Author Topic: 17 hmr vs. 17 rem (Read 1304 times)

af4kb · « **on:** February 18, 2004, 03:50:39 AM »

Are there any 17 rem shooters here ? also would having the 17 hmr be the same as having the 17 rem. this must not be a very popular cartridge don't see much about it. Thanks

Bud · « **Reply #1 on:** February 18, 2004, 04:28:39 AM »

17HMR is a rim fire. The 17 REM. is a center fire that can be reloaded.
Depending what you shoot the 17REM. in you could get 4000 ft. per second. The 17HMR. will get around 2400fps.
Kinda like daylight and dark.

af4kb · « **Reply #2 on:** February 18, 2004, 04:35:09 AM »

yea I know the difference in the rim and centerfire. I guess I did not explain enough. I have always been intriged with the 17 rem stats but never bit the bullet and made a purchase. I will probably order the hmr in a couple of days ( pending recieving funds from a sale) but noticed a 17 rem on Eds sight.Paper is all I shoot max range is 100 yds.Will the hmr do the same as the 17rem as far as accuracy or would it have an edge over the rimfire.Thanks Pop

Hopalong7 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 18, 2004, 11:18:05 AM »

The 17HMR is a small package of pure sweetness in a 14" Contender. Mine is as accurate as any barrel I have at 100yd. If you can't tell already, I love it. Never had a 17Rem, but a friend does and while it certainly has capabilities that the little rimfire doesn't, I wouldn't trade with him. GOOD SHOOTIN', Walt

John Traveler · « **Reply #4 on:** February 18, 2004, 12:42:31 PM »

The .17 Remington is a .223 case necked down to hold a .177" 25 grain bullet.

Remington chambered the only rifles, and they stopped production a few years after introduction in 1970. Complaints about bore fouling and loss of accuracy were common. Plus, the caliber was limited to small/medium varmits and highly affected by wind drift.

At that time only Remington and Hornady made .177" bullets, and Remington stopped selling them as reloading component a couple years after introducing the caliber. Remington has had bad luck with it's proprietary calibers: .17 and 5 mm.

John

af4kb · « **Reply #5 on:** February 18, 2004, 03:17:07 PM »

well I guess that settles I will go ahead with the 17 hmr purchase.I guess I tried to shy because ammo could not be reloaded , but you know that might be welcome sometime. Seems when I get ready to go to the range I grab a couple of barrels and that will be the calibers I haven't reloaded and have to take other ones. Thanks for reply

af4kb · « **Reply #6 on:** February 19, 2004, 02:06:43 AM »

spreking of the 5 I got a friend thats stuck with a nice rifle in that caliber.I think there is a conversion kit on the market now that will convert to centerfire but he hasn't found it yet Cya Pop

rickyp · « **Reply #7 on:** February 19, 2004, 06:54:42 AM »

I just got a 14 inch 17 rem and dies have yet to do any real shooting with it. to me it is just as easy to reload as any other round that i have.

the reason I went with the 17 rem over the 17 hornady is that the 17 hornady is very new not a lot of companys make it yet and the ammo is still hard to find and is $$$$$$$ now it is getting better in some places and the round is starting to get a little foot hold I just dont want to have a barrel that i may not be able to shoot because they stop making ammo for it a short time after it came out.

the 17 rem cases can be made out of 222 mag or 223 cases and there are quite a few custom bullet makers taht make 17 cal bullets so even if you can no longer get factory rounds or brass for it this is still not problums

Catfish · « **Reply #8 on:** February 21, 2004, 03:19:08 PM »

John,
You have obeviously never owned a .17 cal. rifle. To start with the bullet dia. is .172 and thee .17 cal. bullet do not drift any more than any other bullet of the same BC and velosity. You can get bullets from 19 grns. to 30 grns. that I know of. When to turn a bullet lose at over 4,000 fps. the wind just doesn`t have much time to blow it side ways. The .17 Rem. is an excellant choice for hide hunters on game up to and includeing coyotes, and out to over 400 yrds. You are right that the .17 Rem. was based on the old .17-223 wildcat, and they are about the samething, but neather round will fit in the others chamber and the case necks are to short on the .223 case to form .17 Rem. cases from them. I`m not trying to pick on you John, but I hear all this crap about the .17`s that just ain`t true and it gives them a bad rap. I`ve got a .17 AH that when loaded with 10.4 grns. of H-4227 will push a 19 grn. bullet to 3,600 fps. and shoot point blank ( + or - 2 1/2 in. ) to just over 290 yrds. It`s death on groundhogs. With my .17 Rem. I`m pushing a 25 grn. bullet to well over 4,000 fps. It`s like a death ray.