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Offline mo_bio

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going to range with big & little
« on: March 16, 2013, 12:19:02 PM »
finally going to the range with my 2 newest handis. I spent the day working up the loads. I just hope the weather holds. l didnt plan on having 2 this far apart in size but  like it very much.
Handis: .17 mach2 (x2), .22 lr, 22 hornet, .22 jet, .223, .243, .270, .280, .357 max (x2), 35 remington, 35 whelen, 45-70, 445sm, 30-30, 410, 500 S&W, 50 AK



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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2013, 03:01:58 PM »
22 Jet and 50 Alaskan? I would shoot the smaller one first if you want to measure groups. ;)

Thanks, Dinny
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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2013, 03:11:04 PM »
mo bio,
 
Could you use the 22 Jet cartridge as a bullet in the 50 AK? ::)    Pretty sweet, let us know how they shoot.  BTW, I am very glad you bought the 50AK because it was very hard for me to resist anything that will punch a 1/2" diameter hole. 8)
 
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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2013, 03:21:32 PM »
Getting ready for the t-rex and bunny hunt?

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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2013, 03:54:23 PM »
Personally I would shoot the 22 Jet and let someone else shoot the 50AK ;D
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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2013, 04:44:18 PM »
I loaded 5 loads for the ak. They range from 350 g mouse loads to 750 g loads. I have some 680 spire point I am excited about. looks like it is going to rain tomorrow  :'(  may have to wait. i have 4 more bullets from the bull shop.


Hey George any gun shops I need to see in san angelo ? heading to alpine next week.
Handis: .17 mach2 (x2), .22 lr, 22 hornet, .22 jet, .223, .243, .270, .280, .357 max (x2), 35 remington, 35 whelen, 45-70, 445sm, 30-30, 410, 500 S&W, 50 AK



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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2013, 04:51:56 PM »
heading to alpine next week.

I was at Alpine in Arlington a few weeks ago. They had several rifles that aren't found in other parts of the country. Sako A7 Tecomate and Tikka T3 Big Boar Hunter are a few that stuck in my mind.

You should definitely hit up the Cabelas in Dallas too.

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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2013, 05:07:32 PM »
dinny, my in-laws live in weatherford and my wife is from Arlington. we are going to alpine,tx but will spend one day at alpine in Arlington and cabelas too. i use to stop at CTD but won't be stopping again.
Handis: .17 mach2 (x2), .22 lr, 22 hornet, .22 jet, .223, .243, .270, .280, .357 max (x2), 35 remington, 35 whelen, 45-70, 445sm, 30-30, 410, 500 S&W, 50 AK



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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2013, 11:11:23 PM »
Personally I would shoot the 22 Jet and let someone else shoot the 50AK ;D
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Yeah George, that's one of those "Hey buddy, wanna try my new rifle?" :o :o :o    ;D ;D ;D

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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2013, 12:54:31 AM »
This is a great place to deal with old time service and nice inventory
http://www.fieldandstreams.com/contact.html

Texas Gun Shop
2430 Sherwood Way
(lots of reloading and shooting supplies)

http://www.shopoutdoorsman.com/
Really nice guys
Take a big hat to the Big Bend Lots of sun & heat already this year ;D
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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2013, 03:43:44 AM »
Thanks George. I will try and stop in. I always stop in at tx gun shop. Taking our girls to west tx for the first time.


I  hope to find a sucker ummm I mean shooter to try the 50.
Handis: .17 mach2 (x2), .22 lr, 22 hornet, .22 jet, .223, .243, .270, .280, .357 max (x2), 35 remington, 35 whelen, 45-70, 445sm, 30-30, 410, 500 S&W, 50 AK



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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2013, 07:11:18 AM »


I  hope to find a sucker ummm I mean shooter to try the 50.

