
I don't think it will change the flavor and I stopped drinking to get high/tight/drunk a long time ago.
I will still purchase----I like the taste.
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2013, 11:27:00 PM »
Jack Daniel did the same thing back in the 90s. Get a bottle of Everclear and you can raise the proof of anything.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2013, 12:22:12 AM »
Ahhhhhhh, Gentleman Jack. ;D
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2013, 12:53:41 AM »
  Oh zounds...and calamity..
     I have gotten along all these years without using any alcohol for internal consumption..and I think I'll make it the rest of the way..
  That being said, I certainly am not saying alcohol is useless, since I use it in it's various derivatives for cleaning, painting and medical scrub...along with occasional use  in gasoline tanks... ;) :D
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2013, 01:29:20 AM »
The Tennessee white whiskey I drink is only forty proof and very smooth, easy to drink.

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Re: Makers Mark cutting alcohol in it's bourbon.
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2013, 01:51:58 AM »
It's still a recipe for the DTs. Get them once if your lucky enough to survive them and you will never
look back . If you hands ever quiver while or after your drinking then your on the verge.
I've seen even avid drinkers experience muscular atrophy in their hands overnight for reasons they
can't explain. And it will never come back, at least if your going to drink lay flat on your back and
stay that way. The booze that helps you get to sleep is the same booze that renders your body's
ability to roll over while you are asleep useless. And not keep from cutting off the blood supply to an extremity such as your hands. Then when you wake up and a part of your hand looks like a deflated
ballon without that range of motion any longer it will get your attention.
You guys who love to shoot a Colt SAA are the ones who cry the most . Your thumb simply will no
longer be able to cock the hammer on the gun forcing you to use both hands.
Therapy will help some but you will never regain what you once had no matter what.
Just sayin
 


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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2013, 02:41:29 AM »
It's still a recipe for the DTs. Get them once if your lucky enough to survive them and you will never
look back . If you hands ever quiver while or after your drinking then your on the verge.
I've seen even avid drinkers experience muscular atrophy in their hands overnight for reasons they
can't explain. And it will never come back, at least if your going to drink lay flat on your back and
stay that way. The booze that helps you get to sleep is the same booze that renders your body's
ability to roll over while you are asleep useless. And not keep from cutting off the blood supply to an extremity such as your hands. Then when you wake up and a part of your hand looks like a deflated
ballon without that range of motion any longer it will get your attention.
You guys who love to shoot a Colt SAA are the ones who cry the most . Your thumb simply will no
longer be able to cock the hammer on the gun forcing you to use both hands.
Therapy will help some but you will never regain what you once had no matter what.
Just sayin

 
Wow and I though my mother,,, ahhh nevermind...
 
Poor management and it will likely cost them some faithful followers, but not likely hurt them in the long run... I have a buddy who had his name on a keg and he has been waiting patiently for about 5 years. He is trying to get ahold of them to see if they are going to cut his batch.
 
Luckily there is plenty of other good whiskey out there to chose from.
 
 
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Re: Makers Mark cutting alcohol in it's bourbon.
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2013, 05:25:30 AM »
It's still a recipe for the DTs....

picky, picky, picky....  ;D
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Re: Makers Mark cutting alcohol in it's bourbon.
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2013, 05:53:35 AM »
  Oh zounds...and calamity..
     I have gotten along all these years without using any alcohol for internal consumption..
I tried whiskey one time and had internal combustion.

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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2013, 08:06:29 AM »
One of the few bourbons that I like. Since I'm with W.Layton on this, alcohol content doesn't mean that much to me. I only have one or 2, relax's me. Woke up with plenty of hangovers 20 years ago. Learned to regulate, not regurgitate. :D gypsyman
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2013, 08:16:18 AM »
Are we talking a quart a day or a sip of Port after supper?

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Re: Makers Mark cutting alcohol in it's bourbon.
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2013, 08:25:48 AM »
My dad still thinks the watered down stuff is strong ;D I like it just fine watered down, more of a rum and scotch guy though

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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2013, 08:31:22 AM »
I had to pick up Pattys meds and went down the drink aisle and the MaKers on the shelf there was still 90 proof. Get it while they got it. POWDERMAN.  ;) ;)
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Re: Makers Mark cutting alcohol in it's bourbon.
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2013, 10:14:27 AM »
I'm amazed at how much alcohol there is in a lot of American liquors. I've had German wines that were quite palatable, but then had the same variety here and learned that it's a lot more ragged and has about half again the alcohol content. I think that lowering the alcohol content will make it a more desirable product as a sipping whiskey, at least if it doesn't embalm the inside of your mouth when you drink it.

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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2013, 10:27:43 AM »
High alcohol content does not improve the taste of anything.
I used to drink Bacardi 151, straight up, a lot till I came to my senses and decided that for taste dark rum with lower alcohol tasted far, far better.

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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2013, 10:40:50 AM »
I disagree, if it doesn't have that nice mellow burn all the way down you might as well put an umbrella in it.  84 proof should still have it, but it's the principal of the matter.  "Watered down bourbon " just is not a good selling point.
 
