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Steve Watson
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Mar 21, 2013
UPDATE: 14 Members of Congress Demand Investigation of Obama’s Ammo Horde
Speaking at CPAC with Infowars and We Are Change reporter, Luke Rudkowski, Congressman Timothy Huelscamp revealed this week that the Department of Homeland Security has refused to answer questions from “multiple” members of Congress regarding its recent purchase of huge amounts of weapons and ammunition.
 
“They have no answer for that question. They refuse to answer that,” Huelscamp said.
“I’ve got a list of various questions of agencies about multiple things. Far from being the most transparent administration in the world, they are the most closed and opaque,” the Congressman added.
 
“They refuse to let us know what is going on, so I don’t really have an answer for that. Multiple members of Congress are asking those questions,” he added.
“It comes down to during the budget process, during the appropriations process, are we willing to hold DHS’s feet to the fire?”
“We’re going to find out… I say we don’t fund them ’til we get an answer. Those type of things really challenge Americans. They are worried about this administration,” Huelscamp urged.
 

The Congressman’s comments come in the wake of a demand for answers from New Jersey Congressman Leonard Lance on the same subject.
“I would like a full explanation as to why that has been done and I have every confidence that the oversight committee ….should ask those questions,” said Lance, adding that he shared a belief, “that Congress has a responsibility to ask Secretary Napolitano as to exactly why these purchases have occurred.”
 
The DHS has purchased over 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition over the past year – enough to wage a 20 year plus war. Earlier this month, Forbes Magazine called for a “national conversation” on the matter.
During the CPAC interview, Congressman Huelscamp also spoke briefly about why he voted twice against the National Defense Authorization Act, stating that it was because of the lack of detail regarding the provision in the bill to allow for incarceration of Americans without due process.
 
“I think it’s something that is so Constitutionally suspect,” Huelscamp said. “It’s one of those things, if you’re not absolutely crystal clear on a Constitutional issue like that, we shouldn’t take those chances.”
“I gather there are folks on the other side who think they covered that. I just don’t think we did a good enough job,” the Congressman added. “And based on how hard it was for Senator Paul to get an answer out of the administration, very clearly we need to make it absolutely clear that there are Constitutional protections in this country.”
The Congressman also spoke with regards to the recent and ongoing furor over the Obama administration’s intentions for using drones domestically and it’s withholding of information on it’s overseas drone program.
 
“One of the difficulties I have as a member of Congress is the failure of this administration to provide information on what is actually going on,” Huelscamp said.
“When we take office we sign an oath to office, but we also sign a little card that says we have access to classified military intelligence, and I’ll just tell you, this administration and prior administrations are not very clear or transparent with the folks that actually control their budget.”
“Every member of Congress should know the answers to those questions, and whether or not they can share them,” the Congressman concluded.
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Steve Watson is the London based writer and editor for Alex Jones’ Infowars.com, and Prisonplanet.com. He has a Masters Degree in International Relations from the School of Politics at The University of Nottingham, and a Bachelor Of Arts Degree in Literature and Creative Writing from Nottingham Trent University.
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Re: DHS refuses to answer questions about huge weapons, ammo purchases.
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2013, 05:51:50 AM »
But DHS can't be the problem! It has to be all those RW Whiteys hoarding ammunition.
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Re: DHS refuses to answer questions about huge weapons, ammo purchases.
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2013, 06:02:44 AM »
Scary stuff. Probably getting ready for utter chaos in heavily populated areas.  May be related to the fall of the dollar,  its status as the world's currency is being strongly challenged. 
 
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2013, 06:27:06 AM »
So your saying that DHS is planning to shoot thousands of Americans? Over a condition brought on by the White House? Do you think they will be there to protect or contain the Black population? Or more likey to attack and disarm the White population?
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2013, 06:28:26 AM »
not surprising is it? this administration is cloudy and secretive and, i believe, deceptive.


Benghazi and fast & furious are but two examples.


obama was NOT secretive when he was campaigning in 2007-2008 that he wants to change america.


so far: massive tax increase(s) with no immediate benefits to ANYONE...more tax increases and national debt looming...