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Bring your 50AK to the Ohio shoot in April.  Catfish, Jason & I will shoot anything, once! ;)
 
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Wife's Handis;  300 BLKOUT

MINE:  270W, 308x444, 44 Bodeen, 410 shorty rifled slug gun, 445 SuperMag Shikari, 45 ACP shorty,  45-70 Shikari, 45 Cal Smokeless MZ, 50cal 24" SS Sidekick, 50 cal 24" Huntsman, 50 cal 26" Huntsman, 50 cal 26" Sidekick, 50-70 Govt Shikari, Tracker II 20 ga shorty, 20 ga VR Pardner, 20ga USH, 12ga VR NWTF, 12ga Tracker II shorty WITHOUT scope, 12ga USH, 10 ga  Pardner Smoothbore slug gun & 24ga Profino Custom rifled slug gun.

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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2013, 07:50:56 AM »
Bring your 50AK to the Ohio shoot in April.  Catfish, Jason & I will shoot anything, once! ;)  BB

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BB... must cost a fortune to feed those pigs...?
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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2013, 10:06:27 AM »
Bring your 50AK to the Ohio shoot in April.  Catfish, Jason & I will shoot anything, once! ;)  BB

"MINE: 270W, 308x444, 44 Bodeen, 410 shorty rifled slug gun, 44Mag Shikari (H&R made this one, not Profino Gunworks), 45 ACP shorty,  45 cal shorty smokeless MZ, 454 Casull Carbine, 45-70, 45-70 Shikari, 45-120, 45 Cal Smokeless MZ, .500 S&W, 50-70 Govt Shikari, 50-70 Govt BC Carbine, Tracker II 20 ga shorty, 20 ga VR Pardner, 12ga Ultra Lite Slugger, 10 ga  Pardner Smoothbore slug gun, Profino 12ga SxS Shorty ZombieTamer."

BB... must cost a fortune to feed those pigs...?

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Not too bad since I started casting my own boolits.  Most of the bigbore straight wall cartridges I use GMDR pistol powder load data so the powder cost ain't so bad.  The two bottleneck guns are cheap because I don't shoot them very much as I mostly like to launch big chunks of lead. 8)  The big holes are nice because I never remember to bring my spotting scope. ;D

Most of my ammo budget is spent feeding my wife and son's black guns and pistols.   The itchy trigger finger gene is very dominant on their side of the family. ;)
 

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Why be difficult, when with a little extra effort you can be impossible?

Wife's Handis;  300 BLKOUT

MINE:  270W, 308x444, 44 Bodeen, 410 shorty rifled slug gun, 445 SuperMag Shikari, 45 ACP shorty,  45-70 Shikari, 45 Cal Smokeless MZ, 50cal 24" SS Sidekick, 50 cal 24" Huntsman, 50 cal 26" Huntsman, 50 cal 26" Sidekick, 50-70 Govt Shikari, Tracker II 20 ga shorty, 20 ga VR Pardner, 20ga USH, 12ga VR NWTF, 12ga Tracker II shorty WITHOUT scope, 12ga USH, 10 ga  Pardner Smoothbore slug gun & 24ga Profino Custom rifled slug gun.

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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2013, 10:41:53 AM »
Where is the great buckeye shoot going to happen? If I am at my brothers in Lexington it may be doable.  Raining like crazy so no range today. Worked on another load with 600 sp. Pic is with 44 for comparison.
Handis: .17 mach2 (x2), .22 lr, 22 hornet, .22 jet, .223, .243, .270, .280, .357 max (x2), 35 remington, 35 whelen, 45-70, 445sm, 30-30, 410, 500 S&W, 50 AK



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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2013, 11:11:24 AM »
Where is the great buckeye shoot going to happen? If I am at my brothers in Lexington it may be doable.  Raining like crazy so no range today. Worked on another load with 600 sp. Pic is with 44 for comparison.

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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2013, 01:55:32 PM »
Bring that big 50 with you if you can I will put some rounds through it to break it in.
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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2013, 12:57:09 AM »
Where is the great buckeye shoot going to happen? If I am at my brothers in Lexington it may be doable.  Raining like crazy so no range today. Worked on another load with 600 sp. Pic is with 44 for comparison.

