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Offline Dresden

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raging Against Self Defence
« on: February 13, 2013, 02:10:35 PM »



A great article on JPFO.org...Jews for Preservation of Firearms Ownership, I suggest joining this organization,
I am proud to be a Founding Member.

http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/ragingagainstselfdefense.htm


This is Rabbi Bendory's letter to the Mayor of New York....http://jpfo.org/rabbi/rabbi-bloomberg-letter.htm


The Torah commands you to defend yourself and your family, and your neighbor, evil must be resisted.

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Re: raging Against Self Defence
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2013, 02:25:55 PM »
Excellent post.  Everyone should defend themselves instead of being a stationary target.  For the information, I can only say "To-da".  I hope I got the spelling right.

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Re: raging Against Self Defence
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2013, 02:29:14 PM »
As a founding member myself I personally prefer JPFO's hard stance to that of the NRA. There's some good stuff on the site!
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Re: raging Against Self Defence
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2013, 03:08:35 PM »
I especially enjoyed the letter to bloomburg. It exposes his daily hypocracy. He should walk the streets of NYC one night alone. He would have his opinion changed, if he survived.
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Re: raging Against Self Defence
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2013, 06:34:29 AM »
The Bloomberg letter did almost disappoint me. The mandatory Hitler reference wasn't within the first paragraph. BTW. Mr Rabbi, what bout the Palestinians and their gun rights??
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Re: raging Against Self Defence
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2013, 06:52:28 AM »
Like most great post or statements the Rabbi only stated the simple truth. There is no defense the mayor can offer that a honest man could support. The Rabbi like most may realize that talk will seldom change the mind of someone who has a closed mind but the need of a gun when they do not have one has changed the stance of many a gun grabber . Owning a gun gives one a choice not owning one gives one no chance.
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Re: raging Against Self Defence
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2013, 04:24:46 AM »
Anglo-Arab relations have always been rather one sided and strained in the past, our British cousins colonialism was the main cause.  Palestine was the area that now is Israel, Jordan, and Syria, the bulk of it being in Syria.


The Turks ran the area for long time, Jews were welcome there, to buy land and live. in peace. The Turks however were allies with Germany in WW1, and when the Brits, (Laurence of Arabia) conquered the area they
stayed after the war like they always do.


The Arabs who fought with the Brits were rewarded with land,they were nomads, and countries were formed. The Jewish bankers financed the wars and Britain delivered a country in 1947.


The Palestinians lost the war with the Jewish immigrants and were in effect put in reservations, are they good people, if I look at what they did to Lebanon, who gave them shelter when their fellow Arabs in Syria drove them out at gun point, I would say no.


IMHO, they should lay down all weapons, and open resorts and casinos on the coast, clean up their act and join civilization.


Do a Wikipedia search on Syria & Jordan, countries since after WW1, look up Lebanon, a country for 7000 years








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Re: raging Against Self Defence
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2013, 12:05:54 PM »
borders in the middle east are like sand and water, flowing, changeable. To say any one name was actually a country is to claim that water, as ice is unchangeable.
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Re: raging Against Self Defence
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2013, 08:23:11 AM »
borders in the middle east are like sand and water, flowing, changeable. To say any one name was actually a country is to claim that water, as ice is unchangeable.


Well, that can be true anywhere. We're very lucky to have Mexico and Canada on our borders; it's not like having the USSR or Germany on either side, or an expansionist zionist state on border. Lots of the US used to be Mexican; didn't we forcibly grab about half of Mexico in the 1840s?  Manifest Destiny - 'Gott Mitt Uns' or something like that?
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Re: raging Against Self Defence
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2013, 08:29:49 AM »
I love how one post on supporting gun rights and self defense turns into a dispute over world-wide land battles.  ;)
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2013, 08:37:46 AM »
I love how one post on supporting gun rights and self defense turns into a dispute over world-wide land battles.  ;)
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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2013, 08:40:45 AM »
lets see part of the USA came from the Adams Onis treaty , an agreement . Part came when Texas , a country in it's own right joined the union and yes some after the American Mexican war. In most cases the people wanted to be part of the USA . The reality New Spain , Mexico could not be controled from Spain or protect it's citizens .
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Re: raging Against Self Defence
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2013, 10:39:25 AM »
Thats why the French tried to go through mexico to get back to America....


And why we learned that the French aren't very good at war.


Cinco de Mayo!!  At least the Mexicans and French gave us a good reason to have some chelas. 
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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2013, 11:02:30 AM »
If the French had not been good at war and blocked any help to reinforce Cornwallace at Yorktown Va. we might have had gun control back in the day . And I really don't care for the French that much but not all French are cowards . Consider the French Fleet was in the Chesapeke Bay with no hope of escape if the British came with a superior force. And they stood their ground (water ;D ).
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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2013, 11:05:30 AM »
Yeah but the only reason they helped was because they knew that couldn't defeat England on their own, and the only way to get territory was to stop England's reign and make a run of their own.
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Re: raging Against Self Defence
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2013, 12:06:06 AM »
oh man... let's bash the French, those cheese-eating surrender monkeys.


But then if we discuss their battle for France, and the French troops who held of the Germans at Dunkirk... they won't seem so surrender-prone. Check out those casualty figures.
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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2013, 12:26:09 AM »
And they say the French are un gratefull  ::)
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Re: raging Against Self Defence
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2013, 07:41:59 AM »
and after Dunkirk they surrendered to the Nazis in spite of having more and better tanks. Later our NATO 'allies' forbid our planes to flyover on the way to bomb Gadaffi. We may have lost a plane and crew because of that. I have no use for the french or their cousins in Canada.
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