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Ohio Amish face unfamiliar life in prison.
« on: March 07, 2013, 06:17:37 AM »
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ohio-amish-face-unfamiliar-life-federal-prison-18672544
 
Ohio Amish Face Unfamiliar Life in Federal Prison      In this Oct. 19, 2011 photo, from left, Johnny Mullet, Lester Mullet, Daniel Mullet, Levi Miller and Eli Miller wait to make their pleas in Holmes County Municipal Court in Millersburg, Ohio. (Mike Schenk/AP Photo)        By THOMAS J. SHEERAN Associated Press  CLEVELAND March 7, 2013 (AP) 
 
Sixteen Amish men and women who have lived rural, self-sufficient lives surrounded by extended family and with little outside contact are facing regimented routines in a federal prison system where almost half of inmates are behind bars for drug offenses and modern conveniences such as television will be a constant temptation.
 
Prison rules will allow the 10 men convicted in beard- and hair-cutting attacks on fellow Amish in eastern Ohio to keep their religiously important beards, but they must wear standard prison uniforms instead of the dark outfits they favor. Jumper dresses will be an option for the six Amish women, who will be barred from wearing their typical long, dark dresses and bonnets.
 
It's unclear where the Amish will serve their sentences, but some of the nearest options include men's prisons in Elkton, a 90-minute drive southeast of Cleveland, and in Loretto, Pa., and women's prisons in Lexington, Ky., and Alderson, W.Va. Some of the initial prison assignments include locations in Texas and Louisiana, according to a letter circulating among defense attorneys, and other assignments could come any day.
Visits from family members might be difficult since they don't drive modern vehicles. During the trial, relatives hired van drivers to take them more than 100 miles to the trial in Cleveland, where they often filled most courtroom seats.
      Mike Schenk/AP Photo In this Oct. 19, 2011 photo, from left,... View Full Size    Mike Schenk/AP Photo In this Oct. 19, 2011 photo, from left, Johnny Mullet, Lester Mullet, Daniel Mullet, Levi Miller and Eli Miller wait to make their pleas in Holmes County Municipal Court in Millersburg, Ohio.   "Amish people grow up with very strong communal connections and large extended families and participating in community activities, so being suddenly severed from that and isolated would certainly be a major change," said Donald Kraybill, a longtime Amish researcher and professor at Elizabethtown College in the heart of Pennsylvania's Amish country.
 
The defendants, all members of the same Amish sect, were convicted in September of hate crimes in 2011 attacks meant to shame fellow Amish they believed were straying from the strict religious interpretations espoused by the sect's leader. Fifteen of them received sentences ranging from one to seven years; the ringleader, Samuel Mullet Sr., got 15 years.
They all rejected plea deals that offered leniency, with some young mothers turning down possible chances for probation.
Amish communities have a highly insular, modest lifestyle, are deeply religious and believe in following the Bible, which they believe instructs women to let their hair grow long and men to grow beards and stop shaving once they marry.
 
Prosecutors say the 16 defendants targeted hair because it carries spiritual significance, hence the hate crime prosecution. The defendants had argued that the Amish are bound by different rules guided by their religion and that the government had no place getting involved in what amounted to a family or church dispute.
 
Most of the men were locked up, often in less strict local jails, after their arrests and will have some idea of what to expect in prison. The women remained free during the trial, and several have asked to stay out of prison during their appeals. The judge rejected three such requests Wednesday.
The timing for moving those locked up to federal prisons and for those still at home to report to begin serving terms will be up to the prison system. When they report, they will be in the custody of the U.S. Bureau of Prisons.
 
 
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Re: Ohio Amish face unfamiliar life in prison.
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2013, 03:47:44 PM »
I guess if you ain't a muslim ,then you gotta obey the law of the land.

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Re: Ohio Amish face unfamiliar life in prison.
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2013, 04:56:54 PM »
I guess if you ain't a muslim ,then you gotta obey the law of the land.

 
M-GWILLY. Seems that way. I'm surprised at the severity of the sentences. Hate crime?? Man, they were really reaching. In all honesty I believe it was just a chance to throw a big light on this to make the Amish look bad. I feel sorry for both sides, the ones going to jail, and those who had their beards cut. Punks can beat and rob an old lady and be out of jail in a few months. The only hate crime here was by the state.  POWDERMAN.  :( :(
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Re: Ohio Amish face unfamiliar life in prison.
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2013, 06:43:21 PM »
I doubt they'll stay locked up for their entire sentences. On the other hand, they'll learn new things, like what is meant by, "Lights out."
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Re: Ohio Amish face unfamiliar life in prison.
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2013, 03:01:38 AM »
A new group in the prison subculture- Blacks, Gangbangers, Hispanic, Skinheads,...........Amish.  The warden is going to need to come up with some new forms of punishment. I don't think it will bother an Amishman if he loses his T.V. privileges or materials to make tattoos.

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Re: Ohio Amish face unfamiliar life in prison.
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2013, 06:22:47 AM »
I never read or heard about the others attacked pressing charges, only the state. I believe that this could, and should have been settled out of court. This was just an in your face thing by the state to ridicule the Amish faith. POWDERMAN.  :( :(
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Re: Ohio Amish face unfamiliar life in prison.
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2013, 02:26:36 PM »
The whole notion of a "hate crime" is ridiculous. It needs to go away. Any viloent crime is a "hate crime" even if it is commited against a segment of society that isnt favored.
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Re: Ohio Amish face unfamiliar life in prison.
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2013, 10:24:32 PM »
I think this is the STATE acting in the same manner as these men and women did, except the state put them in prison.
From all I have read---they were oppresive but the state is being super oppressive.
I wonder if this maybe the only cure they can find to keep these men from becoming gods.
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