Media Gearing Up New Trayvon Martin Campaign

[lgm270]

Interesting assessment of how liberal media are planning to re-boot  the Trayvon Marton Incident  again. 


http://topconservativenews.com/2013/02/cnn-and-other-pushing-trayvon-martin-reboot/

[wganz]

The media doesn't show this picture for some reason. 

[Deadeye63]

Photo of Zimmerman should only serve as a reminder to all that sometimes it is best to keep your nose out of the business of others. Travon Martin was not armed, he was not acting criminal or agressive until he was provoked by Zimmerman. I cant say I would have reacted any differently.

[lgm270]

Photo of Zimmerman should only serve as a reminder to all that sometimes it is best to keep your nose out of the business of others. Travon Martin was not armed, he was not acting criminal or agressive until he was provoked by Zimmerman. I cant say I would have reacted any differently.

Exactly what was the provocation?

[guzzijohn]

Quote from igm270:
"Exactly what was the provocation?"


POSSIBLY:
Zimmerman was stalking Martin.
Zimmerman made some type of verbal threats and/or racial slurs toward Martin.
Zimmerman attacked Martin.


GuzziJohn

[Deadeye63]

Photo of Zimmerman should only serve as a reminder to all that sometimes it is best to keep your nose out of the business of others. Travon Martin was not armed, he was not acting criminal or agressive until he was provoked by Zimmerman. I cant say I would have reacted any differently.

Exactly what was the provocation?

Hmmm, how about any number of reasons Travon Martin would reasonably think he needed to defend himself? Ever been a teenager in fear of another unknown older man who is obviously stalking you? It can be extremely strong motivation to instinctively be in fear of and therefore fight for your life. Even if Zimmerman did`nt intend to harm him at all, Maybe Travon saw evidence that Zimmerman was armed? 

[lgm270]

Photo of Zimmerman should only serve as a reminder to all that sometimes it is best to keep your nose out of the business of others. Travon Martin was not armed, he was not acting criminal or agressive until he was provoked by Zimmerman. I cant say I would have reacted any differently.

Exactly what was the provocation?

Hmmm, how about any number of reasons Travon Martin would reasonably think he needed to defend himself from?

Hmmmm...how come you  can't identify any of them?

[lgm270]

Quote from igm270:
"Exactly what was the provocation?"


POSSIBLY:
Zimmerman was stalking Martin.
Zimmerman made some type of verbal threats and/or racial slurs toward Martin.
Zimmerman attacked Martin.


GuzziJohn

"Possibly"   This is speculation, not fact.   

Zimmerman had a right to "stalk" Martin  and maintain observation of him while reporting to law enforcement.

No evidence of any "threats" or "racial slurs."   

No evidence that Zimmerman attacked Martin. 

[Deadeye63]

lgm270 has all the facts to dispute everyones theories.

[yellowtail3]

lgm270 has all the facts to dispute everyones theories.

Mostly, he has a deep-seated hatred of black people

[Oldshooter]

Not sure but didn't Zimmerman call police and report suspicious activity. Wasn't he a neighborhood watch guy, on watch.
 
The innocent picture of martin ain't what he looked like the night he was shot.
 
I am not prejudiced here, just thinking that some wont give Zimmerman any benefit of doubt. From his photographs after the incident he looks as though someone beat the hell out of him. should he have followed martin, probably not. but he may have thought he should keep an eye on him. I dunno.  Was martin assaulting him...probably. Would I have shot someone assaulting me... probably. Should Zimmerman be tried here in this forum ... probably not  ( we really only know what we have been told by the media) does that make me comfortable.... Definitely not. 
 
It will be interesting to see how it plays out. for sure.  I find it thought provoking that the lines being drawn here mirror those in other discussions on different topics in this forum.

[Deadeye63]

I think if Zimmerman had followed the instruction of 911 dispatch and allowed Law Enforcement to arrive and perform a threat assessment (as what should have been done) then I doubt we would even be discussing it.   

[lgm270]

I think if Zimmerman had followed the instruction of 911 dispatch and allowed Law Enforcement to arrive and perform a threat assessment (as what should have been done) then I doubt we would even be discussing it.

If 600,000 good white people had not died in a pointless sacrifice to end slavery, this aspiring black burglar would not have been casing the neighborhood for an easy place to break into.   How far back to you go?


Zimmerman had as much  right to free movement in his community as Martin.  Zimmerman was not bound to follow orders of the 911 dispatcher.   Equal rights for all races is kind of an unpopular idea in this era of affirmative action and elevated legal status for certain ...ah....special types of people, but in this instance racial equality is being brought to the forefront. 

[guzzijohn]

Quote from lgm270:
"this aspiring black burglar would not have been casing the neighborhood for an easy place to break into."


Please enlighten us on how you are able to present the above as a fact. My guess is because Martin was black.
GuzziJohn

[boomerralph]

Zimmerman was on his way back to his truck when Martin jumped him from behind.
Martin only saw the gun when he had Zimmerman down on the ground.
Had Martin not tried to take the gun, he might not have been shot.
In the same situation, someone who tries to take my gun...I will make every effort to retain it, including using it if I must.

[SHOOTALL]

Photo of Zimmerman should only serve as a reminder to all that sometimes it is best to keep your nose out of the business of others. Travon Martin was not armed, he was not acting criminal or agressive until he was provoked by Zimmerman. I cant say I would have reacted any differently.

Exactly what was the provocation?

Hmmm, how about any number of reasons Travon Martin would reasonably think he needed to defend himself? Ever been a teenager in fear of another unknown older man who is obviously stalking you?yep and I ran It can be extremely strong motivation to instinctively be in fear of and therefore fight for your lifeso an unarmed teenager takes fight over flight when in fear of his life ? BS . Even if Zimmerman did`nt intend to harm him at all, Maybe Travon saw evidence that Zimmerman was armed? And didn't have enough sense to run ? Now my BS meter is pegged ......

[Deadeye63]

Yeah and if Travon had ran? I`m sure Zimmerman would have NOT pursued. Now my BS meter just twisted off it`s stand. I`m outta here! I wont abide the hypocrisy any longer.

[SHOOTALL]

fantastic !
Guess you missed the part where he was walking back to his car when attacked 

[wganz]

I think if Zimmerman had followed the instruction of 911 dispatch and allowed Law Enforcement to arrive and perform a threat assessment (as what should have been done) then I doubt we would even be discussing it.

If you get the unedited tapes, you will see that he did and was going back to his vehicle when Trayvon came up to him.

All the physical evidence supports Zimmerman's story. There is the distinct possibility that Trayvon made it back to his house, dropped off the badge that was videoed in the convenience store, and came back out of the house since that badge wasn't on him when his body was picked up. Hopefully they can get good enough tracking of his cell phone's location to prove that.

Trayvon wanted a fight. Trayvon started the fight. Zimmerman finished it.

[Oldshooter]

Very Interesting Wganz!

[Casull]

 

I think if Zimmerman had followed the instruction of 911 dispatch and allowed Law Enforcement to arrive and perform a threat assessment (as what should have been done) then I doubt we would even be discussing it.

         You can think all you want.  While we're at it, I think that if Trayvon had not attacked Zimmerman, he would not have been shot.     

[Casull]

Mostly, he has a deep-seated hatred of black people

 
 
 
Maybe, maybe not.  But, I would say he is alot closer to what actually happened than deadeye.

[wganz]

lgm270 has all the facts to dispute everyones theories.

Mostly, he has a deep-seated hatred of black people

Zimmerman's grandfather was black.