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Most people use social media like Facebook and Twitter to share photos of friends and family, chat with friends and strangers about random and amusing diversions, or follow their favorite websites, bands and television shows.

But what does the US military use those same networks for? Well, we can’t tell you: That’s “classified,” a CENTCOM spokesman recently informed Raw Story.

One use that’s confirmed, however, is the manipulation of social media through the use of fake online “personas” managed by the military. Recently the US Air Force had solicited private sector vendors for something called “persona management software.” Such a technology would allow single individuals to command virtual armies of fake, digital “people” across numerous social media portals.

These “personas” were to have detailed, fictionalized backgrounds, to make them believable to outside observers, and a sophisticated identity protection service was to back them up, preventing suspicious readers from uncovering the real person behind the account. They even worked out ways to game geolocating services, so these “personas” could be virtually inserted anywhere in the world, providing ostensibly live commentary on real events, even while the operator was not really present.

When Raw Story first reported on the contract for this software, it was unclear what the Air Force wanted with it or even if it had been acquired. The potential for misuse, however, was abundantly clear.

A fake virtual army of people could be used to help create the impression of consensus opinion in online comment threads, or manipulate social media to the point where valuable stories are suppressed.

Ultimately, this can have the effect of causing a net change to the public’s opinions and understanding of key world events.

Wired.com published an article how US spies are making investments in the Company In-Q-Tel in order to monitor your blogs and read your tweets.

In-Q-Tel, the investment arm of the CIA and the wider intelligence community, is putting cash into Visible Technologies, a software firm that specializes in monitoring social media. It’s part of a larger movement within the spy services to get better at using “open source intelligence” – information that’s publicly available, but often hidden in the flood of TV shows, newspaper articles, blog posts, online videos and radio reports generated every day.

Visible crawls over half a million web 2.0 sites a day, s****ing more than a million posts and conversations taking place on blogs, online forums, Flickr, YouTube, Twitter and Amazon. (It doesn’t touch closed social networks, like Facebook, at the moment.) Customers get customized, real-time feeds of what’s being said on these sites, based on a series of keywords.

“That’s kind of the basic step – get in and monitor,” says company senior vice president Blake Cahill.

Then Visible “scores” each post, labeling it as positive or negative, mixed or neutral. It examines how influential a conversation or an author is. (“Trying to determine who really matters,” as Cahill puts it.) Finally, Visible gives users a chance to tag posts, forward them to colleagues and allow them to response through a web interface.

In-Q-Tel says it wants Visible to keep track of foreign social media, and give spooks “early-warning detection on how issues are playing internationally,” spokesperson Donald Tighe tells Danger Room.

Of course, such a tool can also be pointed inward, at domestic bloggers or tweeters. Visible already keeps tabs on web 2.0 sites for Dell, AT&T and Verizon. For Microsoft, the company is monitoring the buzz on its Windows 7 rollout. For Spam-maker Hormel, Visible is tracking animal-right activists’ online campaigns against the company.

“Anything that is out in the open is fair game for collection,” says Steven Aftergood, who tracks intelligence issues at the Federation of American Scientists. But “even if information is openly gathered by intelligence agencies it would still be problematic if it were used for unauthorized domestic investigations or operations. Intelligence agencies or employees might be tempted to use the tools at their disposal to compile information on political figures, critics, journalists or others, and to exploit such information for political advantage. That is not permissible even if all of the information in question is technically ‘open source.’”

Visible chief executive officer Dan Vetras says the CIA is now an “end customer,” thanks to the In-Q-Tel investment. And more government clients are now on the horizon. “We just got awarded another one in the last few days,” Vetras adds.

Tighe disputes this – sort of. “This contract, this deal, this investment has nothing to do with any agency of government and this company,” he says. But Tighe quickly notes that In-Q-Tel does have “an interested end customer” in the intelligence community for Visibile. And if all goes well, the company’s software will be used in pilot programs at that agency. “In pilots, we use real data. And during the adoption phase, we use it real missions.”

Neither party would disclose the size of In-Q-Tel’s investment in Visible, a 90-person company with expected revenues of about $20 million in 2010. But a source familiar with the deal says the In-Q-Tel cash will be used to boost Visible’s foreign languages capabilities, which already include Arabic, French, Spanish and nine other languages.

Visible has been trying for nearly a year to break into the government field. In late 2008, the company teamed up with the Washington, DC, consulting firm Concepts & Strategies, which has handled media monitoring and translation services for U.S. Strategic Command and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, among others. On its website, Concepts & Strategies is recruiting “social media engagement specialists” with Defense Department experience and a high proficiency in Arabic, Farsi, French, Urdu or Russian. The company is also looking for an “information system security engineer” who already has a “Top Secret SCI [Sensitive Compartmentalized Information] with NSA Full Scope Polygraph” security clearance.

