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Offline Indygunworks

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Methods to cut my trails out
« on: March 11, 2013, 03:42:03 AM »
Here is a glance at the wood
 

 
I have a few options.  I can travel a good ways with it and use what someone is telling me is a HUGE bandsaw.
I can try and find a 3 inch long blade for my jig saw, but its a fairly cheap jig saw and may or may not be up to the task (i would probably buy 4 blades and use 2 per trail to keep them sharp.
I can use my sawsaw but my concern would be keeping the guard against the wood to make sure my cut is perpendicular.
 
share some wisdom here.

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Re: Methods to cut my trails out
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2013, 03:46:29 AM »
Also, they are currently 2.5 inch's wide, i can plane them down to 2 inch's if i need to or if you guys think it will look better.  I am sure metal strapping will be cheaper.  it would be roughly 32 pass's per board through the planer and will increase the chance that i get a little to carried away and cut them down to far. 
 
If i stay w/ 2.5 inch's wide, then the resale value MIGHT be higher because someone could use the cairrage on a much bigger gun and just change the wheels to something larger if they want to use a larger barrel.

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Re: Methods to cut my trails out
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2013, 04:36:47 AM »
In order to help others in the future with there builds, I asked you to post your progress in one post.  It does no one any good to have bits and pieces, fragmented all over the board. It's useless.

Here is the link to your build post. http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,276604.0.html

Hit modify in each of the two post you have made here.  When the modify window opens right click and select all. Then copy.

Open a reply in your build post and paste you responses in. 

when you have completed your build, then your build post can be linked into the Stickies for future reference.




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Re: Methods to cut my trails out
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2013, 05:00:05 AM »
In order to help others in the future with there builds, I asked you to post your progress in one post.  It does no one any good to have bits and pieces, fragmented all over the board. It's useless.

Here is the link to your build post. http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,276604.0.html

Hit modify in each of the two post you have made here.  When the modify window opens right click and select all. Then copy.

Open a reply in your build post and paste you responses in. 

when you have completed your build, then your build post can be linked into the Stickies for future reference.

Per your wish's i will start using that thread.  I have done ALOT of build threads on my other forum (ingunowners.com) but have never done a build thread like you desire.  Typically all the questions are asked as you go in their own respective thread.  then when its all said and done pictures and descriptions are consolidated into one thread....  that way when you find that thread you can read the first couple posts and see the entire project start to finish w/out having to go through 6 pages of discussion as it goes along.  that was my intention here.  I dont enjoy build threads where 75 percent of the thread is simple conversation back and forth and alot of "looks good keep em coming"
 
a few examples (if i am allowed to link to my own threads on a differant forum)
 
http://ingunowners.com/forums/handguns/202181-gunsmithing_milled_a_j_frame_front_sight_xs_sight_installation.html
 
http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_firearms_discussion/195093-gunsmithing_machining_a_dovetail.html
 
http://ingunowners.com/forums/long_guns/203875-gunsmithing_savage_upgrades_rebarrel.html
 
http://ingunowners.com/forums/long_guns/203937-gunsmithing_upgrading_a_mossberg.html
 
http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_firearms_discussion/201225-gunsmithing_installed_a_dro_on_my_mill.html
 
I guess i could keep going on and on, but long story short, if those threads would have been cluttered w/ alot of short posts then they would not be near as enjoyable to read.  that was my intention w/ this project as well.

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Re: Methods to cut my trails out
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2013, 05:36:19 AM »
This is one big project not a whole bunch of little different and unrelated projects like your examples.

Just like the hammer bob and front sight mod of the J-Frame Smith is one project, build a carriage for your cannon barrel is one project.

It's one project. 

Just keep adding the next step to your main post.

If you need some examples, start here:

HOW TO BUILD (links to):

CJ’s 1-1/2” bore 1/3 scale 6 pounder:
www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,18274.0.html
www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,13258.0.html
www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,13760.0.html

Ellswworth Cannon:
http://www.nwtskirmisher.com/useful-extra4.shtml

Golf Ball Coehorn:
www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,52532.0.html
www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,54573.0.html
www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,65636.0.html

Linstock:
www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,65288.0.html

Mop:
www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,36465.0.html


Quills: 
www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,59198.0.html
www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,95774.0.html

Powder Chamber Design:
www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,63899.0.html
www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,65321.0.html

Reaming a bore:
www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,38410.0.html

RIFLING MACHINE: 
www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,108012.0.html

Trunnion attachment:
www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,60155.0.html

TRUNION STRAPS: 
www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,95901.0.html
www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php?topic=122939.0.html

Bowling Ball mortar: 
www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,36962.0.html

Wheel Making:
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,252760.0.html



