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Offline Doublebass73

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Re: why are you NOT in the libertarian party??
« Reply #60 on: April 04, 2013, 03:56:49 AM »
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Libertarians also support removing all incentives for 3rd world primitives to come here. If there were no welfare state then there is no need for a border fence.

 
 
 
That is most certainly not true.  Even without the welfare, they would still come here for the work.
Welfare parasites are at least 95% of the problem. Eliminate the welfare state and anchor babies, the rest can be taken care of by enforcing existing immigration laws. The few people that want to come here and earn honest livings are most certainly not the problem.
 
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Re: why are you NOT in the libertarian party??
« Reply #61 on: April 04, 2013, 04:34:22 AM »
Libertarians are by there very nature independent. Getting them headed in a direction with a common goal is like herding cats. Hell they are happy to tell you they are all over the map. They take as a matter of pride that they are of no use to any particular political party. As such they get little to no political attention.


The best you here about the libertarian group is this, "they have a lot of fine ideas, with no way of implementing them" . They are their own worst enemy. Standing up for principle as you are shot down by idiots with bb guns, millions of them. They will not stand behind a simple wall to survive, on principle. Those they battle with could not give a damn about the high and mighty principle.


you  have  explained  exactly  why  I AM NOT IN THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY


EQ, you have fine theory concerning Libraterians but, you really don't have clue of what you speak. I spent 20 years in a para-military organization where EVERYONE had to pull in the same direction, and I'm a Libratarian.
Your voting strategy isn't working, your candidates suck, and much like the Democrats, you refuse to take responsibility,
DEE
you  just proved  EQs point
also  you and many others have CORRCTLY pointed  out
my voting ''strategy  is not working''.....and i must say  no offence but neither is yours
BUT   i look at the stadegy  of the winner......[defined as the one that is in office]


SOMETHING THE LIBERTARIANS REFUSE TO DO....learn from  the one that takes the office




but hearding   cats   as EQ  pointed  out....... can be done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_MaJDK3VNE

when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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no one is encouraged to do anything dangerous or break any laws.

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Re: why are you NOT in the libertarian party??
« Reply #62 on: April 04, 2013, 04:36:29 AM »
Dee;
  Of course you can declare as you wish, but I am a bit surprised that you consider yourself a Libertarian.  We know you have strong Christian values, while Libertarians are inclined to either shun or denounce Christian values being introduced into their conversations.
    If one wants to embrace strong conservative values ..low taxes, limited government, RTKBA, and self-sufficiency.. along with Judeo-Christian values... the Tea Party would seem to be a natural for you..  ..But again, that's your choice to make.
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Re: why are you NOT in the libertarian party??
« Reply #63 on: April 04, 2013, 04:43:26 AM »
some where between the libertarians  and the rebublicans  is what we  need


NOT  something  between  republicans  and democrats
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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Re: why are you NOT in the libertarian party??
« Reply #64 on: April 04, 2013, 07:49:48 AM »
Dee,
I keep checking my bible and can't find the passage that says in order to be a Christian you must also be a Republican. Can you point me in the right direction? ;)
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Re: why are you NOT in the libertarian party??
« Reply #65 on: April 04, 2013, 08:14:23 AM »
I'm a repub, by registration, because I used to be one by conviction, now it's just inertia. Plus, to vote in primary
...We know you have strong Christian values, while Libertarians are inclined to either shun or denounce Christian values being introduced into their conversations.
That's a crock.
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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Re: why are you NOT in the libertarian party??
« Reply #66 on: April 04, 2013, 02:35:39 PM »
I'm a repub, by registration, because I used to be one by conviction, now it's just inertia. Plus, to vote in primary
...We know you have strong Christian values, while Libertarians are inclined to either shun or denounce Christian values being introduced into their conversations.
That's a crock.


 Lot's of Libertarians in my circle, and most are devout Christians.On the flip side. I have some Republican friends that are either agnostic or Atheist.Libertarians for the most part leave Religion out of politics. (It's a personal thing)They believe in representing all regardless of their religious beliefs.

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Re: why are you NOT in the libertarian party??
« Reply #67 on: April 04, 2013, 02:46:52 PM »
that is the way i see it too


the few i have talked with that actually ran for office
were pro-life  and express the  ''party is just right in every other respect''


they later ran s republicans............got tired of losing
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

many statements made here are fiction and are for entertainment purposes only and are in no way to be construed as a description of actual events.
no one is encouraged to do anything dangerous or break any laws.

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Re: why are you NOT in the libertarian party??
« Reply #68 on: April 04, 2013, 03:17:54 PM »
Some of you guys are so full of crap, I'll bet your eyes are brown, and your so full of yourselves on being right on this votin issue I sometimes wonder why I bother sharing my views.
My method of voting is pretty straight forward and it IS workin for me.
I check "Voting Records" of the candidates, and their past performance.
When McCain ran you guys backed that sold out sxb. If you had got him in we would now have troops fightin in Lybia & Syria. This last time you voted for a heathen that makes God into a man and Mary into an adulterer, and now have the audacity to question MY faith.
I vote for the most honest, and forthright man, while you guys wring your hands and fret about why I don't run in the same circle ya'll do, and chase my tail like ya'll do.
My consience is clear. I'm about what's right, not what bridge everbodies jumpin off of.
Good day gents, I've read all the goofy philosophy I can stand. My faith is what saves me from such crap.
 
PS iron glow, you don't pack the gear to give an opinion on my faith, it's way above your pay grade. Your just another Guy that thinks he knows how ta fix something he help create.
I don't have to justify my vote. It's mine to use as I see fit. I earned it.
Now I'm done.
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Re: why are you NOT in the libertarian party??
« Reply #69 on: April 04, 2013, 04:06:01 PM »
my  only claim  is i know numbers  better the the average person


in this  case  i have no doughts and the test scored to proof it



i respect and learn from you DEE  and the the rest
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

many statements made here are fiction and are for entertainment purposes only and are in no way to be construed as a description of actual events.
no one is encouraged to do anything dangerous or break any laws.

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Re: why are you NOT in the libertarian party??
« Reply #70 on: April 04, 2013, 04:28:31 PM »
As long as ya'll are willin to stay in the box you got in they will let you. Until the voter gets tired of their DC crap, their never gonna change. Blamin people like me for refusing to continue to be a sucker will not unite.
Knowing numbers is valuable in balancing a check book, but doin the same thing over and over seems to be yours and everyone else's answer.
I ain't votin for people like McCain or Romney. THEY "ARE" part of the problem. Do I like Obama? No! But he ain't much worse than the other two.
America is on the skids, and there's no stopping it till hits bottom. Myself, and my family support TParty candidates and their about all we support. Thats all I can do.
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