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Offline Spirithawk

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Anyone collect?
« on: March 30, 2013, 05:31:29 PM »
Here are a few of my personal finds. Artifact hunting is one of my greatest passions. :) Anyone else collect?
 

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Re: Anyone collect?
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2013, 05:55:02 PM »
i used to collect u.s. silver coins, but
most were stolen sometime back.
i have one morgan dollar that a friend
gave me left.
i collected knives quite a bit back when
work and cash flow was good back during
reagan and two bushes. since i get laid
off every other year since 2008, iv'e sold
most of my expensive knives instead of
letting the crackheads hereabouts steal them.
i've kind of started looking harder for artifacts
around my place. i have an unidentified brass
triggerguard (i'm thinking enfield) that i got
there. the area was once one of the largest
cotton centers after the southeast had some
vandals come through and destroy most
of the southern cotton supply. it's also
just off the el camino real. a spanish mission
was established about 15-20 minutes to the
south of there in about 1690. just to the
north there is a cemetery from back in the
republic days.
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2013, 06:07:53 PM »
My little brother does. He literally has tons of Llano points. Probably more than you could could haul off with 3 pickups. He's been collecting since 1989. The only thing that I'm aware of that he doesn't have is a tomahawk head. But arrowheads, bird points, scrappers, drills, trading points, axes, one knife complete with most of the handle, he even has some stone toys, at least we think they're toys. They are small heads carved out of flint with holes in them, maybe for a necklace- we really don't know. He traveled West Texas around Del Rio to Sonora and lived at Pandale for about 5 years. He then moved to Carte Valley and has been living SE of Laredo for the last 16 years. LOTS of Indian camps where he lives now. We look for the white snail shells and burnt rocks. Some of the camps go for miles. Every time it rains there's a new crop of something to be found. WE don't bother to pick up the broken stuff anymore.
Looks like you have a good selection. Love the Atlatl points. That's what most of the Indians used around here and it's my understanding the Llano points and trading points were for the Atlatl, not a bow. Regardless  it takes a person of a lot of patience to make those tiny points. I've never tried to make one but I've seen it done.

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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2013, 06:22:09 PM »
used to see a lot of them hunting
around sonora and fort mc kavett.


i wish i'd picked some up.
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2013, 08:06:14 AM »
I have a few Native American artifacts . What I collect are old wooden decoys that were gunned over. I concentrate on Canvasbacks and coots from the Chesapeake Bay area.
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2013, 08:50:32 AM »
Here are a few of my personal finds. Artifact hunting is one of my greatest passions. :) Anyone else collect?
 

Color me green with envy. I have found one larger head. I did buy one from a fellow out in Hot Springs SD watched him make it. He was American Indian so I gotta believe it counts. :D  My grand mother had a fist sized ax head of what looked like granite , don't know what became of it.
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2013, 06:27:27 PM »
my dad's been an avid hunter since he was in grade school, so i grew up with em. never really been into it before but here recently i've kinda picked up a little interest

anyone ever go to shows?

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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2013, 07:09:21 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2013, 01:31:32 PM »
I used to collect arrowsheads, etc. I don't have a really large collection but I found most of them on the farm I grew up so they are kind of special to me. I still look around when I go over to check the crop but I haven't found anything in years. I also found quite a few where I live now. Most of the land here that has artifacts is BLM land and the feds say it's a no-no to pick up anything like that anymore. They think it's better for them to lay in the dirt that to be collected so they can be enjoyed,

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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2013, 01:55:56 PM »
Not only do you have a nice collection of Arrow heads, but the display is pure art!
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2013, 03:16:34 PM »
I've got several of those old plastic storage bins full, but few nice ones.  Years ago I happened up on the "factory" where they were made, and picked up hundreds of broken or unused ones.
My best piece is a tiny mortar and pestle that was used to make face paint.  It's intact and perfect.
You have a great collection of really great points.
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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2013, 03:19:03 PM »
Thanks. :) I know where several ancient campsites are. I spent a lot of time finding these. All were surface finds. I am known for  finding pieces where others don't because I follow a strict rule. I place a pinch of cornmeal, or tobacco, on the ground where each piece is found and then say thank you in Tsalagi ( Cherokee ). My way of both thanking and paying respect to those who made these. They range from Paleo 11,500 - 8,000 BP ( Before Present ), early Archaic 10,000 - 6,500 BP, Mid-Late Archaic 6,000 - 4,000 BP, Terminal Archaic 3,800 - 3,000 BP, Early-Middle Woodland 2,000 - 1,500 BP, Late Woodland (Also called Mississippian Period) 1,500 - 500 BP and Historic 350 - 200 BP.  Here's a few more frames;
 