The intelligence community has been interested in social media for years. In-Q-Tel has sunk money into companies like Attensity, which recently announced its own web 2.0-monitoring service. The agencies have their own, password-protected blogs and wikis – even a MySpace for spooks. The Office of the Director of National Intelligence maintains an Open Source Center, which combs publicly available information, including web 2.0 sites. Doug Naquin, the Center’s Director, told an audience of intelligence professionals in October 2007 that “we’re looking now at YouTube, which carries some unique and honest-to-goodness intelligence…. We have groups looking at what they call ‘citizens media’: people taking pictures with their cell phones and posting them on the internet. Then there’s social media, phenomena like MySpace and blogs.”

But, “the CIA specifically needs the help of innovative tech firms to keep up with the pace of innovation in social media. Experienced IC [intelligence community] analysts may not be the best at detecting the incessant shift in popularity of social-networking sites. They need help in following young international internet user-herds as they move their allegiance from one site to another,” Lewis Shepherd, the former senior technology officer at the Defense Intelligence Agency, says in an e-mail. “Facebook says that more than 70 percent of its users are outside the U.S., in more than 180 countries. There are more than 200 non-U.S., non-English-language microblogging Twitter-clone sites today. If the intelligence community ignored that tsunami of real-time information, we’d call them incompetent.”

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Re: CIA admits full monitoring of facebook and other social networks.
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2013, 04:57:24 AM »
What is nonsensical, when you tell people about what is happening they yell "grab the tin foil hat". For those looking it is as plain as day however most dont, that is why it works. 
Just like watching tv or the news, any station. You are giving them money to shove a red hot poker up your A$$ and destroy what freedom you and your family have left.
Notice how the families of those on the cruise ship cant get any info from the cruise lines. They are steering the show. Make it something it is not. They use the same propaganda tactics the government elite do.

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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2013, 02:51:39 PM »
About 5yrs ago, I had a girl friend that through much whining and bickering lured me into openeing a FB acct.  About 3 wks of it being open, I had about 200 friends of people that I did not know, telling me every little intracite detail about thier lives.  My GF actually was adding friends to my acct because she tld me that it wasnt cool to not have may friends on FB.  I told her that people I dont know are not considered my friends, and most people I know are not considered friends.
 
After about 2 more weeks of reading about people spilling their entire lives, private moments, and dirty laundry on the WWW for the entire FB nation to read, I tried to cancel my acct.  Several times.  FB for whatever reason will not close your acct.  I least I could not get them to close my acct.  here it is present day and several requests later (I gave up about 3yrs ago), my acct sits there dormant as all dormant can be.
 
FB is pure evil that brings to your computer a complete falshood of what life is suposed to be.  I dont even want my picture to be on anyone's acct.  I tell my friends all the time to NOT post my pic on their acct.  Sheeple are the biengs that live on FB.  I understand that some folks use it to connect with long lost friends and what not, but most of it is pure garbage.  I am not surprised in the least that the govnmt monitors it.  People will post just about everything about themselves on it.
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Re: CIA admits full monitoring of facebook and other social networks.
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2013, 03:25:33 PM »
I love Facebook and I hope the CIA gets an ear full.  I don't care who knows I hate the government and Obama.  You can close your account anytime you wish.
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2013, 03:51:12 PM »
ROFLMAO!    I love it.  I think FB is probably the dumbest thing to come along in awhile (and there's plenty of dumb out there for competition).  Most of the time, I don't want my family (outside of immediate) knowing what I'm doing.  Why in the world would I go online and tell millions of faceless strangers about my "doings"?   A big problem for many is when that FB picture of their trip to Mexico shows up on an employer's computer 5 or 6 years down the line, while they are trying to get hired for a new job.  Pure idiocy.  If you want to tell the world your secrets, you can't whine when the world knows your secrets.
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2013, 05:27:58 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2013, 05:37:04 PM »
It is not just facebook. Many people here at gbo have put themselves on government lists for making foolish threats, being internet Rambos.  :o :o

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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2013, 11:47:05 PM »
 I'm not on FB and probably never will be but I can see some pretty cool things about it (my Wife has an account).


 Guy at work has shown me pics of he and his family, posted by childhood friends that were taken decades ago when they were kids in the Philippines. Things long forgotten that can bring back good memories.


 Then there are the pics showing what someone is having for dinner. ???


 Judging from what my Wife has shown me, FB is largely an avenue for people to express what they - but few others - feel is somehow significant. A useful place for the average narcissist to spar with like-minded "friends."
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2013, 11:49:04 PM »
Anyone that thinks they have secrets is a fool.  An employer can't see what's on your FB page.  You just have to understand your settings.
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2013, 11:57:08 PM »
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Anyone that thinks they have secrets is a fool

Did you type this correctly?
 
