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Colorado sheriff says new state gun laws won't be enforced  Published March 17, 2013
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  •    March 4, 2013: Weld County Sheriff John Cooke, center, backed by a group of fellow sheriffs, testifies against proposed gun control legislation in the Colorado Legislature, at the State Capitol, in Denver. (AP)
Weld County Sheriff John Cooke won’t enforce new state gun measures expected to be signed into law by Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper, arguing the proposed firearms restrictions give a "false sense of security."
Lawmakers in Colorado on Friday approved a landmark expansion of background checks on firearm purchases. Earlier in the week, Colorado lawmakers approved a 15-round limit on ammunition magazines.
 
Both measures are awaiting the expected approval of the governor.
Cooke told GreeleyTribune.com that Democrats in the state legislature are uninformed and scrambling in response to the Aurora movie theater shooting and other recent tragedies.
"They’re feel-good, knee-jerk reactions that are unenforceable," he told the news outlet.
The bill passed Friday expands cases when a $10 criminal background check would be required to legally transfer a gun. Republicans have opposed the bill, calling it an undue burden on law-abiding gun owners.
 
Cooke said the proposed firearms transfer requirement would not keep guns out of the hands of criminals, according to the GreeleyTribune.com report.
The sheriff told the news outlet that he and other county sheriffs "won’t bother enforcing" the laws because it won't be possible to keep track of how gun owners are complying with the new requirements.
Cooke is joined in his opposition to the proposals by El Paso County Sheriff Terry Maketa, who told an angry packed crowd at a meeting on Thursday in Colorado Springs he would stand firm against the bills.
 
"I can’t tell you when those were sold, bought and purchased. As far as I’m concerned, they were all pre-July 1 if the governor does sign this bill," he said.
Maketa said the proposed laws were hastily crafted and at least one would be unenforceable. A number of Colorado sheriffs are concerned the laws could lead to registration of gun owners, he said.
 
Maketa said his office keeps records of every concealed carry permit holder in the county as required by law, but he would never share it.
He said he would destroy the database if anyone tried to get their hands on it and would intervene if government agents started arresting county residents for exercising their constitutional rights.
 
The vice president praised passage of the bill on Friday.
"Congrats to Colorado House and Senate for passing universal background checks," read a tweet sent by the office of Vice President Joe Biden from his official (at)VP account.
It was followed by another tweet referring to the theater shooting that read, "The families of Aurora deserved a vote and got one. Now U.S. Congress must act too."
Congress is also considering a number of new firearm restrictions.
 
Colorado is the first state outside the East Coast to significantly ratchet back gun rights after the theater and school shootings. Colorado's gun debate was being watched closely because it's considered a swing state with both a gun-loving frontier past and an unfortunate history of mass shootings, including the 1999 Columbine High School attack.
Expanded checks have been a top priority for Hickenlooper, who called for the proposal during his State of the State address in January.
 
Both chambers previously approved the expanded checks in slightly different forms. However, both had to agree on an identical bill before passing it to the governor, so a second round of voting was required.
Democrats seemed relieved that Colorado's protracted gun-control debate was nearing an end.
 
The GOP unsuccessfully tried some last-minute legislative maneuvers on Friday to sink the background-check measure before it was passed 19-14 by the Senate.
Democrats grew frustrated at GOP attempts to imagine scenarios that would trigger background-checks. From 4-H members learning gun safety but needing to borrow a shotgun, to neighbors on weeklong elk-hunting trips, Republicans argued the bill would ensnare harmless gun users.
Democrats insisted that existing exemptions in the bill would cover most scenarios the GOP imagined. The bill's sponsor, Senate Democratic Leader Morgan Carroll, told Republicans that Democrats had enough votes to pass the measure but extended debate to make small changes requested by Republicans.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Re: COLO sheriff says new state gun laws will NOT be enforced.
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2013, 09:22:03 AM »
It surprised me when i heard about this, colorado has always seemed to me like a state full of sportsmen and hunters and the like. But the more i find out, i realize that it's just turning into a rural california

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Re: COLO sheriff says new state gun laws will NOT be enforced.
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2013, 10:04:12 AM »
While there is a lot of rural sportsmen, the cities out number the rural folks.
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Re: COLO sheriff says new state gun laws will NOT be enforced.
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2013, 10:58:16 AM »
The Sheriff's words sound good, but they really mean nothing but a false sense of security.  As long as these laws are on the books, they are the law... Like it or not.  Any gun owner who violates them with a sense of security based on the Sheriff's words may find himself in for a rude awakening.  Does that trooper or local cop who pulled you over for a tail light out share the Sheriff's outlook?
 
Its good to see people in responsible positions speak out against these new, un-needed, restrictive laws.... But the real fix is going to have to happen in the state legislator.
 
