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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/29/sheriff-says-ga-toddler-killed-by-7-dogs-in-yard-as-mother-other-adults-were/
 
Sheriff says Ga. toddler killed by 7 dogs in yard as mother, other adults were inside house 
Published March 28, 2013
Associated Press   ELLABELL, Ga. –  A toddler who slipped outside through a doggie door was mauled to death by her family's seven dogs in the backyard while the attack went unnoticed by child's mother and other relatives inside their home, a southeast Georgia sheriff said Thursday.
Bryan County Sheriff Clyde Smith said the child's grandmother told investigators she was lying in bed when she heard the pit bulls and pit bull mixes barking, and she looked outside her window to see them dragging the girl. Smith said she began yelling, "They're killing Monica!"
 
It was too late. Monica Renee Laminack, who would have turned 2 years old June 1, was dead by the time an ambulance arrived Wednesday evening. Animal control officers used drugs to euthanize the dogs at the home on a rural road in tiny Ellabell, about 30 miles west of Savannah. Deputies found the girl's shoes, diaper and shredded clothing scattered across the fenced-in yard, Smith said.
"They had dragged the child all over the yard and chewed her and chewed her," Smith said. "They tore her clothes all up."
 
The toddler lived in a modest, two-story house tucked away from the main road. The sheriff said four generations of the same family shared the home, including the child's 18-year-old mother, grandparents and two uncles who are still young boys.
The girl's grandmother, Michelle McIntyre, sat weeping on the tailgate of a pickup outside the home Thursday. Summer Laminack, the child's mother, sat next to her staring silently at the ground.
 
"She's in shock," Barbara Brauda, a friend who was visiting the family, told The Associated Press before a man approached and asked a reporter to leave the property. "She hasn't been doing a whole lot of crying because she's still numb."
The sheriff said at least three adult relatives were inside the home when the dogs killed the girl outside. No criminal charges had been filed Thursday. Smith said he expects charges will be brought after he's had a chance to discuss the case with the district attorney and the girl's family has been given time to hold her funeral.
"I can see child neglect at the very minimum," Smith said.
 
Relatives told investigators the dogs that mauled the child were essentially family pets — a mother dog and six offspring from a litter she had about 16 months ago, the sheriff said.
The dogs had their own doggie doors that let them come in and out of the house as they pleased. The family told deputies the dogs had never attacked a person, though one of them might have killed a cat, Smith said. He said relatives insisted the toddler would play with the dogs and even "use them as pillows while watching TV."
 
Smith said the dogs looked healthy and well-fed, and investigators found no signs they were being used as fighting dogs by their owners.
"They said they have never been aggressive to other people," he said. "Why they got started I have no idea."
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Re: GA toddler killed by 7 dogs in yard, mother, other adults in house.
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2013, 12:33:56 PM »
Gee, I wonder how I knew pit bulls were involved, by just reading the title of the thread?
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Re: GA toddler killed by 7 dogs in yard, mother, other adults in house.
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2013, 12:46:24 PM »
YEP! I don't know how many times I've heard: It's all in how you raise em. ::)  A pit bull has an extremely high prey drive, and intellectually, their stupid. These two factors is what makes them willing to fight to the death, and the same prey drive is what triggers attacks. Little children's shrill voices at play have triggered this drive many, many times.
Dogs don't see children as children. They see them as siblings they have to step over to be the alpha, and this is what happens when some idiot thinks his good natured had em all their lives pit bull decides its time to move up in the pack.
I put em down ON SIGHT on my place. I gave one owner a second chance a couple of years ago and it ended up being far more trouble than it was worth. No mas'.
 
The owners AND the parents if they are different in this case should be charged with murder, and put in the pen.
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Re: GA toddler killed by 7 dogs in yard, mother, other adults in house.
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2013, 02:51:12 PM »
Terrible.
My heart goes out to this family.
And as far as charging anyone with anything ,,,,
I doubt you could do anything that could be more of a punishment than what they have gone through already and have to live with for the rest of their lives.
And as for the dogs?
Pitbulls or beagles ,,it makes no difference.
I was raised with dogs and love them.
But dogs ARE HUNTERS!
Any dog will give chase when something runs from them.
And when you have a pack of any breed they become hunters.
Just the  thought of what happened in that yard sickens me more than anything I ever saw in my life.
I have dogs I would bet my life on that they wouldn't bite any of the grandkids,,,,BUT ! My life isn't worth as much as any of theirs, so I don't let them around the dogs by themselves.
No matter what the breed.
 

