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http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/02/21/dont-mess-with-texas-home-intruder-shot-criminals-family-thinks-he-should-have-been-warned/
 
Don’t mess with Texas: Home intruder shot & killed; criminal’s family thinks he should have been warned Thursday, Feb 21, 2013 at 3:18 PM EST Your browser does not support iframes. Under the Castle Doctrine, a TX homeowner legally shot & killed a home invader. Despite his 18-page wrap sheet, the criminal’s family thinks he should have been warned.
“He could have gave him a warning,” One family member told reporters on the scene. ”He could have let him know that he did have a gun on his property and that he was willing to use it in self-defense.”

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What was he supposed to say? “I’d appreciate it if you would not break into my home. Some harm may come to one or both of us if you continue this practice,” Pat joked.
Glenn pointed out that the entire controversy around the Castle Doctrine goes against Natural Law. He explained that if someone wandered into a bear’s den and was killed, no one is going to be outraged at the bear.
 
“You walk into a cave of bears, the bear is going to kill you. It’s your fault,” Glenn said.
He added that no one is going to put the bear up for trial, question if it wasn’t loved enough as a child, or why it hates people so much.
“You walked into his den. You were stupid.”
Why does the same common sense not apply to someone’s home?
“You shouldn’t have been there.  You have no right to be there. I have a right to shoot you,” Glenn said.
That’s what the Castle Doctrine is — a law that protects your natural rights of self-defense.
Does everyone deserve second chances like those being called for in this news report? Maybe, but Glenn points out, this guy had an 18 page rap sheet.
That’s 18 pages of chances.
 
“It’s insanity,” Stu added. ”This is what happened when you lose respect for the law. This is why we talk about the border and things like this. If you want people to come across the border — you want more open borders — change the law to reflect that.  Don’t just ignore the law, because when you lose the rule of law you get attitudes like this. Attitudes of ‘I can’t believe this person was shot as they were breaking into someone’s house’.”
Glenn went on to explain why it’s import to remember that the Constitution was based on Nature’s Law and Nature’s God. It’s important to keep the foundation this debate on our Natural Rights.
 
“Do you have a right to protect your own cave? Nature says, yes.  Let’s not go against nature, because that means you’re born with that right.  There’s no bear government giving the bear a right to protect its cave.  There’s not a single law on the books.  And only the stupid animals stumble into the bear cave, and those animals are eaten.  And if there is a group of animals that are like you know what, I think we can take the bears one at a time.  You take this cave you take that cave at 3:00 in the morning.  And we’ll take their honey.  That species is wiped out because they’re eaten by the bear.”
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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I wonder if he used a shotgun like Joe Biden recommended?

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I like the bear den analogy...Makes it easy for a liberal to relate.  Should a bear have to amble outside of his cave and growl loudly two times to let any intruder know that he means business? 

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the relatives are upset for the cameras
because he wasn't going to be able to
bring home any more profits from stolen
loot. i see a civil suit in the making with
a fat settlement to dry those tears.
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maybe the home owner  just had a H&R
to  poor to afford a pump
where he could just rack the slide and send them  running....to rob another day
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
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“He could have gave him a warning,” One family member told reporters on the scene. ”He could have let him know that he did have a gun on his property and that he was willing to use it in self-defense.”
 
 
And he could have called ahead to let the owner know he was breaking in.......................................................... ???
Just another worthless opinion!!

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“He could have gave him a warning,” One family member told reporters on the scene. ”He could have let him know that he did have a gun on his property and that he was willing to use it in self-defense.”
 
 
And he could have called ahead to let the owner know he was breaking in.......................................................... ???


yes  had he called ahead


the whole incident could have been avoided with a phone call
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
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The whole thing could have been avoided if the punk had not decided to try and take what was not his. Good riddance to bad rubbish. I love stories with happy endings. POWDERMAN.  ;) ;)
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Quote from: -Shaggy
I wonder if he used a shotgun like Joe Biden recommended?

 
woulda been such a shame if the little bastid had met his end 16-pages sooner than he did!

