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Chem weapon used in syria, both sides blame the other.
« on: March 19, 2013, 12:50:35 PM »
US faces new pressure to act amid charges of chemical attacks in Syria  Published March 19, 2013
FoxNews.com    The Assad regime and Syrian rebels traded accusations Tuesday of launching a chemical attack -- in an escalation that, if confirmed, would mark the first known use of chemical weapons in the civil war and could pressure the U.S. to consider military action after two years on the sidelines.
 
President Obama has long said the use of chemical weapons would be a "red line" for his administration. However, the warning has always been directed at the Assad regime -- it's unclear whether the administration would feel compelled to intervene if the opposition used chemical weapons. U.S. officials downplayed the allegations Tuesday and said they could find no evidence of chemical weapons, as they uniformly voiced skepticism at the Assad regime's claims.
 
"We are deeply skeptical of a regime that has lost all credibility," White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Tuesday.
The regime, whose allegation was backed by ally Russia, said 31 people were killed, including 21 civilians and 10 soldiers, in the attack. Information Minister Omran al-Zoubi called it the "first act" of the newly announced opposition interim government.
Rebels quickly denied the report and accused regime forces of firing the chemical weapon.

 
'If today's reports are substantiated, the President's red line has been crossed, and we would urge him to take immediate action to impose the consequences he has promised.'
- Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham
The head of Syria's main opposition group, the Syrian National Council, said the group was still investigating the alleged chemical attack near Aleppo.
"Everyone who used it, we are against him, whatever he is," Mouaz al-Khatib told reporters in English in Istanbul. "We are against killing civilians using chemical weapons, but let us wait some time to have accurate information."
 
The reports could not be independently verified because of tight media restrictions, particularly in government-controlled areas that are virtually shut to all foreign media and outside observers.
But if either version of events is true, it would mark a serious escalation in the two-year conflict. Obama administration officials were pressed repeatedly Tuesday on whether the use of chemical weapons by either side would compel any action by the U.S., which has kept its distance from the civil war.
 
Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., seized on the reports to challenge the administration on whether it would follow through on prior warnings.
"If today's reports are substantiated, the President's red line has been crossed, and we would urge him to take immediate action to impose the consequences he has promised," they said in a statement. "That should include the provision of arms to vetted Syrian opposition groups, targeted strikes against Assad's aircraft and SCUD missile batteries on the ground, and the establishment of safe zones inside Syria to protect civilians and opposition groups."
 
Their Democratic colleague, Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan, also spoke of "ratcheting up of military effort" in response to a potential chemical attack.
"That would include going after some of Syria's air defenses," Levin told Foreign Policy's The Cable, adding that establishing a no-fly zone "would put additional pressure on Assad and also create a zone where Syrian people who are looking for protection and safety could come without crossing the border and becoming refugees."
State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland reiterated that the use of chemical weapons would "constitute a red line for the United States," though she made that remark in reference to the Assad regime.
 
She and Carney, as well as the Pentagon, said they could not confirm the allegations.
"We've seen reports from the Assad regime alleging that the opposition has been responsible for use. Let me just say that we have no reason to believe these allegations represent anything more than the regime's continued attempts to discredit the legitimate opposition and distract from its own atrocities committed against the Syrian people," Nuland said.
"We don't have any evidence to substantiate the regime's charge that the opposition even has CW (chemical weapons) capability," she added.
Carney suggested that the Assad regime could be using the charges to cover up its own use of chemical weapons.
 
"It is important as fighting in Syria intensifies and the regime becomes more desperate, that the United States and the international community make absolutely clear to Assad that the use of chemical weapons would be totally unacceptable," Carney said. "The president was clear when he said that if Assad and those under his command make the mistake of using chemical weapons or fail to meet their obligations to secure them, then there will be consequences and they will be held accountable."
Amid questions about whether the "red line" had indeed been crossed, the top U.S. military commander in Europe said Tuesday that NATO is conducting contingency planning for possible military involvement in Syria and American forces would be prepared if called upon by the United Nations and member countries.
 