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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2013, 03:12:01 PM »
Not true when it comes to Pits or Beagles.  Pits are involved in twice the fatal maulings than any other breed.

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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2013, 03:12:59 PM »
When there's no consequences for actin a fool, there's little reason to stop actin a fool.
The absolute only thing I've ever seen that a pit was good for was a catch dog huntin hogs. The rest of the time they belong in a cage, or a hole in the ground. The whole world knows what a pit bull can, and does do, so there is no reason for it to happen as often as it does. Feel sorry for the family? I feel sorry for a 2 year old girl with fools for guardians, and her being torn apart like a discarded stuffed animal.
Do you know what it feels like to be bitten by a dog with 1300+ psi bite pressure?  Have you ever seen a kid's face demolished by a pit, or fingers missin, or forearms crushed?
 
I've seen shepherds, and heelers, and border collies, nip kids when they tried to herd them back into the yard, and I made my living not handlin patrol dogs, but training patrol dogs. I know what pushes their buttons. I also spent 20 years of my life dealin with pit bulls, and their owners, tellin me what a good dog he had always been, they just didn't understand why he did what he did. He did it cause he's a pit bull, and that's what pit bulls do when the right button is pushed. Pit bulls aren't misunderstood, their dangerous! Their a long damn way from bein a beagle, or a collie.
Now I'll try and shut up about this, cause it still makes me madder than hell, when I hear about another kid fallin victim to macho fools, and pit bulls. >:(
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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2013, 03:36:44 PM »
I'm saying ANY DOG has the ability to turn into a hunter when  in a pack.
Would you trust a child with any breed of dog?
I wouldn't.
They are dogs with the natural born instinct to give chase and bring down prey.
No matter how tame they are,,, they still  have that natural instinct  deep down inside them.

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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2013, 03:48:43 PM »
the reason this child is dead is
because of parental neglect.
if the heading didn't say ga. i would
have easily believed it were here.
i see, thousands of times, every year
here kids running amok with the
parent inside sucking a bottle or joint,
parent on the i-phone online or
texting, busy smoking a cigarette,
busy eating, ad infinitum.
here , one can drive these local streets
and see dozens of kids outside,
alone, with no parent in sight. these modern
kids scream like they are being run
through a brush chipper all the time,
at play having fun, or after they've
fell and made a boo-boo. there is no
way to tell if they're being raped or molested
or mauled by a pack of dogs or just playing.
bulldozing all the dogs someone hates
into a big ditch isn't going to fix it.
maybe obama care needs to offer a
spay and neuter program for humans,
because it's glaringly obvious that
there are millions of humans having
babies that they neither want or are
sufficiently able to care for in an
acceptable manner. one across the
way just came in a few minutes ago
that has made several babies that
he doesn't want and has no means of
support, but the money always seems
to be there for smokes and beer and tattoos
and loud car speakers.
animals are animals, not people.
ever.
period.



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Re: GA toddler killed by 7 dogs in yard, mother, other adults in house.
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2013, 03:49:17 PM »
Any dog has the potential to initiate a fatal attack.......Pits are more likely....no question.  Comparing a Pit to all breeds is  dishonest.

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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2013, 03:53:30 PM »
Any dog has the potential to initiate a fatal attack.......Pits are more likely....no question.  Comparing a Pit to all breeds is  dishonest.
Dishonest?
Would this terrible attack been any less terrible if it were sheperds, dobies, or dashunds?
 

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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2013, 03:53:55 PM »
I had a shepherd that charged straight into the muzzle blast of a 357 magnum to save me. I once had a shepherd tear the headliner out of a Crown Vic patrol car tryin to get to me when to gang members had me down.
You can drive down a country road here, and see 150 lb Great Pyrenees male dogs that will die protecting sheep against multiple coyotes. They live with the sheep and won't leave them. Try and get a child out of a pickup with the family blue heeler inside that doesn't know you. All dogs aren't the same.
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2013, 04:01:22 PM »
i've had several pits that were good dogs.
most jughead welfare cases around here use
pits for
cop alarms, and to keep other gang types
from sneaking up and getting their dope
stash, or to fight.
i've had some really great blooded ger.shepards
that the gang types and dope dealers killed.
my neighbor in the country has several teeny
dogs, one of which has bitten me several
times while visiting at their home.


