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Home Corned Meat
« on: March 19, 2013, 05:38:06 AM »
OK, with St. Patrick's Day over and the smell of corned beef and cabbage dissipated from the surrounding countryside, I felt I had to post this.

We had corned venison roast this year instead of the old standard, and wow!  Only the darker color and texture told the tale, the flavor was wonderful, so I thought I would share. 

The recipe says beef, but of course substitute venison, elk, moose....whatever.  One gallon of brine is plenty for a couple good sized venison roasts, you may have to adjust for larger game.

  • Home-Cured Corned Beef
    1-1/2 cups kosher salt*
     ½ cup sugar
     4 teaspoons pink salt (sodium nitrite), also called Prague Powder #1
     4 tablespoons pickling spice
     1 5-pound beef brisket.
     
     
    In a large pot, combine 1 gallon of water with kosher salt, sugar, sodium nitrite and 4 tablespoons pickling spice. Bring to a simmer, stirring until salt and sugar are dissolved, continue to simmer 3 minutes. Remove from heat and let cool to room temperature, then refrigerate until chilled.
    Place brisket in a large container and cover to 1” over meat with the brine, weight with a plate to keep it submerged; cover. Refrigerate for 5 days.
    Remove brisket from brine and rinse thoroughly.  Cook by simmering until fork tender (about 30-40 minutes per pound).
    Pickling Spice – Buy fresh or make your own.
     2 tablespoons black peppercorns
     2 tablespoons mustard seeds
     2 tablespoons coriander seeds
     2 tablespoons hot red pepper flakes
     2 tablespoons allspice berries
     2 small cinnamon sticks, crushed or broken into pieces
     2 to 4 bay leaves, crumbled
     2 tablespoons whole cloves
     
     

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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2013, 05:46:35 AM »
Works well with antelope and elk as well.
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2013, 06:13:03 AM »
What cuts do you use?   ???   Or does it matter?  i.e. bone a leg roast and lay it opened up in the brine?
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2013, 07:36:26 AM »
Use the brisket, but I suppose about any hunk would work.
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2013, 08:01:10 AM »
I'm sorry, I should have said "what cuts of venison."   :-[
 
Bambi brisket is kinda shy on meat!   ;D
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2013, 09:17:14 AM »
Brisket, doesn't matter whether it's antelope, deer,elk or beef it's all brisket, but as duely noted some of the briskets are considerably smaller than others.
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2013, 02:05:58 AM »
you pushed me over the edge. I just took out a couple small ven roasts and went to the store and bought the pickling spice and koser salt.
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2013, 02:07:27 AM »
two questions for you. Have you tried brown suger vs white and have you tried cooking it in a crock pot?
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2013, 05:18:33 PM »
You can corn just about any cut.

Basically, all it is is salt cured (pickled) beef with some pickling spices (I use a commercial pickling blend, then add a few extra bay leaves and juniper berries).  In winter, since we keep our house on the cool side, I'll just leave the crock on the counter - away from the stove - while I pickle a five pound roast. 

Sauerbraten is a similar thing, using a vinegar pickle rather than a brine pickle.
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2013, 05:20:35 PM »
two questions for you. Have you tried brown suger vs white and have you tried cooking it in a crock pot?

I've used both.  There is so much else going on, flavorwise, that you don't really notice that much of a difference.  And a crock pot is fantastic for cooking corned meats.
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2013, 03:28:37 AM »
My two hunks of vension probably go 2lbs and 3lbs. Should i reduce the lenght of time i brine so they dont get to salty or still keep them in for 5 days?
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2013, 07:28:36 PM »
My two hunks of vension probably go 2lbs and 3lbs. Should i reduce the lenght of time i brine so they dont get to salty or still keep them in for 5 days?

I would go three days at least. If you think it might have absorbed too much salt, just soak it in fresh cold water for a day.  Or, when you cook it, soak it in fresh cold water before cooking.

