Author Topic: Something Else to think about (Read 3093 times)

George Foster · « **on:** March 26, 2013, 03:02:35 AM »

John Boehner’s financial disclosure form shows he invested $10,000 to $50,000 each in seven firms that had a stake in Canada’s oil sands, the region that produces the oil the pipeline would transport. Those firms include six oil companies: BP, Canadian Natural Resources, Chevron, Conoco Phillips, Devon Energy and Exxon, along with Emerson Electric, which has a contract to provide the digital automation for the first phase of a $9.4 billion Horizon Oil Sands Project in Canada

Boehner claims he has an adviser that handles his investments. I love how his adviser just happened to invest $10,000-$50,000 (times 7) in companies that are involved with the KXL Pipeline that Boehner is adamant about Obama approving. Just a sheer coincidence, I'm sure.

rickt300 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 26, 2013, 03:42:13 AM »

So Boehner is not allowed to make wise investments? Is there some reason you don't want the pipeline built?

George Foster · « **Reply #2 on:** March 26, 2013, 04:18:18 AM »

I don't recall saying anything about whether or not I wanted the pipeline built, or is this something you are assuming about me? If it is remember assuming can make a person be.

magooch · « **Reply #3 on:** March 26, 2013, 04:42:18 AM »

No politician should allow themselves to be invested in ways that conflict with their responsibilities. That would also include Dumycrats. Spend a little time checking out some of their investments.

rickt300 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 26, 2013, 06:23:21 AM »

Quote from: George Foster on March 26, 2013, 04:18:18 AM

I don't recall saying anything about whether or not I wanted the pipeline built, or is this something you are assuming about me? If it is remember assuming can make a person be.

You are assuming his investment is why he is wanting the pipeline built. Those companies stand to make money no matter what the WH Bozo does.

BBF · « **Reply #5 on:** March 26, 2013, 06:24:24 AM »

Start with Pelosi !!!

rickt300 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 26, 2013, 06:26:58 AM »

And Harry Reid's family of lobbyists!

vabeachman · « **Reply #7 on:** March 26, 2013, 06:27:38 AM »

GOP lies, Dem lies, they all lie.

tobster · « **Reply #8 on:** March 26, 2013, 06:52:46 AM »

I would think any investor worth his salt would invest money in oil sand companies. Unless you have been living in a cave ( or the White House ) the potential for growth is quite obvious. I think it would be interesting to see all of our politician's complete investment portfolios, not just something someone cherry picked from Boehner. I would venture to say the majority of them are making money on things that they are voting for or against.

rickt300 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 26, 2013, 06:58:01 AM »

It would have been nice if Romney had requested the investment portfolios of the Senate when the left was screaming about his tax records.

two-blocked · « **Reply #10 on:** March 26, 2013, 09:15:28 AM »

Gary G · « **Reply #11 on:** March 26, 2013, 02:39:59 PM »

Two blocked is the one who is correct.

The only way to stop it is to limit them so that there is nothing to give away. They had a very hard time doing this before the income tax law and the federal reserve was created.

rickt300 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 27, 2013, 03:47:41 AM »

This kind of thing is done a lot. A Friend of mine put together a teachers aid plan that had 1st graders use a certain color pipe cleaner for an art project that was only available from one vendor, his business partner. The plan was "sold" to every grade school in the state and the two made a lot of money. Anybody see anything wrong there? Sometime back a law was proposed to limit the insider trading of the congress and guess what, Reid tabled it. Anyone surprised? I also find it incredible that Boehner is being criticized for investing his own money when Obama took our money (millions of dollars) and squandered it on so many failing "green" projects. The recipients of this money often turned out to be his buddies who helped elect him. I see there is a congressional investigation into Michelle Bachmans presidential campaign, where is the investigation into the MANY indescretions of our leftist president?

magooch · « **Reply #13 on:** March 27, 2013, 05:40:33 AM »

rickt, you're wrong on two counts; the president is not just a leftist, he is a communist and he didn't squander millions on stupid solar projects--it was billions.

ironglow · « **Reply #14 on:** March 27, 2013, 07:39:02 AM »

OK George...
How about disecting these Washingtonians while you're at it?

Pelosi's fight to keep wages in Samoa low for Starkist, the tuna canner her husband owns stock in;
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2007/jan/12/20070112-120720-2734r/

Harry Reid's dirty, "deal in the desert";
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jan/28/nation/na-reid28

Tim Geithner brags about rounding up tax evaders..should have hadcuffed himself;
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/03/geithner-touts-tackling-tax-evaders-failing-pay-taxes/

Then there's Obama & Tony Rezko;
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/03/geithner-touts-tackling-tax-evaders-failing-pay-taxes/

When Obama was elected senator from Illinois, a new, do-little job at over 300K was created for Michelle. As soon as they left Chicago, the job was found to be unneaded, and so abandoned..
http://www.cdobs.com/archive/our-columns/michelle-obamas-job-eliminated/

Perhaps George, you would like to explain those sterling examples of morality to us..
In any case, it is time perhaps that you admitted that many politicians are the new "criminal class"... and party barriers are non-existant where such immorality is concerned.
There's a lot of "dead wood" which should go...

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #15 on:** March 27, 2013, 07:59:36 AM »

so a politician put his own money in a project and people complain about that

. When was the last time a democrat donated his funds to a person on wealfare ? Each has his pet project right ?