dogs do what you train 'em for.
all of 'em.
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2013, 04:10:57 PM »
A friend of mines sister is deaf and dumb. She was attacked by a pit as she was walking down the street. It came at her from behind catching her by surprise. Being deaf and dumb she never heard it and couldn't scream. A witness beat it off her with a bat. He said the dog was biting big chunks of meat from her arms and shoulders, got her neck and face too. I have no use for pits. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2013, 04:15:07 PM »
i've had several pits that were good dogs.
most jughead welfare cases around here use
pits for
cop alarms, and to keep other gang types
from sneaking up and getting their dope
stash, or to fight.
i've had some really great blooded ger.shepards
that the gang types and dope dealers killed.
my neighbor in the country has several teeny
dogs, one of which has bitten me several
times while visiting at their home.


dogs do what you train 'em for.
all of 'em.

Dogs do what they are bred for!  We just enhance the behavior.

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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2013, 04:23:48 PM »
I had a shepherd that charged straight into the muzzle blast of a 357 magnum to save me. I once had a shepherd tear the headliner out of a Crown Vic patrol car tryin to get to me when to gang members had me down.
You can drive down a country road here, and see 150 lb Great Pyrenees male dogs that will die protecting sheep against multiple coyotes. They live with the sheep and won't leave them. Try and get a child out of a pickup with the family blue heeler inside that doesn't know you. All dogs aren't the same.
And you can check the stats and see where owners were killed by their shepherds.
Some were even trained service dogs that turned on their handlers.
I had a rott that would fetch a 20 pound sledge.
I could get nose to nose with him while teaseing him with his lipps curled and jaws popping at me.
And my nose would touch his.
He never bit me or any of the kids ,,or he would been dead.
We also had a beagle pup that would hang from his lip with those needle puppy teeth.
And he would never hurt her.
But any ground hog , coon, or neighbors chow (that was supposed to be a bad  ass) wondered into the yard was dead!
So should I consider all rotts safe around kids?
NO!
Dogs have  natural instincts.
You might train them to resist them,,,but they are still there.
Example being even trained shepherds at times can turn on their owners.
 

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« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2013, 04:24:35 PM »
That FPH is a FACT! Just like cow horses, and runnin horses. Milk cows, and beef cows. Ownin a dog doesn't mean one necessarily understands the dog's thought process, or instincts.
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« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2013, 04:26:23 PM »
Dee is right.  This is a catastrophically stupid argument.  Dog breeds exist for a single reason, and you either know that reason, or you are ignorant beyond help.  Tell me, pitbull guys, what is the reason dog breeds exist? 
 
Ok, I'll give in... It is to enhance a trait we, as the breeders, want to cultivate.  That's why it's so unbearably stupid to call all dogs the same.  It's not only not true, it's not close.  Race your draft horses do you?  Hitch a plow to your Shetland?  Run coyotes with a lab?  Tie up pigs with a toy poodle?  You can't, I mean this, you can't believe that.  If you do, you're too stupid to find your way onto a computer and I'm not reading your "opinion".  So the question is, why do choose to say things you know are wrong?  I've got an idea, and someone above hit on a word I think his pretty close to home...  Wanna guess?
 
What an horrible, preventable, tragic, waste of life, poor kids didn't get to pick their parents...

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« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2013, 04:41:13 PM »
Dee is right.  This is a catastrophically stupid argument.  Dog breeds exist for a single reason, and you either know that reason, or you are ignorant beyond help.  Tell me, pitbull guys, what is the reason dog breeds exist? 

 

So then what was the german shepherd bred for?
Was it to kill their owners and handlers?
I'm not saying pitts don't kill.
I'm saying that ANY dog has the abiity to kill.
No matter what the breed is.
And again I will ask, Would this be any less tragic if the child was killed by another breed?
I'm old enough to remember when the shepherd was considered the demon dog,,then it went to the doberman, then onto the rott and pitt.
And I'd bet that if the drug dealers and gang bangers would start getting shepherds, that the most human kill from dogs title would go to the shepherd.
 
 

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« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2013, 04:48:40 PM »
You can rationalize all you want.  Yes, other breeds will kill and were bred for that purpose.  It would still be tragic if the little girl was killed by another breed.  However, there is no disputing the FACT that Pits are bred to fight and kill and have the highest rate of fatal maullings ( x2) not the G. Shepard.

