The Cold War & now.

[pastorp]

Good morning all,

I was just sitting here waiting for daylight and thinking about world conditions. I remember growing up during the Cold War. Bomb shelters, Cuban missile crisis & all that stuff. My earlier memories started about 1950. To me it seemed like life was simple and worry free. Except for the ever present cloud of worry about what those Russians were up to.

What ever happened that was bad we were sure it was a Russian plot. They were constantly out to get us.  you could never let your guard down. Really not that much different than today only it's not the Russians , but now the muslims. My kids in Atlanta have a Muslim family for neighbors. My grandson plays basketball & football with the boys. But every few hours their father calls them to prayer. We are never quite at rest. Worrying about what those Muslims are plotting. Seems nothing has changed but the players. 

Regards,

[yellowtail3]

Good morning all,

I was just sitting here waiting for daylight and thinking about world conditions. I remember growing up during the Cold War. Bomb shelters, Cuban missile crisis & all that stuff. My earlier memories started about 1950. To me it seemed like life was simple and worry free. Except for the ever present cloud of worry about what those Russians were up to.

A nuclear-armed Russia, that we'd been facing across the Iron Curtain. One with a very capable army & air force, that had defeated Nazi Germany. there were reasons to worry.

What ever happened that was bad we were sure it was a Russian plot. They were constantly out to get us.  you could never let your guard down. Really not that much different than today only it's not the Russians , but now the muslims.

Except the " Muslims" aren't a unified political entity, they don't have the world's largest and most capable army, and they don't have a huge and capable air force, and the world's largest submarine fleet...

My kids in Atlanta have a Muslim family for neighbors. My grandson plays basketball & football with the boys. But every few hours their father calls them to prayer. We are never quite at rest. Worrying about what those Muslims are plotting. Seems nothing has changed but the players. 

Except nowadays, worry about the 'plotters' is more paranoia and hysteria than anything warranted by facts - far more than worries about the Cold War ever were. Tell the kids to have fun with their friends.

[P.A. Myers]

pastorp, you and I are about the same age it sounds. My dad was a ww2 participant and stayed in for the cold war. I grew up in the Strategic Air Command. I remember the dark days of the late 50s and early 60s. Dad would disappear for weeks and couldn't talk about it. The gun was pointblank at the Soviets head and the hammer was back. The muzzies don't operate from a centralized nation state, but are sprinkled around using whole populations as human shields. The Soviets marched in orderly ranks, the muzzies infiltrate. When your wife is arrested for having bared arms its too late.

[bkraft]

As a History major and survivor of those "days of yore." The main difference I can see was that the Russian Bear was as afraid of incineration as was the American Eagle. So, MAD was a viable ploy, the radical Muslim on the other hand has no fear of death and actually embraces it. When someone lives in the stone age you really can't bomb them any where. They do not  have nor want western values, every non believer is a target, man, woman or child whoes death is rewarded. Kill an enemy and its dinner in paradise with the "big guy" an forty virgins. I know I'm gonna get flamed for this but ya gotta admit that the WOGs are a very cunning adversary. Look at history, how many empires have they toppled?

[yellowtail3]

I know I'm gonna get flamed for this but ya gotta admit that the WOGs are a very cunning adversary. Look at history, how many empires have they toppled?

No flame, but... I was a history major, too (undergrad) and I don't know what a WOG is... illuminate?

[bkraft]

During the days of the British Empire it was considered "bad form"(non PC) to refer to the "natives"  as wuzzies an such so the  code of the time was to refer to them as WOGs "Wright Oriental Gentlemen." This was in the officers mess mind you, Tommy Atkins however called them "bleedin eatheans they are."( My apologies to Mr. Kipling)

[P.A. Myers]

" The wogs begin at Calais". 1899

[RevJim]

 All I know is that I feel safer now than I did on the border of Czechoslovakia the week Nixon had Haiphong harbor mined in NVN in '72 (or was it early '73? I've slept since then, lol ) We were put on all out alert, we massed on the border, the Commie tanks were massed on the border ( rumored to have 1000 to our one) lots of nighttime activity right across the border at night (making scary sounds to a 19yr old!) We just secretly hoped that if the tactical nukes were used on us, it would hit in our back pocket instead of killing us with Fall Out! Mix in a bunch of nerve gas and bio weapons, with the poor (non existent in my battalion!) protective suits of that era....I'm glad that particular threat/place is out of my life! ha.

[pastorp]

I agree the potential for harm was greater during the cold was. But have we forgotten 9-11. It seems the Muslims have done more damage on our soil than the communists were able to do.   


Regards,

[pastorp]

TM7,

You better watch out or those men in the white suits are going to find you and take to back to the asylum. 

Your as loonie as a bed bug.

[Hairy Chest]

We have to remember that during Stalin's White Russian holocaust it was Hoover and America that sent relief andaid to the Soviets.  During WW2 when it was decided that Hitler and rising Germany had to go it was the USA that sent lend-Lease aid to the Soviets,,,steel, fuel..mass quantities, Then it was Yalta conference and the give away of Eastern Europe to the Soviets.....There's alot written on the pretext of the Cold War calling it the Phoney War by agreement.  Here's one such account by the historian Eustace Mullins:
The $5 Trillion Cold War Hoax.....  http://www.whale.to/b/mullins6.html
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This is like today's GWOT....What General Butler called Rackets by War...
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..TM7

Thank you, TM7.  You say what needs to be said and do it very well.