New Handi Combo

[godogz]

Sold a couple of old mosins that were just collecting dust -  for $260. Told my wife that I wanted to buy a  Handi because my son's 270 did so well for me this past deer season (plus he's got one for the last 3 yrs with it). There on the shelf was a new combo H&R SC2-S06 Handi-Rifle for $259.99. Can you believe that? I don't know if it was a great deal, but for me it seemed like a good trade up from a couple of old war horses. It is the combo package (30-06 and 20 ga).


Is there anything I need to do to prepare it for as breaking it in - or should it be ready as is to scope and shoot this summer to get ready for next deer season? I also have a youth stock laying around - anyone have good luck with the reduced recoil rounds from Remington in this set-up for a youngster?

[godogz]

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[blind ear]

Don't clean the bore on the 06 and if it isn't grouping with something when you get it, in about 60 rounds it will start to tighten up. If you have any ftf that will be a different problem, probably not. ear

[petemi]

I've had the same problem with "not allowed".  Hopefully Matt will make it go away.

No, there's really nothing you "must" do except get the manufacturing gunk out of it and make sure the latch shelf is dry and spotless.  Then shoot it.  Many, if not most Handis, just climb out of the box and shoot.  A few might need a number of break in rounds or a tad of tweaking.  I haven't had to do very much if any of that.  Good luck and enjoy it with your kid.

Pete

[YRUpunting?]

Congrats on the combo.  I've only seen the 06 and 20ga combo a couple of times.  When you do get to shoot it, I'm curious to your opinion on which barrel has more recoil?

There was a discussion on reduced loads in the 30.06 a week or two ago in the reloading forum here, it has some great info.  If your loads are not creating enough pressure to fully fire form the case then you need to limit the number of reloads for those cases and separate them from full load cases.   

[quickdtoo]

Congrats on the combo!! Search is disabled. 

Tim

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,275010.msg1099662175.html#msg1099662175

[tobster]

Sounds like a good deal to me. Was this at a local gunshop?

[godogz]

Thanks for the replies:


Yes, this was a local Gun Shop (Gary's Guns in Muskegon, MI). Seems to be a fair shop, with decent ammo prices. Owners are always at the counter w/ a friendly "Hi" when you walk in. Nice to keep business in the small shops to keep money local as much as possible.


I don't reload - are there issues when firing the Remington Reduced Recoil rounds in the Handi's for the .06?


Are the .06 known to kick hard in the Handi - If I swap out the synthetic to wood, would that be better? My son's 270 is a regular pallet wood edition and didn't have a big kick at full Core Loct load, so didn't think the 30.06 would either? I started him out on the reduced recoil rounds when he was 12 and we moved up to regular loads by 14. Thought about doing the same w/ his younger brother but with this new Handi.


I used my son's 270 to change my luck up towards the end of deer season this year, and enjoyed using it - but have not seen any other 270's around my area or I would have bought another one for his brother. Is there really any difference between the Combo Handi edition (besides synthetic) vs the Pallet Wood edition my older son has?


A lot of questions - should have asked before buying. Just saw the deal and thought I couldn't pass it up.

[Spanky]

I've got an aught six Handi and it's a great shooter. Recoil depends on what you feed it... 150gr. bullets will give you a lighter kick than 220gr. bullets will. Lighter bullet equals lighter kick.
Stock design will make a difference too. I used to have an old style synthetic monte carlo stock on it and it would hit my cheek pretty hard. I switched to a low comb old style synthetic set and had open sights put on it and it's like a different gun. The cheek smack is gone and the recoil seems to be all on my shoulder instead of my face and shoulder.
Of course it still kicks harder with heavier bullets but that's just the way it is.
If you want a light kick try some Trailboss... it's like shooting a 223 instead of an aught six. Trailboss is made for cast bullets but also works fine with jacketed bullets. Alot of folks are using TB for plinking and it's great for younger/smaller shooters to learn on without alot of recoil.
 
 
 
Spanky

[Ol BW]

I have a 30-06 Handi and it absolutely loves 150 gr. Core-Lokts.  I don't believe it kicks any harder than my bolt action, but then my Handi has a recoil pad and the bolt don't. 

I believe your plans with Managed Recoil are sound IF you can find some.  If not you can get a reloading friend to mimic them with Reloder 7 and 125 gr. Bullets.

FWIW, synthetic = light and light = more recoil.  IMHO stick with the wood, Monte Carlo stock, get as good a scope as you can afford, mount it as low to the barrel without interfering with the hammer AT ALL.  That should make you a good, accurate rifle with proper cheek weld to start making tiny groups!

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[quickdtoo]

Stock weights are in the FAQs, the syn stocks are the lightest, followed by the wood then lams, then the Choate Varmint, the lighter the firearm, the more recoil given equal loads.

Tim

http://www.handloads.com/calc/recoil.asp

http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,120792.msg1098406584.html#msg1098406584

[Spanky]

I have a 30-06 Handi and it absolutely loves 150 gr. Core-Lokts.

 
+1 to that. Mine loves the Core Lokt's too.
 
 
 
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[quickdtoo]

150gr Fusion are pretty hard to beat for accuracy, they didn't shoot quite as good in my SS 30-06 as they did in Mac's Ultracomp, but they were plenty good, under an inch at 100yds. I bought the Ultracomp from him and worked up 200gr NP load, it shoots them excellent.

Tim

[godogz]

I'll have to give those 150s a try. I have a Remington 742 that I shoot 180 core lokts with. If I can convert my oldest son to the new .06 w/ the 150s maybe he will pass the 270 on to his younger brother.