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« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2013, 04:51:40 PM »
i'm done when the name calling starts.


i think all will agree the grown-ups that
were supposed to be watching a helpless
child are the stupid ones, not anyone here
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« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2013, 04:53:45 PM »
Dee is right.  This is a catastrophically stupid argument.  Dog breeds exist for a single reason, and you either know that reason, or you are ignorant beyond help.  Tell me, pitbull guys, what is the reason dog breeds exist? 

 

So then what was the german shepherd bred for?
Was it to kill their owners and handlers?
I'm not saying pitts don't kill.
I'm saying that ANY dog has the abiity to kill.
No matter what the breed is.
And again I will ask, Would this be any less tragic if the child was killed by another breed?
I'm old enough to remember when the shepherd was considered the demon dog,,then it went to the doberman, then onto the rott and pitt.
And I'd bet that if the drug dealers and gang bangers would start getting shepherds, that the most human kill from dogs title would go to the shepherd.
If your argument is that I somehow suggested that pitbulls are the only dangerous dogs you found words in my post that I didn't put there.  If you are claiming that they are as dangerous as all other breeds you are, again, choosing to be wrong when you simply must know better.

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Would this be any less tragic if the child was killed by another breed?
Yes.  If it had been a 3.5lb toy poodle it would have been horrible, but far less foreseeable, because statistically and realistically, it would have been infinitely less likely.
 

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« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2013, 04:55:59 PM »
You can rationalize all you want.  Yes, other breeds will kill and were bred for that purpose.  It would still be tragic if the little girl was killed by another breed.  However, there is no disputing the FACT that Pits are bred to fight and kill and have the highest rate of fatal maullings ( x2) not the G. Shepard.

What do you think I'm trying to rationalize?
I know that pitts are at the top of the list when it comes to human kills.
I'm just saying ALL dogs can kill.
But pitts were never bred to kill humans.
For instance,, look at those that are fighters.
The handlers can wade into the middle of a dog fight and seperate the dogs without getting bit by their dog or the other guys dog!
I don't own a pitt ,, but I just can't see why all the hate toward them just out of fear!
 
 

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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2013, 05:05:51 PM »

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I'm just saying ALL dogs can kill.

You know, this is true.  It's not the point, but it's true.  When humans interact with water, they can always drown.  It's possible to drown taking a shower.  Possible for a healthy 30 year old male to drown in the kiddy pool.  Not very statistically significant, but possible.  On the otherhand record holding freedivers hold onto hundreds of pounds of lead and shoot down past depths scuba divers reach.  They drown quite a bit more often, statistically, as do risk taking kayakers or big wave surfers. 
 
Context matters.  That something can kill you doesn't make it equal to something else that is significantly more likely to kill you.  You could get struck by lighting on a clear day, but we don't fly kites in a storm do we?
 
The people who defend dangerous dogs always make the same arguments... 

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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2013, 05:08:13 PM »
Any pit that comes onto my property is dead.  No questions asked.  They are bred to be fighting dogs for generations, and it would take generations to breed it out of them....then you would have a different dog.
 
I don't trust any dog over a few pounds around small children...but then I've never not watched my children when they were that small.
 
In one way I feel sorry for these parents....if they loved the child they have a lifetime of regret.  That does not negate their responsibility.
 
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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2013, 05:16:50 PM »

I don't trust any dog over a few pounds around small children...but then I've never not watched my children when they were that small.
 

 
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And just like a 2 yearold child has more chances to drown in a 6' pool . I never let the 2 year olds play in the kiddie pool without supervision.
 
 
 

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« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2013, 05:19:36 PM »
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What an horrible, preventable, tragic, waste of life, poor kids didn't get to pick their parents...

I spent the Day with my 15 month old grandaughter. We rode the tractor played on the swing, watched TV, took a nap, ate some goody treats and went to town.
 
Just before I found this thread, my wife told me about this happening, I am typing this with tears in my eyes and praying The Lord will comfort the grandfather.......... and parents of that poor child!.................. Especially if he owns those forsaken dogs.
 