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Why be difficult, when with a little extra effort you can be impossible?

Wife's Handis;  300 BLKOUT

MINE:  270W, 308x444, 44 Bodeen, 410 shorty rifled slug gun, 445 SuperMag Shikari, 45 ACP shorty,  45-70 Shikari, 45 Cal Smokeless MZ, 50cal 24" SS Sidekick, 50 cal 24" Huntsman, 50 cal 26" Huntsman, 50 cal 26" Sidekick, 50-70 Govt Shikari, Tracker II 20 ga shorty, 20 ga VR Pardner, 20ga USH, 12ga VR NWTF, 12ga Tracker II shorty WITHOUT scope, 12ga USH, 10 ga  Pardner Smoothbore slug gun & 24ga Profino Custom rifled slug gun.

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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2013, 05:57:54 AM »
I do like your caliber spread, Ive considered something similar, though lessor for myself (the 22LR/22Mag swap barrel carbine and the 45-70), but the allure of another siren song always seems to lead me astray...........
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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2013, 07:05:30 AM »
I like the spread too and thanks.  In December of 2011 I bought my first handi (in the modern era, had one as a kid too).  This pic is just ammo for my H&Rs (missing the 270).  You guys are a bad influence. ;)
 
I took the 50 AK out last night in the rain for 2 shots. I couldn't help it.  I had to know how the recoil was and how the loads would shoot.  I have it on a handi-grip synthetic thumbhole.  I shot it with the 600 g spire points.  I had it loaded with 34 g RL 7.  Was not bad at all.  It was equivalent to a medium load 45-70.  I like it.  I did have some unburnt powder in the barrel.  I think I will ad some crimp.  I am going to dig the bullet out of the stump after work today if I can find it.
Handis: .17 mach2 (x2), .22 lr, 22 hornet, .22 jet, .223, .243, .270, .280, .357 max (x2), 35 remington, 35 whelen, 45-70, 445sm, 30-30, 410, 500 S&W, 50 AK



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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2013, 04:44:32 PM »
finally going to the range with my 2 newest handis. I spent the day working up the loads. I just hope the weather holds. l didnt plan on having 2 this far apart in size but  like it very much.

You should make a wildcat by necking down the big case to hold the little bullet!   ;D   The .22-50 Alaskan Jet!

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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2013, 05:04:19 PM »
Never seen a .22 Jet. That is pretty cool. I guess that is a handload only round huh? Does it have any performance advantage over a .22 Hornet?
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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2013, 06:15:37 AM »
Never seen a .22 Jet. That is pretty cool. I guess that is a handload only round huh? Does it have any performance advantage over a .22 Hornet?

The 22 jet is a necked down 357 mag developed by remington and smith and wesson as a revolver round.  It is also called a 22 centerfire mag. It clocks around 2000 ft/sec out of the revolver.  It uses .222 or .223 diameter bullets but some shoot .224.  It is not as fast as the hornet.
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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2013, 06:56:02 AM »
"Halt while I adjust my accoutrements!"
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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2013, 03:47:56 PM »
Thanks George. Texas gun shop had some powder. I left some money in san angelo and was happy to do it.
Handis: .17 mach2 (x2), .22 lr, 22 hornet, .22 jet, .223, .243, .270, .280, .357 max (x2), 35 remington, 35 whelen, 45-70, 445sm, 30-30, 410, 500 S&W, 50 AK



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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2013, 11:31:03 PM »
Quote from: mo
Finally going to the range with my 2 newest handis. I spent the day working up the loads. I just hope the weather holds. l didnt plan on having 2 this far apart in size but  like it very much.
Too Kool!  Too much fun!
 
I need to get my butt in gear,
and work up some .218 loads as well as break in my .45-70 barrel!  :)

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Re: going to range with big & little
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2013, 01:34:56 AM »
I would pray for more rain.