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Re: COLO sheriff says new state gun laws will NOT be enforced.
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2013, 06:33:14 PM »
I am not so sure Big Easy. Texas had an unimaginably horrible Travel Carry law that everybody includeing law enforcement ignored for YEARS,
Our Count Sheriff said he had better things to do.
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Re: COLO sheriff says new state gun laws will NOT be enforced.
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2013, 02:04:30 AM »
I am not so sure Big Easy. Texas had an unimaginably horrible Travel Carry law that everybody includeing law enforcement ignored for YEARS,
Our Count Sheriff said he had better things to do.
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Oklahoma had one of those also years ago. A friend of mine got stopped there by a state trooper
and she told him she had the revolver in the car .
He could have fined her but he let her go , but he did tell her she had to have a permit and a certain
time limit on how long she could be traveling there with the gun in her car.
That was way back in 1991 I'm sure that law is long gone now . There are a lot of silly laws still on
the books in this state also . One left over from the old west is that if your caught with a pair of
wire cutters in your pocket while out in the countryside you can be arrested .
Its a lay over from the cattle rustling days and territorial boundaries .Billy the kid stuff .
Another one is that if you are chewing tobacco and spit in the presence of a lady you can spend
24 hours behind bars .  ??? 

Don't ever underestimate the power of a local Sheriff in a lot of these western states . They march
to a totally different tune when it comes to their authority . Less than 60 years ago they were the
law and the only law in a lot of these county's and in a lot of places they still are .
The state police have blanket jurisdiction , but they are so limited in numbers they usually stay out
of the way of the local Sheriff and his Deputy's. Texas has DPS, and if you have ever had a brush
with one of them you find out real quick that they can do pretty much what they want .
Correct me if I'm wrong but they seem to be assigned to each individual county , where the NMSP
answer to one central authority in Santa Fe . DPS can be some very hard nose cops and by some
agreement between Austin & Santa Fe they can pursue criminals across the state lines .

I've seen where crooks think that by rushing across the state line into here in NM they will get
away from the DPS. Not so , I've seen them arresting someone right here in downtown Roswell.
They serve warrants, stop speeders , and respond to robberies or domestic violence . 
As long as they call in assistance by a state agency the Texas DPS can operate throughout this
state also . I wouldn't be surprised if its the same with OK , AK and LA .


Rule of thumb. Don't mess with Texas !



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Re: COLO sheriff says new state gun laws will NOT be enforced.
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2013, 05:39:43 AM »
The sportsman are here in Colorado but the Democratic led legislature ignored them.  Polls running in the Denver post show 90% of respondents feel the legislature is over stepping and ignoring the wishes of the voters and 70% will vote against the magazine limits if it makes it on the 2014 ballot.  These aren't small samples either with almost 30,000 responses on the first poll and 90,000 on the magazine poll.
 

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Re: COLO sheriff says new state gun laws will NOT be enforced.
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2013, 05:46:44 AM »
That doesn't surprise me. Who are colorado's house and senate trying to appeal to? It's sure not their civilians

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Re: COLO sheriff says new state gun laws will NOT be enforced.
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2013, 07:23:08 AM »
MARDROBE. I'm assuming from your post that you are living in Colo, nothing in your profile though. I thank you for local input. All we get are the news version not the real deal from folks who live there. Welcome to the board. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
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Re: COLO sheriff says new state gun laws will NOT be enforced.
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2013, 08:00:08 AM »
I am not so sure Big Easy. Texas had an unimaginably horrible Travel Carry law that everybody includeing law enforcement ignored for YEARS,
Our Count Sheriff said he had better things to do.
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Re: COLO sheriff says new state gun laws will NOT be enforced.
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2013, 08:46:44 AM »
The deal is choosing which "crimes" are given priority.  The sherrifs won't expend the time checking on when something was bought; but I have heard of a lot of LE running any SN if they see a gun.   Except that there is a target frame, and usually brass in the truck, and sometimes a visible long gun in the back seat, no one knows if I am carrying a gun.  I am always on my way to or from the range, and the law says, so far, that you can carry a loaded handgun in a vehicle, and open carry everywhere except Denver.  Open carry, will though, be considered threatening by a lot of local cops.
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Re: COLO sheriff says new state gun laws will NOT be enforced.
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2013, 12:56:24 PM »
These are "fly paper laws" which only serve to ensnare the unsuspecting and are easily avoided by anyone who actually wishes to do so. It was not just one sheriff but about a dozen who testified that these laws were unenforceable.  Magazines owned before the ban are grandfathered so how can law enforcement  know if something was acquired after the ban unless one is foolish enough to tell them? The ban will affect retail sales of magazines but will not stop anyone from owning them. Likewise for the background check of private gun sales. Some poor widow trying to sell her late husband's guns at a garage sale could get into deep trouble but so far as any gun I may own it's "what are you talking about, I've owned this gun for years".
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