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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2013, 06:46:40 AM »
Just another example of the most transparent administration in the history of the world.
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2013, 06:57:32 AM »
DHS is probably the insturment that Obama will use to stay in power after his term expires.
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2013, 07:03:07 AM »
DHS is probably the insturment that Obama will use to stay in power after his term expires.

 
Agreed Sir. There is no other reason for DHS to exist. Why do they exist?? What is their purpose, other than to be an overbearing fed beaurocracy?? What do they do that existing agencies haven't done for years?? POWDERMAN.  ::) ::)
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2013, 07:23:08 AM »
It will be a control on ANY "rioting" group.  When the poor middle city types act up they will be contained and left on their own in their neighborhoods.  When the middle class(not just white) act to protect themselves, they will be "part of the problem" and dealt with.  You can look at any of the SMALLER occurances from Watts, to Katrina so see the government mindset.  LE was nowhere to be seen; you couldn't admit or show having a weapon.  The evacuation sight in Denver had fences, and limited access in (makes some sense) and very limited freedom to leave.


The wealthy will have their own security and areas.


As an afterthought, the hospitals have plans to shelter the whole family of essential workers in a disaster.  This is to keep the needed workers from wanting to leave to take care of their own.  But it also will make a special class of person.
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2013, 07:44:29 AM »
I never mentioned race.  Areas of the country that required large resources per person will be the first to riot to get their way.  Doesn't matter what race it is.  Just the nature of the beast. 
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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2013, 07:45:50 AM »
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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2013, 07:53:06 AM »
I never mentioned race.  Areas of the country that required large resources per person will be the first to riot to get their way.  Doesn't matter what race it is.  Just the nature of the beast.
There is no question that the riots will begin in areas with large Black populations. How many large scale White riots have you heard about. Other than the Veterans wanting their pay not many.
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Re: DHS refuses to answer questions about huge weapons, ammo purchases.
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2013, 08:06:14 AM »
Was it not why the DHS was established to protect Americans from being brought down in aircrafts. Now they turn and allow pocket knifes to be carried on board.
Totally ironic! Like they say this white house character and his regime is loaded with deception. He doesn't even show respect for congress. Looks like they have the makings of his own little "dictatorship" following in the footsteps of Saddam.

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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2013, 08:27:30 AM »
 Yup, they've got a purpose behind their stockpiling of munitions..we'll see what it is over the next few years I'm sure. I agree with the statement previously made that it may be the result of our dollars collapse. I think this will occur fairly soon. All in my humble opinion of course.

 
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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2013, 09:06:24 AM »
OH you betcha they will come and get your weapons, there is a precedent. and it werent barry and his gang!
 
 
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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2013, 09:06:25 AM »
On reflection, I think we are heading toward a "PAX ROMANA"
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Re: DHS refuses to answer questions about huge weapons, ammo purchases.
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2013, 12:22:19 PM »
not surprising is it? this administration is cloudy and secretive and, i believe, deceptive.


Benghazi and fast & furious are but two examples.


obama was NOT secretive when he was campaigning in 2007-2008 that he wants to change america.


so far: massive tax increase(s) with no immediate benefits to ANYONE...more tax increases and national debt looming...


Evil never is secretive in what it wants at first . It was we who let it in then it can do as it wants.
Its how it is done , no conflict with free will it has to be the human who ultimately makes the
choises . Just like with your being saved except God does things differently than evil does.
Evil tempted us into beliving it was going to get us out of all our problems .
We took it hook line and sinker, even if those elections were rigged we did nothing to stop it.
But he told the truth at first, he was just vague on how he was going to do it or what it meant .
Evil played by the rules its us who let it in . And its us who allow it to stay .
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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2013, 06:05:12 PM »
The way I see it husseins DHS is not considered to be considered United States Military, am I right??
Fed law says thay US military can NOT be used against civilians, if I remember correctly. even though they have been. Is this husseins way of getting around that?? His brownshirts that he has talked about?? They are building up for something, and it's not for our good. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2013, 08:11:40 PM »
DHS is probably the insturment that Obama will use to stay in power after his term expires.


The Dept Of Homeland Security act of 2002 was established by President GW Bush After Sep 11 2001.