 
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« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2013, 07:17:55 PM »
Irresponsible  parents are responsible for the death of this child.
Do Pit Bull type dogs inflict more trauma in an attack than most breeds? Yes. Mastifs,Rotts, Chow Chow's and some others come to mind. Will banning the so called Pit Bull reduce the number of deaths and maulings in America by dogs? I doubt it. It hasn't worked in Great Britian.They clamped down on several breeds or banned them entirely, but the number of deaths and injuries related to dog attacks remain the same.Reducing the numbers of (idiots) raising or attempting to raise children might. Try and remedy that problem ::) If and when the Pit Bull is outlawed in America, there will be another breed to fill the spot. All large and powerful breeds are very dangerous, especially if they are owned by a moron.
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« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2013, 02:48:49 AM »
Police dogs (patrol & handler protection) in the United States are usually, German Shepherds, and Belgium Malinois, and that's for several reasons.  Their bred for INTELIGENCE & TEMPERMENT, character, (yes dogs have character), willingness to learn (train ability), athleticism, dependability, COURAGE, ability to handle stress (mental & physical), and BITE PRESSURE.
I personally learned early in that a huge dog, is not necessary to take a big man into custody. A 60 lb dog is PLENTY, if trained and the dog has the above mentioned traits. The Belgium Malinois fits this bill, but needs a strong handler, as the dog is born in HIGH GEAR. He is an over achiever in the dog world. Not quite as sharp in the mental ability as a German Shepherd (in my opinion), but VERY willing, and pound for pound as tough as it gets in a fight with man. You can hurt him bad, and he won't quit.
The German Shepherd is the best of both worlds, as he has the size (80 lbs is just about right), he's smart, and also willing to go till it's over. He doesn't however handle the heat as well in some climates, and his drive doesn't quite match the Malinois, but there are exceptions.
Here's the difference however in these type dogs, and the pit bull, which is the topic here anyway.
The Shepherd, and the Malinois are bred to work "WITH" MAN", and the pit bull is bred for high prey drive, and tenacity, with just enough social breeding to be handled by man. By the way, a remark was made that a pit bull owner could wade into a fight between two pit bulls and not get bit! That ain't true friend. You will most likely get bit trying to seperate two male chichuachas doin it by hand.
The Poodle is considered to be at the top of the INTELLENGENCE CHAIN of dogs, with the German Shepherd in the top 5 if I remember correctly, and the Belgium Malinois being just below that.
The BULLDOG is at the bottom on intelligence, and is generally considered by trainers of working dogs, as the "class idiot", and the pit bull fits that bill. A pit bull's prey drive RUNS THE DOG.
But here is where the REAL DANGER is evident. A big German Shepherd when it's jaws are "about" closed, has a bite pressure of about 700 psi, to 800 psi. A Belguim Malinois is about 600 psi to 700 psi, while an average pit bull starts a around 1100 psi, and can go above 1300 psi.
Most SMART police dept.s have quit using Rottweilers for this same reason. LIABILITY! The Rotti is territorial, and has a "crushing bite". They don't handle the heat well, and the stress gets them quicker.
I'll give an example on stress. Take a well trained "drug dog" to search a car. Just a walk around search. Take a rectal thermometer, and check his temp. Then key him to search the car, and do the walk around search, then immediately take his temp again. It will most likely be 2 to 5 degrees higher. Why? Because dogs don't handle stress like people do. Their different than you think they are, and they don't think like us.
Now this is not to make you realize how smart I am, I ain't that smart. But I do know dogs, as it was my job to figure out how to get the most out of'em, and maybe pass a little info on to others.
Now with that said, I'm sure there's a trainer out there that may, or may not, agree with all, or nothing I said. That's ok. I know what worked for me, and very well.
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Re: GA toddler killed by 7 dogs in yard, mother, other adults in house.
« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2013, 03:45:22 AM »
Maybe this thread should have been tittled"PIT BULLS KILL AGAIN"
I seen the story and thought how tragic that a (child was mauled.)
Others see the story and think( it's those pit bulls )
As if the breed of dog is the main story!
What matters people is that a child was killed by a pack of dogs!
Should it matter what breed it was?
For that sake does it matter if they were dogs, ground hogs or crazed skunks?
What matters when you start pointing fingers and dishing out the blame is that the child less than 2 years old should have never been allowed to get outside ,,dogs or no dogs!
A 2 year old could just as easy gotten out into traffic and killed without supervision.

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Re: GA toddler killed by 7 dogs in yard, mother, other adults in house.
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2013, 04:02:12 AM »
I had a very long response typed out for this thread  but deleted it because I know how some of you guys are.
But I will say this. I shoot any mutt that comes on my property. All my neighbors know this.
 
Anyone who has a dog bred for any agressvive behavior, good or bad, has to live with the potential of what it might do.
 
I won't live with thier possibility.
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