I like the guy who invest .

gypsyman · « **Reply #16 on:** March 27, 2013, 10:28:13 AM »

If it's illegal for the common man,(aka-Martha Stewart) then it should be illegal for any politician! gypsyman

jhm · « **Reply #17 on:** March 27, 2013, 11:21:00 AM »

George and you wouldnt invest YOUR own money? At least he invested it, your Osama threw away Millions on GREEN BS of our money and I am sure he recieved a small token of their appreciation. And as far as investing I am in the Middle of the Arkansas Fayeteville Schele project and I have much more invested than Boener does and every MONTHE the checks just keep rolling in!! Keep using NATURAL gas as it is going to make life better for my Grandchildren and life is good for the Bride and meself. Jim

ironglow · « **Reply #18 on:** March 27, 2013, 11:39:04 AM »

Quote from: SHOOTALL on March 27, 2013, 07:59:36 AM

so a politician put his own money in a project and people complain about that . When was the last time a democrat donated his funds to a person on wealfare ? Each has his pet project right ? I like the guy who invest .

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Come on Shootall;
The Democ-rats are always giving money to the poor, homeless, shiftless and lazy..!!

...But they are always very careful to make sure it is our money they give away, not theirs!

rickt300 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 27, 2013, 04:23:24 PM »

Quote from: magooch on March 27, 2013, 05:40:33 AM

rickt, you're wrong on two counts; the president is not just a leftist, he is a communist and he didn't squander millions on stupid solar projects--it was billions.

I stand corrected, I was trying to be polite.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #20 on:** March 28, 2013, 02:16:48 AM »

Quote from: ironglow on March 27, 2013, 11:39:04 AM

Quote from: SHOOTALL on March 27, 2013, 07:59:36 AM
so a politician put his own money in a project and people complain about that . When was the last time a democrat donated his funds to a person on wealfare ? Each has his pet project right ? I like the guy who invest .
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Come on Shootall;
The Democ-rats are always giving money to the poor, homeless, shiftless and lazy..!!

...But they are always very careful to make sure it is our money they give away, not theirs!

OK you got me there

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #21 on:** March 28, 2013, 02:19:21 AM »

Quote from: gypsyman on March 27, 2013, 10:28:13 AM

If it's illegal for the common man,(aka-Martha Stewart) then it should be illegal for any politician! gypsyman

different , she used inside info. he invested before . maybe what he is voting for is good for America . Maybe he belives in it. of course he could be a crook

George Foster · « **Reply #22 on:** March 28, 2013, 02:45:52 AM »

Well Mr Boehner did have affairs with two of his staff, but that makes him something else than a crook.

vabeachman · « **Reply #23 on:** March 28, 2013, 04:17:42 AM »

Politicians are governed by a different set of rules. They can use their insider knowledge to invest and then not have it reported. Most of us who make investments have to report it immediately. The STOP act is just a joke. As long as the trade is $10,000 or less the politicians still do not have to report it. Just political window dressing, with their high speed internet access and the extra computers they have requisition, they can still make the same amount of monetary trades, just that each trade comes with a different transaction number. I can imagine they have developed software programs to assist them. Rather than being able to make a $100,000 trade. they just have to divide it up into 10 trades so they don't have to report it. They are the most successful investors due to their insider information and extra rights.

jhm · « **Reply #24 on:** March 28, 2013, 04:20:38 AM »

And what did B. Clinton do?? And there was rumor that your IDOL had a home affair and I am not refering to MILK either Jim

vabeachman · « **Reply #25 on:** March 28, 2013, 04:36:40 AM »

It is actually the STOCK act, not STOP act

rickt300 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 28, 2013, 05:55:24 AM »

Quote from: George Foster on March 28, 2013, 02:45:52 AM

Well Mr Boehner did have affairs with two of his staff, but that makes him something else than a crook.

How does that make him a crook? Because women like him?

ChungDoQuan · « **Reply #27 on:** March 29, 2013, 02:09:34 AM »

It's a matter of perspective: I'M a socio-capitalist. Obama is as far right of me as the TP'ers are right of Obama. Do I have to point it out again? Goldman Sachs is worth 9 TIMES the federal deficit of the United States. There are 289 multinationals larger than Goldman Sachs. Do y'all honestly think any of them give a tinker's dam about the common people of the US? (Or anyone else, for that matter.)

rickt300 · « **Reply #28 on:** March 29, 2013, 05:22:38 AM »

Quote from: ChungDoQuan on March 29, 2013, 02:09:34 AM

It's a matter of perspective: I'M a socio-capitalist. Obama is as far right of me as the TP'ers are right of Obama. Do I have to point it out again? Goldman Sachs is worth 9 TIMES the federal deficit of the United States. There are 289 multinationals larger than Goldman Sachs. Do y'all honestly think any of them give a tinker's dam about the common people of the US? (Or anyone else, for that matter.)

Perfect post CDQ! We all knew this. Socio capitalist is not the proper term, communist elitist is closer. If indeed you are so far left of our Constitution and believe we should have no rights other than same sex marriage why then are you posting on a pro civil rights board?

ChungDoQuan · « **Reply #29 on:** March 29, 2013, 12:55:47 PM »

Still jumping to extremes, I see. "Socio-capitalism" is all about MODERATION. MOST of the civilized world follows this economic system, since it is the only one that is stable long-term. It seeks to avoid creation of corpocratic capitalist overlords.