cats

[45-70.gov]

use a catch'n alive trap
after 24 hours  shake well and release.........might add a nasty note or paint ..or old motor oil

What are you baiting with? It was my intention to trap the neighbor cats and drop them off at animal control so they have to pay to get them back. I figured if they had to fork out cash a few times they might think twice about turning the cats loose during the day to tear up my garden. My plan never worked. Those little vermin never come near the trap

i worked at a restaraunt with a cat problem
after  i shot a dozen  people feeding them started  whining
so a started trapping them......i know it was wrong  but  i started relocating them
probly 20 or 30  over 6 months
i just paited them with  what ever  meat on hand...mostly fish
many  were caught with just an empty trap  they intered out of curiosity
or  maybe  i just  had one in there that was in  heat  prior

[Ranger99]

baloney or any lunch meat
past it's prime works well.

[vabeachman]

We used to use them for fox bait.  My dogs use them to play tug of war with if they are stupid enough to get into yard.  Free roaming house/feral cats devastate the native wildlife.

[Oldshooter]

Free roaming house/feral cats devastate the native wildlife.

Yep! I have said it before, maybe on this thread. 

[JonnyReb]

  Shooting cats "just because" has never crossed my mind till i read this thread. Was really surprised at how many on here go to lengths to kill a cat,,jaw traps..dogs..treble hooks..antifreeze.. guess you guys have short hunting seasons in your state? .

  In thinking back over the years i've only shot cats that needed to be put down anyways..dying pets, roadside cats hit by cars. Never because of the depleted sparrow population or from muddy pawprints on my truck. If i see a stray i'll typically feed it.

  I mostly have shot dogs, either roadside strays suffering from being hit or strays in my yard before i fenced it all. I've always had 5-8 dogs myself and the last thing i need was for a dumped pit bull to show up looking for home. I felt bad for them but someone (lots of fighting dogs raised around here)dumped quite a few of them over the years closeby and my house was the first they came too. Friendly ones got the pound called, 2 or 3 real sweethearts got taken in and their shot and neuter\spay, then were adopted out. Sadly mistreated fighters were mostly buried down by the creek. One case in particular was an 140-150lb MONSTER of a crossbreed, Pit and mastiff maybe but honestly i don't know. It was black and had close cut ears and tail, i awoke one sunday morning to hear my mother in law screaming outside..the dog had just wandered up apparently and when she walked over from her house the animal had appeared and began running at her. The 70 year old woman literally scaled my wifes jeep Cherokee trying to escape the animal. When i ran out, t shirt, boxers and a glock .40, the animal ran straight at me. I dropped him at about 5-7 feet with a single absolutely perfect shot between the eyes. The animal dropped with hardly a quiver and now i kinda know what its like to be charged by a maneater. Thank you Lord for guiding that shot.

  Won't give anyone hell about killing cats, none of my business so long as their not mine and on my property. Anyone who kills cruelly however, has issues way beyond turds in their bushes. 

 

[blind ear]

Yes, a nickle cartridge can save the neighborhood a lot of trouble. ear

[Dee]

I would agree on killing cruelly. I don't think I could poison anything. At the present I mostly use live traps, and take them for a ride. Our little town no longer has animal control officers, and to turn them over to the custody of the pound your charged $45.00, even though the cat isn't yours.
While some might not understand why I don't want my front yard used and smelling like a litter box, I don't understand why someone would want the mess of 7 or 8 dogs unless dogs were their way of making their income. I don't have a short hunting season anymore, as I don't hunt anymore, but as I said earlier, if folks kept them up, there wouldn't be a problem. But they don't.
So weather it's cat crap, or dog crap, it smells, and is unhealthy, and I have no intention livin with it, weather anyone agrees with it, likes it, or understands it. It's nasty.

[JonnyReb]

 I'm with you on the bullet being a good way to go ear, quick and efficient.

 Dee i hope i didn't pinpoint you as the cat poop in the bushes guy , As i meant to say somewhere in my ramble, i don't walk in anyone elses shoes and try hard not to judge..whoever it was that mentioned the treble hook though seems a bit outside the bounds of ethical pest removal in my opinion. My grandfather was fond of antifreeze to thin the local cat population,, seen that before and its a hard way to go. Bullets can be pretty darned merciful, are plenty of us here on the forum that'll someday only wish for that easy way out.

  So far as dogs, i have a few pets and i had hunting dogs penned for the last 20 years or so. Mostly walkers and they get the bullet too, at the end. A few were put down by the mobile vet and i truely believe a well placed bullet is superior to the pink stuff in his vial. No doubt no matter what we are born as, our time comes to leave the world and the only options at that time is whether you leave easy or kicking and screaming..i like to think that what comes around goes around and so i try to be merciful in my dealing with critters.  J
   

[Dee]

I agree. For my outside dogs (half acre chain link fence) I put them down with a little Browning. Quick and hopefully painless (same way for the cats), but for Linda's little house dogs she has to have a vet put'em down. Cant stand the thought. I have markers i put up and bury the pets beside each other. I used t listen to guys years ago talk about "trot lining" for geese and ducks. I never wanted duck or goose that bad.