All this whiskey talk is making my mouth water... Gonna have to have a few fingers tonight of the real stuff... ;)
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Re: Makers Mark cutting alcohol in it's bourbon.
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2013, 11:12:11 AM »
more of a rum and scotch guy though

 ??? ...    :-\ ....  Now, I've had rum and coke, and I've had scotch and water, but I ain't never tried rum and scotch!   :o  I think you're my new hero!   ;D
 
I disagree, if it doesn't have that nice mellow burn all the way down you might as well put an umbrella in it.

I heard dat!   ;D  Heck! I always thought the ol' 100 proof Southern Comfort was girly tasting stuff!   8)  Well, actually it was...  :-\  So you mix it with a soft drink or fruit juice and feed it to them sweet young thangs!  Worked every time...   ;)     :-[  Or so I heard...  :-X
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Re: Makers Mark cutting alcohol in it's bourbon.
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2013, 01:05:35 PM »
It's still a recipe for the DTs. Get them once if your lucky enough to survive them and you will never
look back . If you hands ever quiver while or after your drinking then your on the verge.
I've seen even avid drinkers experience muscular atrophy in their hands overnight for reasons they
can't explain. And it will never come back, at least if your going to drink lay flat on your back and
stay that way. The booze that helps you get to sleep is the same booze that renders your body's
ability to roll over while you are asleep useless. And not keep from cutting off the blood supply to an extremity such as your hands. Then when you wake up and a part of your hand looks like a deflated
ballon without that range of motion any longer it will get your attention.
You guys who love to shoot a Colt SAA are the ones who cry the most . Your thumb simply will no
longer be able to cock the hammer on the gun forcing you to use both hands.
Therapy will help some but you will never regain what you once had no matter what.
Just sayin

 
Wow and I though my mother,,, ahhh nevermind...
 
Poor management and it will likely cost them some faithful followers, but not likely hurt them in the long run... I have a buddy who had his name on a keg and he has been waiting patiently for about 5 years. He is trying to get ahold of them to see if they are going to cut his batch.
 
Luckily there is plenty of other good whiskey out there to chose from.


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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2013, 01:09:06 PM »
As long as I can get an ice cold Coors......I could care less.

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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2013, 01:22:53 PM »
 :D...now...i didn't originally mean it like that but... now that i think about it, that might not be too bad

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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2013, 01:29:57 PM »
Don't drink that evil brew ! I'm going to flush it all down the toilet were it belongs  !  ;D

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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2013, 03:16:35 PM »
It's still a recipe for the DTs. Get them once if your lucky enough to survive them and you will never
look back . If you hands ever quiver while or after your drinking then your on the verge.
I've seen even avid drinkers experience muscular atrophy in their hands overnight for reasons they
can't explain. And it will never come back, at least if your going to drink lay flat on your back and
stay that way. The booze that helps you get to sleep is the same booze that renders your body's
ability to roll over while you are asleep useless. And not keep from cutting off the blood supply to an extremity such as your hands. Then when you wake up and a part of your hand looks like a deflated
ballon without that range of motion any longer it will get your attention.
You guys who love to shoot a Colt SAA are the ones who cry the most . Your thumb simply will no
longer be able to cock the hammer on the gun forcing you to use both hands.
Therapy will help some but you will never regain what you once had no matter what.
Just sayin

 
Wow and I though my mother,,, ahhh nevermind...
 
Poor management and it will likely cost them some faithful followers, but not likely hurt them in the long run... I have a buddy who had his name on a keg and he has been waiting patiently for about 5 years. He is trying to get ahold of them to see if they are going to cut his batch.
 
Luckily there is plenty of other good whiskey out there to chose from.


I may not be your mother , but I am like your mean little sister . Someone has to gripe at you guys
to take care of yourselves .

Women just can't help themselves but to nag about something... ;)
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« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2013, 01:07:07 AM »
OK BUTTT---if your gonna get nagged to death they aught to be as good looking as Anna and Sharonann.
Now, my bride of 50 years comes by the nomeclature "The Hen" honestly---she's still around--and as good looking as the day I duped her into saying yes.
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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2013, 01:42:11 AM »
Don't drink that evil brew ! I'm going to flush it all down the toilet were it belongs  !  ;D

The biggest problem with that is the lack of sparkling water with the depth of a finely crafted belgian ale... or relaxing as a springtime wheat with lemon and coriander... otherwise i'd be fine just drinking my green tea all the time, i already do anyway

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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2013, 02:12:32 AM »
Women just can't help themselves but to nag about something... ;)


Oh you love it ! Just admit it.  ;D

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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2013, 02:28:54 AM »
Women just can't help themselves but to nag about something... ;)


Oh you love it ! Just admit it.  ;D

 
Ha, probably one of the reason the world is short of whiskey...
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Re: Makers Mark cutting alcohol in it's bourbon.
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2013, 07:23:40 AM »
YOU GUYS ARE KILLING ME!!!   ::)
 
Feeding me all these straight lines...  I thought of responses I don't dare post 'cause they were sure to get deleted and probably get me kicked off GBO!!!
 
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