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Offline coyotejoe

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Open letter to Governor Hickenlooper
« on: March 22, 2013, 01:44:13 AM »
 Open letter to Governor Hickenlooper
Dear sir,
As it is now known that you have signed into law three new pieces of legislation curtailing my civil rights I would like to know exactly how these laws are to be enforced so that I might avoid the pitfalls of unintentional violation in which many will be ensnared. I address my questions to you sir, since I am sure that you, as a public servant sworn to uphold both the US and Colorado constitutions would never endorse a law without fully understanding all of its ramifications.
I understand that if I were to purchase a firearm from my neighbor I will now be required to undergo a CBI background check. To accomplish this I understand that both I and my neighbor must drive 45 miles to find a gun store and hope that licensed dealer is willing to conduct the check for me and that he has time in his busy  schedule to do that. I also understand that this licensed dealer will be entitled to charge a fee for his time in conducting the check and maintaining the records there of. I believe that fee commonly varies among dealers between 15 to 40 dollars in addition to the 10 dollars payable to CBI, thus adding 25 to 50 dollars onto the agreed price of the gun. I also understand that CBI has a considerable backlog of checks pending and thus we might have to wait and return again to the dealer after several days to a week when the check has finally been completed by CBI.
My first question is, who is liable under this law? Is it the buyer or the seller or both? If it is somehow learned that a firearm was transferred without a background check who goes to jail?
Is every FFL dealer required to conduct checks for private transactions or can he refuse to check any buyers not purchasing from his own inventory?
Since this is an imposition on the dealer's time under what authority can you or the legislature require a dealer to conduct checks if he chooses not to do so.
Is there a limit on the fee a dealer can charge for conducting these checks?
It appears to me that these fees and  impositions on our time  represent a penalty imposed on those who obey the law and thus an incentive to ignore the law. How is a law enforcement officer to know if a private transaction was conducted before or after the law took effect or for that matter how is he to know any transaction ever occurred at all if neither party reports it?
Since it appears that compliance with this requirement is pretty much voluntary just how does this enhance public safety to impose restriction and financial penalties on the law abiding  when those who choose to ignore the law can do so with near impunity?
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Re: Open letter to Governor Hickenlooper
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2013, 04:34:24 AM »
Why did you not sign your letter?
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Re: Open letter to Governor Hickenlooper
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2013, 04:42:53 AM »
I did sign the letter with my full name, address and phone number. That came out on page two of my "Word document" which I didn't bother to copy to post here. This was also sent to two newspapers and posted as a response to a Washington Post article lauding the benefits of background checks. I doubt the governor or any of the Dempcraps who passed this bill can answer the questions asked.
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Re: Open letter to Governor Hickenlooper
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2013, 09:02:47 AM »
I did sign the letter with my full name, address and phone number. That came out on page two of my "Word document" which I didn't bother to copy to post here. This was also sent to two newspapers and posted as a response to a Washington Post article lauding the benefits of background checks. I doubt the governor or any of the Dempcraps who passe this bill can answer the questions asked.
Great letter coyotejoe!
It is amazing how " Chickenlooper" has no concept of what he is signing and the impact and inconveniece it has on law abiding citizens of this state!!
I thought I was going to loose my breakfast when I saw the photo of The "Looper" being hugged by Rhonda Fields after he signed those bills!!
I think as you there is no way some of these laws can ever be enforced!! And that is the reason that alot of the sheriffs of Colorado will not enforce these stupid laws!!
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Re: Open letter to Governor Hickenlooper
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2013, 02:17:42 PM »
I am adding two additional questions:
 
[font=]Is the state going to pay this “fee” back to citizens who are exercising constitution rights or does the Democratic party also intend to impose similar “fees” on Colorado residents intent on exercising their right to free speech, religion, voting, trial by jury etc.?[/font]
[font=]Lastly, do you expect me to be stupid enough to vote for you or any of the Democrat fools in the Colorado House or Senate who shoved this new law down our throats?[/font]
 
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Re: Open letter to Governor Hickenlooper
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2013, 02:27:34 PM »
have you ever, in your memory,
been refunded any money that
you gave to the government?




(don't say tax refund- if you would
send me several thousand dollars
i would cheerfully send you one back
and keep the rest )
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Re: Open letter to Governor Hickenlooper
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2013, 07:09:24 AM »
I am adding two additional questions:
 
[font=]Is the state going to pay this “fee” back to citizens who are exercising constitution rights or does the Democratic party also intend to impose similar “fees” on Colorado residents intent on exercising their right to free speech, religion, voting, trial by jury etc.?[/font]
[font=]Lastly, do you expect me to be stupid enough to vote for you or any of the Democrat fools in the Colorado House or Senate who shoved this new law down our throats?[/font]
There are indeed several more questions I would like answered, however I don't actually expect an answer from Hickenlooper. This was written primarily as a letter to the editor of our local paper. The paper limits letters to 500 words or less and I had to reedit my thoughts a couple of times to get it down to 500 words and still hit the high points of the background check bill alone. Of course it is ridiculous to require us to pay a fee for a background check which we don't even want, it is not as if the state is providing a service to us, it is clearly just a penalty imposed on law abiding gun owners and that was the point I was trying to make.
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Re: Open letter to Governor Hickenlooper
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2013, 06:44:54 PM »
I am adding two additional questions:
 
[font=]Is the state going to pay this “fee” back to citizens who are exercising constitution rights or does the Democratic party also intend to impose similar “fees” on Colorado residents intent on exercising their right to free speech, religion, voting, trial by jury etc.?[/font]
[font=]Lastly, do you expect me to be stupid enough to vote for you or any of the Democrat fools in the Colorado House or Senate who shoved this new law down our throats?[/font]
There are indeed several more questions I would like answered, Of course it is ridiculous to require us to pay a fee for a background check which we don't even want, it is not as if the state is providing a service to us, it is clearly just a penalty imposed on law abiding gun owners and that was the point I was trying to make.

Here in the Republik of kalifornia the fee started out at about $10. Now it's up to about $40. The sky is the limit as far as politicians and fees are concerned. They'll figure out a way to spend that fee money one way or another.
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Re: Open letter to Governor Hickenlooper
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2013, 02:34:07 PM »
COYOTEJOE. Good for you Sir. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
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Re: Open letter to Governor Hickenlooper
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2013, 09:41:04 AM »
all gun control laws are unconstitutional.   "shall not be infringed" covers it.
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