Becasue I have plenty of secrets that other friends and even family members don't know about.  And I don't plan on coming off of some of them anytime soon. 
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2013, 11:58:21 PM »
Said it and meant it....still do.
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2013, 06:19:38 AM »
In my house if I fail to wish the wife happy birthday, or valentines, or anniversary or what ever on FB it causes dischord even if I just expressed those tidings face to face. It is asinine.
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2013, 08:17:51 AM »
I have mixed emoitions about posting now  ;D ::)
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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2013, 10:02:17 AM »
I agree with the FB thing. I will never use it. I once created an account just to see what all the fuss is about. Its just a bunch of people spilling their guts about their lives and what they are doing. What gets me is that people will post on FB things like "hey I'm going to France on vacation for two weeks" then wonder why their house is empty when they get home.   
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2013, 10:15:35 AM »
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Anyone that thinks they have secrets is a fool.  An employer can't see what's on your FB page.

 
 
 
Taken together, those two statements are rather foolish.
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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2013, 12:05:21 PM »
Well yeah!,,,,you're just finding this out now...!  WWW  and social media are great data mines and great 'steering' centers....very useful for the PTB.
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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2013, 01:26:26 PM »
FB is no different then GB.
If you don't want it known then don't post it!
 
As far as being on a gov list, most of us on here are on that list.
Who cares?
They already know about any gun you have bought through an FFL in the past how many years.
They know I can't stand what THE LIAR IN THE WHITEHOUSE has and is doing to this country, see, I just told them again I don't like him!
It doesn't bother me that they know this, that is why I am not afraid to post it.
There is still plenty that the gov or anyone else for that matter doesn't know about me and will never know unless I choose to tell it!!!
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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2013, 01:39:42 PM »
They already know about any gun you have bought through an FFL in the past how many years.

How would they know?
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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2013, 04:51:05 PM »
They already know about any gun you have bought through an FFL in the past how many years.

How would they know?


According to a friend that works for the department says they routinely check records on firearms purchasers.
They don't keep the records but that they do check them and especially on anyone that buys/sells a lot of them a year.
 
 
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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2013, 05:24:38 PM »
If one is so naive as to think they are not monitoring even GBO well I got a bridge to sell ya. Patriot act at work gives broad latitudes.
If you don't want it scrutinized don't put it out in permanent footprint cyberspace. My wife FB's , I have never had any interest.

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« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2013, 05:30:26 PM »
FB is no different then GB.
If you don't want it known then don't post it!..........
 
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« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2013, 10:36:23 PM »
They already know about any gun you have bought through an FFL in the past how many years.

How would they know?


 They don't (conspiracy theories aside, of course).


 Personal data from the 4473 we fill out is used to perform a background check via NICS. By law, the data is not recorded. The FFL just gets a yes or no on eligibility to transfer to the buyer (usually by phone). There isn't even a mechanism to record if the sale was actually completed (like if a buyer put the gun on layaway and then couldn't pay for it) or not.


 4473 forms must be retained by the FFL for 20 years. If an FFL doesn't renew his licence after that time, the forms are handed over to the ATF for filing. They are prevented by law from using data from them to compile any database.


 4473 forms held by individual FFLs are often audited by the ATF to verify that dealers are following the law. Other law enforcement agencies also go through them during investigations of specific gun-related crimes if they have reason to believe that a suspect bought a particular firearm from a particular dealer.


 
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« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2013, 02:19:32 AM »
Exactly.....they don't really know.
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« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2013, 02:37:52 AM »
If  I  can  use  goggle  earth  maps and  zoom in right  down  to  the  roof  of  your house ,just  imagine  what  big  brother can  do.

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« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2013, 02:57:43 AM »
You are right that they themselves can't keep a file of the guns you buy but according to my friend they do keep your name as a person that has bought a firearm sometime after the NICS system was started.
According to my friend all they have to do is type in your name and request search FFL sales and any dealer that is set up to do a background check electronically will come up.
If you bought a firearm from one of those dealers then your name will show up.
After that all they have to do is contact that dealer and request/demand the info.
The only thing I didn't ask him was are all registered FFL holders set up for electronic back ground checks.
I would think that there are many small FFLs that are not but I may be wrong.
I am not an FFL holder, therefore I do not know all the laws or rules they must follow pertaining to records keeping.
I am just passing along what my friend has stated.
 
 
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« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2013, 03:44:53 AM »
Well, they are breaking the law....
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« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2013, 03:48:20 AM »
It doesn't apear that they care Swampman.
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Re: CIA admits full monitoring of facebook and other social networks.
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2013, 04:17:05 AM »
It's also illegal to use your SS # as a form of ID......
 
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Re: CIA admits full monitoring of facebook and other social networks.
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2013, 04:58:25 AM »
You are not required to put your SSN on the form.
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Re: CIA admits full monitoring of facebook and other social networks.
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2013, 05:09:01 AM »
Well, they are breaking the law....

Like that ever stopped the government.
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