Adm. James Stavridis, commander of U.S. European Command, told a Senate panel that the United States is "looking at a variety of operations."
"We are prepared if called upon to be engaged," Stavridis told the Senate Armed Services Committee.
The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which relies on a network of activists on the ground, said a rocket attack on Khan al-Assal killed at least 26 people but its director, Rami Abdul-Rahman, said he had no information on chemical weapons being involved in the attack.
 
He said the rocket landed near a military installation in the village.
Syria's policy has been not to confirm or deny if it has chemical weapons. But in July, then-Foreign Ministry spokesman Jihad Makdissi told a news conference that Syria would only use chemical or biological weapons in case of foreign attack, not against its own people.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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Re: Chem weapon used in syria, both sides blame the other.
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2013, 02:56:18 PM »
Probably launched by the US to start a war and give the muslim brotherhood another one.

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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2013, 03:12:56 PM »
Probably launched by the US to start a war and give the muslim brotherhood another one.

 
YEP, hussein wants his muslim brotherhood to control all of the you know what nations. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2013, 03:20:11 AM »
More than likely some that saddam had shipped there. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2013, 03:26:50 AM »
husanes   stash  has finally turned up
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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2013, 09:04:28 AM »
Probably launched by the US to start a war and give the muslim brotherhood another one.
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 Errr yeah,,,,except false flagged by israel again....who has the most to gain, just prior to BHO visit.
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Although, this report is from the usual neocon outlets and mouthpieces such as McCain and Graham, war purveyors, and is still 'alleged'.
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The Jews again?  Really, TM7.     The Israelis have been staying on their side of the border, and have not put so much as an APC tire over the border.    The Muzzies are killing each other now, just as they have been for hundreds of years.    Nothing new there.

Also, your claims about privateers are absurd.  There have been no sanctioned privateers since the War of 1812; the hint is that requires an Act of Congress.

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Re: Chem weapon used in syria, both sides blame the other.
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2013, 09:43:50 AM »
My take on this as well, false flag action to involve the US more.
 
BTW Sec Kerry admitted that the rebels are being supported and have been for some time.
 
 
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Headlines read that the Supreme cleric in Iran "Threatened" Israel wit destruction of two cities if they were to attack Iran.
 
Seems to me the word "Warning" would be much more appropriate than "Threatening".That word is much more applicable to the constant warmonger talk coming out of Israel and repeated by US politicians.
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2013, 06:05:33 AM »
Heck we should embrace iran for their so friendly attitude toward everyone else in the region. If the Israelies say Iran is bad then it must be a lie right?
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2013, 06:59:36 AM »
husanes   stash  has finally turned up
I was going to say the same thing, gues we have seen the WMDs the Liberals all say did not exist in Iraq being used on Syria. 
Or worse that the intell was correct and the WMDs did get int othe hands of AQ and they are taking sides in the civil war in Syria. 
Do you wonder if Homeland security or the CIA have intercepted WMDs trying to get to the US and have stopped them but can not say anything as the President and his group were the ones that said we invaded for oil (that we are not taking) and the myth of the WMDs  was there to beat the Republicans over the head with and they can now not say there were Iraqi WMDs that made it into AQs hands or were shipped to Syria to be stock piled until the US left Iraq again with Sadam in power.