Check these:

 http://digital.lib.msu.edu/projects/cookbooks/display.cfm?TitleNo=26&PageNum=177

http://digital.lib.msu.edu/projects/cookbooks/display.cfm?TitleNo=26&PageNum=176  (you will need to hit the "Next" button to get the full recipe)

http://digital.lib.msu.edu/projects/cookbooks/display.cfm?TitleNo=72&PageNum=120

http://digital.lib.msu.edu/projects/cookbooks/display.cfm?TitleNo=47&PageNum=102

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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2013, 03:30:54 AM »
thanks pal. Its been in brine for 3 days now and i have to go out of town this afternoon for two days so maybe ill take it out now and see how it turned out. I can allways do it longer next time if it didnt cure enough.
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2013, 05:31:50 AM »
Every time that I open this recipes thread I have the taste and smell of some kind of dumplins in my mind. What have yall done to me. My diet is shot to #e((. ear
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2013, 02:31:05 AM »
well i just stuck one in the crock pot on low. Marble rye bread and swiss cheese are ready to go.
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2013, 05:28:18 AM »
So we should know the results around 5 - 6 pm?   ???    :P
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2013, 11:50:54 AM »
Every time that I open this recipes thread I have the taste and smell of some kind of dumplins in my mind. What have yall done to me. My diet is shot to #e((. ear

Like maybe http://allrecipes.com/recipe/german-spaetzle-dumplings/  ?
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2013, 11:52:28 AM »
well i just stuck one in the crock pot on low. Marble rye bread and swiss cheese are ready to go.

Not nice to tease.
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2013, 12:35:05 PM »
Wel, 6:30...  :-\
 
Guess we gotta wait for Lloyd to wipe the mustard off his chin!   ::)
 
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2013, 09:43:07 PM »
Every time that I open this recipes thread I have the taste and smell of some kind of dumplins in my mind. What have yall done to me. My diet is shot to #e((. ear

Like maybe http://allrecipes.com/recipe/german-spaetzle-dumplings/  ?
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Soesn't fit the picture in my mind but I shure would try it, never been afraid of a new food. I cooked Brunswick Stew with CROW in it last week. Crow has NO fat and is tough as a squirrel. Taste like mild duck. IF I shoot another crow for the pot it will sure be hard times. ear
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2013, 03:50:45 AM »
Well we had rubens for supper last night and i have to say it turned out real well. Not as salty as the venison hams i made. Really couldnt tell it from corned beef you buy in the store.
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2013, 12:43:22 PM »
Every time that I open this recipes thread I have the taste and smell of some kind of dumplins in my mind. What have yall done to me. My diet is shot to #e((. ear

Like maybe http://allrecipes.com/recipe/german-spaetzle-dumplings/  ?
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Soesn't fit the picture in my mind but I shure would try it, never been afraid of a new food. I cooked Brunswick Stew with CROW in it last week. Crow has NO fat and is tough as a squirrel. Taste like mild duck. IF I shoot another crow for the pot it will sure be hard times. ear

I didn't really think that spaetzle where the type of dumplings you were thinking of, but I had to throw it in.

Thanks for the heads up on crow.  I've often wondered about it because of the saying(s) about eating crow when one has been shown to be in the wrong on something.  Although it sounds like it might salt down well for making jerky.
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2013, 04:37:14 PM »
subjoe, I thought you were spoofin me on the pasta. I was serious about the crow. They are safe if they stay out of the garden.  ;D  I still intend to cook an armadillo and a beaver, grilled, when possible. ear
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Re: Home Corned Meat
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2013, 05:08:27 PM »
Beaver is pretty greasy, doesn't taste to bad but it  definetly isn't dry.
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« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2013, 12:59:55 AM »
subjoe, I thought you were spoofin me on the pasta. I was serious about the crow. They are safe if they stay out of the garden.  ;D  I still intend to cook an armadillo and a beaver, grilled, when possible. ear

More a "kidding on the square" about the spaetzle, Ear.  It goes powerfully well with corned meat, and, for some reason is considered a dumpling.

I didn't think you were kidding about the crow.  And it did give some insight to the phrase about eating crow. 
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