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yes  but the main thing is....he is now dead....a fine example for  all that new him
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
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The lawyer will say" was it worth the " child's " life. And he should respond " he sure as hell thought it was"
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the family is correct the kid should have been warned . EVERY PARENT SHOULD WARN/TEACH THEIR KIDS IF YOU LEAD A LIFE OF CRIME YOU MIGHT/WILL GET SHOT.
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The gun's cocking sound was his warning.
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it is the fault of the parrents that didn't warn their son
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
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OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
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i don't know if everyone here realizes
that this man that was killed was
not a kid. he was 33 and had already
served prison time for drugs, criminal
trespassing, and theft. he knew well
the possible outcome of breaking in
 someone's house. the man who's
home he was invading was elderly,
and may not have been able to defend
himself any other way.


but - it still comes down to the fact
that if he'd stayed away from the house
that he knew full well he had no legitimate
reason to be at, he might still be alive.


the family is moaning and groaning
because they smell settlement money.
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WARNING!
He did give a "WARNING"
He warned every other perp out there that if you mess with him you will be dead!
Remember, they didn't hang horse theives for stealing horses,,,they hung them so they wouldn't steal anymore!

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Don't know about Texas law, but the Ga. law insulates you from civil liability if it was a justified shooting.
 
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why are they complaining-he was just following Bidens advice-but I guess he didn't shoot high enough in the air.

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was it worth a life? the perp thought so. He broke into the home of an elderly person, a sign he was a coward and intended to assault the weak. He got what he paid for, 17 pages late. If I was the person who did the shooting I would sue the perps family for mental distress etc. The family benefited by his crime, now they should pay for it.
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was it worth a life? the perp thought so. He broke into the home of an elderly person, a sign he was a coward and intended to assault the weak. He got what he paid for, 17 pages late. If I was the person who did the shooting I would sue the perps family for mental distress etc. The family benefited by his crime, now they should pay for it.

 
Plus expense of ammo, cleanup, etc. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Simply amazing that we today live in a such ignort society that the homeowner may actually get grief over this. Grief enough has already happened when the perp entered his home. This young country is dwindling quickly.
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The locked door was warning enough. The fact that the idiot had to BREAK in should have sent a clear message that he wasnt welcome to help himself to whatever he wanted in this persons home.
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a decade (or maybe two) ago, a man
was sued by the widow of a man
breaking and entering the defendants
home. the plaintiff was suing for loss
of income. even though the income was
by illegal means, the widow was awarded
in the suit.


i would imagine these folks here will try
for wrongful death or something
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Warning!  Warning!
 
Something and someone is really stoopid over this!  Like maybe the perp that died!?
 
 
 
Why didn't the "perp" warn the homeowner? that he was going to "harm" the homeowner
 
if the said-homeowner did not DEFEND HIMSELF!
 
 
 
What, praytell, is bass-ackwards in this situation!!??  DUH!  ::)
 
 
The homeowner is given HELL even though he minded his own business!  And the poor-perp came to him.  geeeesuzz!

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Simply amazing that we today live in a such ignort society that the homeowner may actually get grief over this. Grief enough has already happened when the perp entered his home. This young country is dwindling quickly.
   Yes it seems that its all upside down and backwards like an old rerun of Twilight zone.  A politically correct land being run by incorrect fools. 
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I don't know how many shots were fired, but even if only one shot was all it took, it must be considered a warning shot.  If that warning shot happened to strike the perp by some odd chance, then so much the better.  Either way, though, there definitely was a warning shot.
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I'm not 100% certain but I believe Texas was either the first or close behind in instituting the "Castle Doctrine:.
Our in Oklahoma was right behind them and is quite similar in text.
Clearly states that if someone breaks into your home it is understood they are there to cause death or great bodily harm and the homeowner is justified in using dealy force and cannot be held liable for any outcomes from using said deadly force.
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True but, they can still sue you which requires attorney, fees and expenses even if its thrown out.   Correct me if I'm wrong. 
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Not in my state. Once the D.A. clears the case it's over. Judges won't allow any case along these lines to be forwarded.
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Well I hope thats the case here. Seems people can sue you if they dont like your hair style and you have to get a lawyer and defend yourself or get a judgement that requires a hair cut!  just sayn
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