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Offline kennyd

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3d printing a gun
« on: February 25, 2013, 02:34:21 PM »
I have about had it with NPR.  The story today was about 3d printing guns.  They even had an ameteur gunsmith telling about he could print a receiver for an AR, and "it is considered a gun" by the ATF.  I don't know if I am more disgusted with him or the show.  Also the BS about making plastic guns that can get through X ray at airports. 


No mention that any machine shop can make a real gun.


I really would like to have a Lancaster rifle, complete with deep 7 groove rifling, roller frizzen, one of the sliding patchboxes, and in LH; preferably with fine wire inlay.  Can some of you help me with the programming?


And now; that drunk at the end of the bar will be printing guns and ammo all evening!  Not to mention all the 3D printers kept under the mattresses in prisons.
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Re: 3d printing a gun
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2013, 02:51:12 PM »
I need to print up a bunch of 3D ammo.
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Re: 3d printing a gun
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2013, 03:14:58 PM »
Thats what i'm talking about !  ;)
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Re: 3d printing a gun
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2013, 05:23:53 PM »
The 3 D printing of a pistol was a good plot twist to a CSI NY episode not too long ago.
and no matter what you do with plastics and ceramics you can not get it to make a gun that will go through a metal detector.
The Glocks that the one Joker brought on the senate or house floor through the metal detectors went through in peices.
The frame went but the barrel, slide, springs, mags and ammo had to be brought in, in an aids breifcase that is treated like a diplomatic pouch by the capital police. 
even if you could make a whole gun out of plastic, steel liners would be needed to make a chamber, and a barrel not to mention a firing pin.  and cintered metal can not be used as it will not hold up the pressure and to heat it enough to make is solid metal you would put a gun in the kiln and it would come out as a blob of steel. 

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Re: 3d printing a gun
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2013, 03:37:06 AM »
I have a 3D printer sitting about 15 feet away from me. Would I trust a gun made on it. Well I'd have to be more than 15 feet away when I pulled the trigger.
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Re: 3d printing a gun
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2013, 07:18:30 AM »
The 3 D printing of a pistol was a good plot twist to a CSI NY episode not too long ago.
and no matter what you do with plastics and ceramics you can not get it to make a gun that will go through a metal detector.
The Glocks that the one Joker brought on the senate or house floor through the metal detectors went through in peices.
The frame went but the barrel, slide, springs, mags and ammo had to be brought in, in an aids breifcase that is treated like a diplomatic pouch by the capital police. 
even if you could make a whole gun out of plastic, steel liners would be needed to make a chamber, and a barrel not to mention a firing pin.  and cintered metal can not be used as it will not hold up the pressure and to heat it enough to make is solid metal you would put a gun in the kiln and it would come out as a blob of steel.






What about a pistol made entirely of plastic, that uses air for a propellant, and say...ceramic bullets? An air soft on steriods ;)
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Re: 3d printing a gun
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2013, 02:55:28 PM »
The 3 D printing of a pistol was a good plot twist to a CSI NY episode not too long ago.
and no matter what you do with plastics and ceramics you can not get it to make a gun that will go through a metal detector.
The Glocks that the one Joker brought on the senate or house floor through the metal detectors went through in peices.
The frame went but the barrel, slide, springs, mags and ammo had to be brought in, in an aids breifcase that is treated like a diplomatic pouch by the capital police. 
even if you could make a whole gun out of plastic, steel liners would be needed to make a chamber, and a barrel not to mention a firing pin.  and cintered metal can not be used as it will not hold up the pressure and to heat it enough to make is solid metal you would put a gun in the kiln and it would come out as a blob of steel.






What about a pistol made entirely of plastic, that uses air for a propellant, and say...ceramic bullets? An air soft on steriods ;)
But that falls under an air rifle/ handgun and according to the feds it is not a firearm.
Look at the air gun that shoot 357 pistol bullets.
I have a full auto BB gun that is legal, with out a class 3 license.  I have wanted one that looks like an AR and uses the butt stock as an air reserve and shoots #4 buck (but that is a post of another kind.
I am still not sure that the plastic or even a Fiber glass air tank will have the PSI needed to send even a 22 fast enough.  Even the CO2 small poppers are drawn aluminium.  And what are you going to use to peirce the metal? 
Then you have the whole problem of a rifled barrel with plastic or even carbon fiber and you will not have the accuracy unless you use a wax coated bullet with a plastic rifled barrel.  (the ring of what ever material you use ,the ceramic or other projectile to be softer than the rifled barrel.) 

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Re: 3d printing a gun
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2013, 03:02:55 PM »
CSI?  That explains it.  TV shows is where almost all the facts in the world come from.  Will plastic bullets still make sparks?
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Re: 3d printing a gun
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2013, 04:44:45 PM »
CSI?  That explains it.  TV shows is where almost all the facts in the world come from.  Will plastic bullets still make sparks?
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Re: 3d printing a gun
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2013, 12:35:05 AM »
I recently saw a story on the tv where they printed an AR receiver in plastic. It was assembled using regular parts and fired.  When it fired it fell apart. Whats the point?

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