Twenty two agency's fall under it's umbrella.  It was the largest restructuring of the (EXECUTIVE) branch since the Defense Department was established. :o Nothing just happens! This didn't start with the current  criminal in charge. He is part of the plan, as GW was when he  kicked it off with the formation of the DHS.Something they couldn't have done without a catastrophic event like the loss of life and destruction on 911.They have played us and continue to play us until it's to late to resist."IMO"

Interesting times ahead indeed ;)

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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2013, 02:48:33 AM »
Come on guys........it's Bushes fault.

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« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2013, 04:15:14 AM »
Got that!!...Ditto what NW_hunter said....Bush created DHS and the executive private army.
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Now the chickens come home to roost, and we already know what their arming and stockpiling and training is all about....said to be enough for a 20 year war.
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« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2013, 04:23:22 AM »
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« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2013, 04:45:06 AM »
OK Powderman,  so you now believe Alex Jones' claims...how about his past claims, such as Bush/Cheney planned and executed 9/11 to further the neocon conspiracy? 

Do you now support Alex Jones completely or just when he spouts anti-Hussein claims? 
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« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2013, 04:53:48 AM »
Oh by the way, I have been researching the claim of billions of rounds of ammo bought by DHS, and the last bid was a couple of days ago for 360,000 rounds of ammo. Only 2 companies bid on it

1)  A2Z Company out of Montana, a Govt contractor who supplies lots of different things to US Govt including ammo

2) Wright's Interests LLC out of Texas, who by the way is a minority-owned company, whose " interests" include the ownership of CheaperThanDirt.com

Olin Corporation (Winchester) was winning bidder on one of the last ammo purchases
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« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2013, 05:19:07 AM »
OK Powderman,  so you now believe Alex Jones' claims...how about his past claims, such as Bush/Cheney planned and executed 9/11 to further the neocon conspiracy? 

Do you now support Alex Jones completely or just when he spouts anti-Hussein claims?

 
 
Don't be ridiculous. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::)
 
 
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« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2013, 05:27:44 AM »
OK Powderman,  so you now believe Alex Jones' claims...how about his past claims, such as Bush/Cheney planned and executed 9/11 to further the neocon conspiracy? 

Do you now support Alex Jones completely or just when he spouts anti-Hussein claims?

 
 
Don't be ridiculous. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::)
How am I being ridiculous? Your original post was from infowars.com which IS Alex Jones...
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« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2013, 05:44:11 AM »
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You among others just love to throw 3rd Reich innuendo anytime you lack an original thought.
FYI The real brownshirts(SA) fought the Communist sympathizers in the streets in support of their country not to beenslaved to Moscow. Your DHS has no similarity.
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« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2013, 02:28:44 PM »
OK Powderman,  so you now believe Alex Jones' claims...how about his past claims, such as Bush/Cheney planned and executed 9/11 to further the neocon conspiracy? 

Do you now support Alex Jones completely or just when he spouts anti-Hussein claims?

 
 
Don't be ridiculous. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::)
How am I being ridiculous? Your original post was from infowars.com which IS Alex Jones...

 
gabhead. So what?? And your point is?? I don't agree with everything from most news sources or people. Good grief. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
 
 
 
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« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2013, 02:56:37 PM »
Hang in there PM. As time goes on, you will come to appreciate these so called (TIN FOIL HAT) web sites more and more, and dis-trust the tube more and more ;)
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« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2013, 05:00:58 PM »
OK Powderman,  so you now believe Alex Jones' claims...how about his past claims, such as Bush/Cheney planned and executed 9/11 to further the neocon conspiracy? 

Do you now support Alex Jones completely or just when he spouts anti-Hussein claims?

 
Don't be ridiculous. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::)
How am I being ridiculous? Your original post was from infowars.com which IS Alex Jones...

 
gabhead. So what?? And your point is?? I don't agree with everything from most news sources or people. Good grief. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
I guess my point is .... if he's credible enough for you to believe him about claims against Obama, so much so that you feel the need to pass along the message to everyone here, he should be credible enough for you to believe most everything he claims, including the 911 stuff that he's preached for 10+ years...you want to believe anything anyone says bad about Obama, but you choose to believe nothing bad ever said about any right wing nutjob, or any regular Republican or "confirmed-by-you" Christian for that matter.
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