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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2013, 07:04:48 AM »
I don't recall Iran attacking anybody in hundreds of years, except for that nasty US sponsored border war with US ally Sad'dam.  I also don't recall them having a huge mil budget anywhere approaching that of the US in real dollars or % GDP , nor 50 to 90% taxpayer dollar like us, nor having a robust weapons sale and export business akin to the US or israel. The Iraqi army used chemical weapons on two rebellions with in the country.  Chemical Alli gased Kurds in the North on the boarder of Turkey, and then again with the Shites in the South East.  They also used them in the War with Iran in 1980 to 1990.  Guess you need to rewrite history again. 
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I do know that israel has been accusing Iran of having a nuclear weapons program for over 30 years ...OVER 30 YEARS!!...And to date, Iran has been a signee of the IAEA  agreement and 'inspected', whereas israel hasn't signed nor been inspected and has hundreds of WMD, nor has Iran been attributed credible evidence of a nuke weapons program by inspections beyond that which is allowed by IAEA (and they are allowed to design such weaponry on paper and by certain precusors). And given this one might think there is a high level of hypocrisy given our super ally and the zio-xeno-islamophobic crowd.
Isreal bombed the Iraqi nuke power plant in Osarik before it could come on line and be loaded with fuel fom the soviet union.  The design of the plant was more about makeing plutonium than making power. 
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But hey, facts and such have never stopped that crowd from starting wars before... ::)
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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2013, 07:32:55 AM »
I don't recall Iran attacking anybody in hundreds of years, except for that nasty US sponsored border war with US ally Sad'dam.  I also don't recall them having a huge mil budget anywhere approaching that of the US in real dollars or % GDP , nor 50 to 90% taxpayer dollar like us, nor having a robust weapons sale and export business akin to the US or israel.
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I do know that israel has been accusing Iran of having a nuclear weapons program for over 30 years ...OVER 30 YEARS!!...And to date, Iran has been a signee of the IAEA  agreement and 'inspected', whereas israel hasn't signed nor been inspected and has hundreds of WMD, nor has Iran been attributed credible evidence of a nuke weapons program by inspections beyond that which is allowed by IAEA (and they are allowed to design such weaponry on paper and by certain precusors). And given this one might think there is a high level of hypocrisy given our super ally and the zio-xeno-islamophobic crowd.
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But hey, facts and such have never stopped that crowd from starting wars before... ::)
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So the exporting of subversives into Iraq today is not considered attacking? Suppose your right and Iran is just a poser bad guy bent on destabilizing western economies and the destruction of Israel, is this ok with you?
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2013, 03:25:26 AM »
.................... If the Israelies say Iran is bad then it must be a lie right?

If it is good for Israel it is usually bad for everybody else and it usually means the USA is paying for it in one way or another.
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2013, 04:23:09 AM »
TM7 type "Iran exports terrorism" into your browser bar and hit enter. Links as far as the eye can see and Iraq is just one of the interesting places Iran sends killers.
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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2013, 05:09:40 AM »
.................... If the Israelies say Iran is bad then it must be a lie right?

If it is good for Israel it is usually bad for everybody else and it usually means the USA is paying for it in one way or another.

 
bbf. Wrong again. If it's good for Israel it's good for America,  we are enjoying Gods grace and blessings because we support his people. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2013, 05:56:01 AM »
.................... If the Israelies say Iran is bad then it must be a lie right?

If it is good for Israel it is usually bad for everybody.................

 
bbf. .................................. we are enjoying Gods grace and blessings because we support his people. POWDERMAN.  :o :o

Yes I can see the Grace you are enjoying, it is just dripping down all over the place.  BTW. "His" people do not start/facilitate wars or are deeply involved in every major intrigue on a large part of this planet.
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« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2013, 06:07:27 AM »
.................... If the Israelies say Iran is bad then it must be a lie right?

If it is good for Israel it is usually bad for everybody.................

 
bbf. .................................. we are enjoying Gods grace and blessings because we support his people. POWDERMAN.  :o :o

Yes I can see the Grace you are enjoying, it is just dripping down all over the place.  BTW. "His" people do not start/facilitate wars or are deeply involved in every major intrigue on a large part of this planet.

Really disgusting thing is this:  our own leaders. 

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Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., seized on the reports to challenge the administration on whether it would follow through on prior warnings.
"If today's reports are substantiated, the President's red line has been crossed, and we would urge him to take immediate action to impose the consequences he has promised," they said in a statement. "That should include the provision of arms to vetted Syrian opposition groups, targeted strikes against Assad's aircraft and SCUD missile batteries on the ground, and the establishment of safe zones inside Syria to protect civilians and opposition groups."

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« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2013, 01:01:08 PM »
Two questions..
(1) Does the media lie like hell?
(2) Do you think they are telling the truth about Syria?

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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2013, 06:57:14 AM »
i think  is a response to a you-tube video
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