Other cannons projects:
Building the Paixhans Monster Mortar & Water Cooler Jug w/Concrete Projos
Fabrication du Mortier de Monstre de Paixhans avec des Photos
What Color Should the Big French Mortar Bed be?
10" Gribeauval mortar drawing
Yorktown Mortar Drawing
The Tannenberg Gun
Soda can Coehorn
GGaskill Golf Ball Mortar Contest Entry
CU_Cannon Golf Ball Mortar Contest Entry
Cat Whisperer Golf Ball Mortar Contest Entry
DD Golf Ball Mortar Contest Entry
How to make a nice set of mortar handles
putting the mortar base together
Repost of much earlier pix of bending trunion straps
Making small capsquares or trunnion straps
12 pdr coehorn project
Carriage paint formula 
cardboard tube powder storage containers
Rolling your own paper quills
more: quill
Paper straws for quills
My Somewhat improved Linstock
Yet another linstock
Today's Project--Linstock
Slowmatch
Making NC Lacquer
KNO3
Lead acetate for Slow Match
How to use a linstock and make slow match
Weld Seam Liners
A Breech loading Swivel Gun
SAMCC Cannon plans
Aiming a Cannon without sights, South African style
24pdr CS Mortar Drawings (Frame type bed)
Trunnion Pockets on a Drill Press
500gr powder measure
Powder funnel
Lots of Cannon plans from Dan
Gary casting a bronze cannon post contains links to several other related posts.
Gary's Sabot
Powderkeg's Treatise on Drilling 
Tutorial: A Simple Device for Making Scale Rope
Legality of building 12 guage signal cannon from ATF?
A Cleaning Method for all Cannon Bores including DOM Sleeved or Lined ones.
Building a carriage for the New SAMCC Brooks Barrel
 

 


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Re: Methods to cut my trails out
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2013, 12:10:09 PM »
In order to help others in the future with there builds, I asked you to post your progress in one post.  It does no one any good to have bits and pieces, fragmented all over the board. It's useless.

Here is the link to your build post. http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,276604.0.html

Hit modify in each of the two post you have made here.  When the modify window opens right click and select all. Then copy.

Open a reply in your build post and paste you responses in. 

when you have completed your build, then your build post can be linked into the Stickies for future reference.

 
Indygunworks>
I know you are fairly new here and it may seem to work different than other forums but there is a lot of merit by keeping the entire project in one post. This is a very large forum that takes many hours sometimes to find a particular post. By consolidating your project in one post it makes it much easier to search for other post and also makes it more enjoyable for us to read yours. For example a year or two from now someone wants to referance your build for ideas for their build, once they find the post its all in one place, not scattered about all over the forum. Also everytime you make a new entry it jumps to the top of the forum, so every one will see it as current as a new post, and each time a person views your post the number (of views) shows up, the higher the number the higher the interest in your topic. I have begin to lose interest in your project because it has fragmented into several post, not because I believe you have a cool cannon build, because it is cool :) .
 
 
Douglas,
Thanks for bringing this to his attention, what took you so long? ha ha.............. ;D
 
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Re: Methods to cut my trails out
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2013, 04:03:29 PM »
Indy don't be afraid of taking lots of photo's usually the more the better....
here is an example of one of my threads on building a cannon.....
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,240309.msg1099373449.html#msg1099373449
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,248479.msg1099443215.html#msg1099443215
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As far as cutting the trails for your cannon I think you will not be pleased with either the results of a zig saw or saws all.... it is too easy to have them angle the cut and with some hard woods I have seen these type of blades follow the grain.... a good band saw is the way to go even if you have to enlist the aid of a wood shop to do it the end result will be worth it... oak is not cheap.... If I were doing these up in N.Y. I would take them to a friends lumber yard he has a band saw with a 2" wide blade.... I might even scew the two boards together and cut both at the same time so they would both be the exactly same ,,,,
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Re: Methods to cut my trails out
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2013, 04:06:43 PM »
I apologize, i just did not realize exactly what was being requested.  i still planned on putting the whole build in the build thread, i did not realize i needed to ask my individual questions there as well.
 
Its been my experience that when you have a thread several pages long full of conversation that alot of people stop checking it for new posts and questions dont get answered.  This being the best example.  you posted in my new thread because you saw it and clicked on it, yet a question about using a sawzaw or a jig saw, and some concerns about thickness goes unanswered for 12 hours.  I was hoping to move forward this evening on the trails but wanted to clarify the answers to those questions first.  This thread got 148 views today but i am sure no one answered because of the conversation DD had with me in it, yet the other thread did not increase by a single view today and i am still w/out an answer.
 
either way i understand this is the way its done here and will do my best to follow yall's rules.

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Re: Methods to cut my trails out
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2013, 04:08:42 PM »
Indy don't be afraid of taking lots of photo's usually the more the better....
here is an example of one of my threads on building a cannon.....
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,240309.msg1099373449.html#msg1099373449
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,248479.msg1099443215.html#msg1099443215
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As far as cutting the trails for your cannon I think you will not be pleased with either the results of a zig saw or saws all.... it is too easy to have them angle the cut and with some hard woods I have seen these type of blades follow the grain.... a good band saw is the way to go even if you have to enlist the aid of a wood shop to do it the end result will be worth it... oak is not cheap.... If I were doing these up in N.Y. I would take them to a friends lumber yard he has a band saw with a 2" wide blade.... I might even scew the two boards together and cut both at the same time so they would both be the exactly same ,,,,

Would you mind cutting and pasting this as a reply in my build thread.  http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,276604.0.html
 
 
 
 
you kinda made me look the fool because you were answering my question as i was making a post about not getting the question answered.... either way thanks for the advice.