[Dee]

Oops! Double post

[45-70.gov]

as a child i remember  our neighbors 
put out their dogs every morning
they crapped in our yard went home  and  the owners went to work
my dad  ask them several times  to keep the dogs  home
they  made the mistake of  getting too smart with my  DAD
he  was a doctor  with access to some very serious drugs
i was probly  10  and still remember him  rolling the pills  in the meatballs  and laughing
next  morning the dogs came by  crapped and ate the meatballs  and went  home
the owners went to work  with the 2 LARGE DOGS  in the house


from what i remember about the  whole neighbor hood talking and laughing
THE LAXITIVES  HAD THE DESIRED EFFECT

[Dee]

Now that would be funny

[vabeachman]

If a cat is stupid enough to enter my yard, the dogs will get it.  Have 4 foot chain link around it all. Cats are a nonnative species, just like carp, starlings, and boa constrictors.  When I take my dogs out for walks/hunting, I supervise them.  How many people supervise their cats when they put them out? Most just put them out and forget about them. Cats should not be allowed to roam free.  I used to frequently see bobwhite quail in my yard, but haven't seen them for years, also rabbits.  What I do see now are house/feral cats roaming. It is cat owners fault if their cat ends up dead, just like it would be my fault if my dogs died if I let my dogs roam freely. Keep control of your animal, be a good neighbor.

[Dee]

Your mention bobwhite quail, and the absence there of, brings back memories of covies of 25 birds or more. Now with farmers using big foldout "spray rigs" in what is now "chemical farming", where quail, rabbits, and their nests are "SOAKED" with chemicals several times a year, combined with feral, and "owned" cats, along with town folk haulin cats to the country, quail and rabbits have no chance.
This analogy tends to make farmers and cat lovers mad, but it is, what it is.

[Oldshooter]

Only Fireants here are responsible for more quail deaths. Cats will find a nest and play with chics till they die then walk away or carry one to their own front door. Same with rabbits. I shoot em on sight(cats). When I'm on the highway I wont target one but I wont dodge it either.

[Dee]

Ya know you get away from farm land into ranch land, you find quail south of here, and they had fire ants years before we did. Fire ants do get their share.

[JonnyReb]

 I gotta agree about the quail. 25 years ago we knew where the coveys were in the farmers hedgerows. They were somewhere close no matter when we went. Didn't even need a dog. Now theres cats roaming all those same grounds and not a quail to be found. Turns out it was those 200,000 homes that got thrown up on the old farms in the 90's did em in. The cats came with the people and as mentioned, people arn't responsible. Every animal i have is fixed and contained, cats included. Stray cats that were wanders get eaten by coyote? within a few months of their arrival. Somehow the coyote showed up here with all those houses and cats too didn't they?. Its a wonder turkey have done so well in this area. J

[hunt-m-up]

One of the most cruel things people tend to do is take their unwanted pets, cats and dogs, into the country and dump them off to apparently run free like the wild animals they think they are. If the coyotes don't kill them or if they don't get hit on the road or shot running someones livestock, they stand a good chance of starving. That's very cruel as well as disrespectful to the people who have to deal with them.
It's interesting how some want to kill every dog that's running deer, but can't seem to understand the impact cats have on gamebirds.

[JonnyReb]

One of the most cruel things people tend to do is take their unwanted pets, cats and dogs, into the country and dump them off to apparently run free like the wild animals they think they are. If the coyotes don't kill them or if they don't get hit on the road or shot running someones livestock, they stand a good chance of starving. That's very cruel as well as disrespectful to the people who have to deal with them.

  Well said.

[FPH]

One of the most cruel things people tend to do is take their unwanted pets, cats and dogs, into the country and dump them off to apparently run free like the wild animals they think they are. If the coyotes don't kill them or if they don't get hit on the road or shot running someones livestock, they stand a good chance of starving. That's very cruel as well as disrespectful to the people who have to deal with them.

  Well said.

I live in the sticks.....all my dogs have been dumped.  I only have four now and I've placed well over 25......I'm running out of people who will talk to with me.  I've taken in 3 since the economy hit the skids.

[streak]

I cannot remember the magazine that I have where there is an article about feral cats that had reproduced. The litters were naturally wild and some of these cats according to this article grew to fairly good size felines. They also were very secretive, yet agressive, and were inclined to become excellent tree climbers!
 I will try and find that article in my hundreds of magazines!!
If I am not mistaken some of these " Tabbies" went up to 12-15 pounds!!
can you imagine the devastation they caused with the surrounding wildlife!!

[JonnyReb]

I live in the sticks.....all my dogs have been dumped.  I only have four now and I've placed well over 25......I'm running out of people who will talk to with me.  I've taken in 3 since the economy hit the skids.

  Well God bless you FPH, you are good people. Exceptional really and the world needs more like you.  J

[FPH]

Just don't like to see suffering.   Wish I could help more.

[JonnyReb]

 Geez and i see we use the same motor oil too, you are a long lost brother

  Was talking to a unique customer today as a matter of fact on a related subject. His name is Peter Marmaranu and he was a famous czeck tennis player in the early 70's. Hes in his 60's now and lives here in N.C.. He is a bigtime animal advocate and he was telling me that in eastern europe where he was from, their is no animal control and people routinely dump their animals in the same place, thousands every year, big, little, cat , dog to eat each other or die, in the end all die. Very sad and it affected him greatly as he told this. I ask him why Americans are different. He said "Americans have hearts" and lightly pounded his chest. I always believed that was true too. May not always be of course but i was raised to think that way. j
 

[FPH]

Thanks for your kind words.  As you said, it's just how we were raised.