Bird Points ( Actualy war points ), Thunderbird Drill, Paddle Drill, Ceremonial Flint Fish Hook ( Was told the hook is one of 5 known to exist )

 
Paleo and Archaic pieces

 
Adena Dickson frame Woodland Period

 
Knives and scrapers Paleo to Woodland Periods

 

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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2013, 03:29:02 PM »
nice!
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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2013, 03:49:36 AM »
Great collection Spirithawk. When you consider that arrows were retrieved and recycled when possible and yet the ground is littered with them, there must have been a lot of people shooting a lot of arrows over a lot of years.
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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2013, 04:14:45 AM »
You have a cool collection Spirithawk.

I used to collect belt buckles years ago.  Nothing especially valuable just stuff that interested me or had some significance such as places I lived,  places I vacationed, hobbies and trades.

For instance I have several buckles depicting firearms or gun manufacturers logos.  I have a buckle with the State crest for every state I ever lived in.  I have buckles that depict carpentry tools.   I spent summers on Cape Cod and have several nautical themed buckles including some with wampum and scrimshaw.   But I have not added any to the collection in many years. 
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« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2013, 04:27:28 AM »
Many years ago when money flowed in a land far away ;) I had quite a collection of hats (Baseball Type) Caps.Every company in America gave them to you back then.Now, you have to pay for the logo. Also had a Budweiser Stein collection I just gave away to the Grand Pups.Now I'm making and collecting knives and wrinkles ;)
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« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2013, 12:18:18 PM »
Just like people of today Spirithawk, you can look those arrow heads and see who had talent and who lacked it. Who wanted to do their best and who just wanted to get by. Great collection thanks for showing.

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« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2013, 01:12:09 PM »

 Spirithawk, You have a beautiful collection. Obviously they chose you to find them, although i don't doubt your skill in the hunt.

 I too have always been amazed that there are so many projectiles lying around until i realized the size of the native Americans villages during the woodland period, the scope of their trail network and the huge amount of trading done.  might find arrowheads from flint knapped off in Ark in any state you find them in. Our own morrow mt in the piedmont section of N.C. was known for its quality flint and was traded far and wide among the natives. Nothing would be more thrilling here in the south to find an obsidian point.. they're certainly out there..

  My few points in this pic are the ones i've found during hunting outings, with a few exceptions they were all found in Charlotte N.C near what was a large village of Sugaw indians off 12 mile creek. A kind farmer who owned the land showed me where their village and original field outlines stood beside the creek, he said the 100 yard wide strip of land containing their crops went beside the creek all the way to lake wylie, some 6 miles away. 6 miles of planted land shared with the Catawba indians. Amazing. A book i later read about this areas natives confirmed many miles of planted areas along the creeks of the region. those arrowheads i've come across always seemed to me to have wanted to be seen, right in my face. Only a mile or so away is a landmark known locally as the "big rock", its a 5000sq ft rock, sitting alone in a forest with nothing else like it anywhere around. It was known to Wanderers as far back as 30,000 years according to recent digs. On its face, is dozens of carved out ovens with a lower fire chamber and upper baking or smoking shelf(see pic) I grew up roaming those same forest as umpteen thousands of other kids many thousands of years before me. We walked the same trails, we camped the same sandy creekside beaches, we walked in each others footsteps and when in the woods i never forget them, actually realized many times they're still there.  By the way, the 2 pieces of pottery and the birdpoint were not Sugaw or Catawba but rather were found on the edge ofan oyster shell pile on edisto island S.C. when i was much younger. The birdpoint is bone i think and not very old i'd guess.

  I like seeing the differences between points, you can spot a masters work from an apprentice easily enough but it was interesting to learn that good or bad arrowheads still follow the same exact patterns if of a similar age, even arrowheads of similar age from different states will be amazingly similar in size and design. The Native Americans were much more organized and civilized than they were given credit for.

 

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