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Offline MoabBC

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.30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« on: April 03, 2013, 07:43:38 PM »
Just looking for opinions on the handy .30-06.  It is a popular caliber but seems few are fans and I don't see many options from H&R in the -06.


Is there a reason this caliber isn't easy to find in a handi rifle?


I am thinking of selling my BAR -06 and picking up a handi to replace it. I dont see it around in shops or much talk of them online.

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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2013, 11:46:16 PM »
the 06 is a great cal in the handy i had my 223 fitted with a barrel won't sell that puppy it's a shooter you can reload it up or down for just about any animal you want to hunt. :D

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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2013, 12:45:56 AM »
A number of years ago, shortly after I bought my .45-70 I sent the frame in for Huntsman, .357 and stainless .30-06 barrels.  I almost never used the '06.  I just prefer the .308 family and recently sold the .30-06 barrel.  The member here who bought it loves it.  It does shoot well.

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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2013, 12:51:47 AM »
WELCOME!!

The grand ÓL '06 IS a great caliber. Thing is we all know it and many have it, its praises have been sung so much we all know it verbatium. ;)

Its not around probably because it IS SO popular!  Mine is a comp model with Green lam furnature.  Like Pete, I dont shoot it too much either, Its one of 4, 30/06 rifles I own. ;) Great shooter too!

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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2013, 01:35:14 AM »
You must not have read many of Sourdough's post!;D

The first rifle I ever bought was a Handi in 30-06.  Great gun, you cant go wrong.  They're out there, some come thru the classified section every now and then.  I think one reason they are not mentioned much here is there are not very many people who want to rechamber an '06 to something else.  Another reason is all of the changes to primitive hunting seasons in some states have created a resurgence of popularity for pistol and/or older calibers.  (45-70, 45 colt, 357 mag, 44 mag etc.)

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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2013, 02:38:44 AM »
My Handi 30-06 is the most accurate Handi I have. It shoots and with very little to no tweaking.  Hope you find one. thejanitor

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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2013, 03:23:46 AM »
i sure do like mine. gonna have open sights installed.
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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2013, 04:10:52 AM »
On my advice a couple of co-workers bought Handis in 30-06 and they love them.  One of them wanted me to sight his rifle in.  He's not a handloader so I told him to pick up some Remington CL 150s and 180s from Wal-mart. 

I tried the rifle with both bullet weights and found both grouped equally well.  After adjusting the scope I was able to get a nice 1.5 inch group centered two inches high at 100 yards.  I know what you're thinking, 1.5 inch groups are not worth bragging about.  Well that group was 3 rounds of the 150s and three rounds of the 180s.  A six shot group with two bullet weights fired consecutively.  I think that's pretty good.

He has a rifle he can hunt any big game in North America with.

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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2013, 04:18:37 AM »
Its been a long time since Ive seen an '06 Handi on the rack at a gun shop, they either dont order them or they sell pretty quick? Mostly I see 223 or 243's, it may be that these are perceived as 'beginners rifles' so they order the low recoil models?
Only two in '06 recently at local gun shows. One was clean and scoped, c/w lams and $300ish; the other quite a beater, looked like it had been left to float around in the back of a pickup bed. I dont know how a gun can get that bad unless a guy wants to abuse it.
So they do turn up, though it had been a while since I have seen any '06's at gun shows here; seems guys got 'em and keep 'em.
If you want a new one hit your nearest WalMart and ask about their order plan.
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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2013, 04:33:27 AM »
I was lucky enough to find a beautiful 30-06 Ultra Comp at a recent gun show. I paid $340, not a mark on it. I really like that compensator, it has almost no recoil but it is loud as heck! It's one I'll be keeping for a long time.
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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2013, 05:00:58 AM »
I have two of em, an Ultracomp and a stainless in gray lams, too heavy to hunt with for me, but they sure are accurate.  ;)

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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2013, 05:45:18 AM »
Pete!  I wish I had known you had one to sell, I would have been first in line.  And Quick, why do you consider your '06 to be too heavy to hunt with?  I the Ultra Comp on a bull barrel?  I like the idea of the comp, but I don't need or want a bull barrel in anything!  My guns are all for hunting and I like them reasonably light weight because of that.  I love my Handi's, but I wanted one good 'all around' 'do it all' gun and found a model 70 Win featherwt in '06.  That will do anything I ever need to do (don't need no Magnums!).  But now I really need a Handi '06 in the near future.  44 Man
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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2013, 05:56:44 AM »
Lams are nice looking, but the heaviest of all H&R stocks except the Choate Varmint.  ;)

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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2013, 06:01:35 AM »
30-06 seems to be the only caliber that my local WalMart has in stock anymore here in Middle Tennessee. If you don't reload, you should always find ammo for it.

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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2013, 06:28:36 AM »
 Wal-Mart is what got me curious about availability of this caliber. Just about every hunting shop around has a handi rifle or two on the shelf. They are usually the .243 or similar and usually cost a bit more than they should.
I learned from this forum that Wal-Mart will special order H&R. I don't know if that is still true. The Wal-Mart here still had the special order book but said they are no longer allowed to special order any guns since Newtown. All Wal-Mart gun purchasing for individual stores is now done at the national level and he cannot special order anything that isn't already on his shelf. So no .30-06 for me at Wal-Mart prices.
 
 I bought a 2003 handi .243 Ultra Hunter Bull on a whim about a year ago. I knew nothing about H&R, I just liked the price and the good looks. Found this forum after I bought it. I have now declared it my favorite rifle and I want another one. I have been shooting the Federal Fusion .243 95g ammo and have had fantastic results. I like the simplicity. I like the time it takes to reload and reset for another shot.
 
 I have a bunch of .30-06 ammo and looking for a new handi as an excuse to shoot it up.

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« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2013, 06:39:19 AM »
See if they can transfer store to store to get that one in Tenn.
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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2013, 08:26:59 AM »
H&R probably doesn't make as many because you can buy a scoped bolt gun in .30-06 these days for less than $300.

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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2013, 08:43:09 AM »
I have not shot it yet - but just bought a NIB SC2 combo in 30.06/20 gauge at a local gun shop for $270.  I've heard good reports of the handi from the dealer and others in my circle. I know my son's 270 shoots good, so that is the reason I bought mine in the 06.


I sent mine in for a 30/30 barrel and handi grip stock. Have you thought of sending in for a barrel?

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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2013, 08:53:22 AM »
Mad Dog's son sure likes his.  ;D

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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2013, 09:45:56 AM »
Certainly Big Mortie's favorite!  ;)

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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2013, 11:52:25 AM »
I carry one year round here in Alaska.  I bought my first one on a whim back in 1996 at Wal-Mart for $168.00.  Bought it to replace my TCR as spare gun in Moose camp.  It's seen lots of abuse, tipped three wheelers, tipped 4 wheelers, snowmachine crashes.  Even spent two days on the bottom of the Chatinika River.  Still shoots good, on scope number four.  After the drop in the river, could not stop the rust, so it got the camo treatment.  Rustolium green textured paint for all the metal.  Rustolium Black Accents for the wood, still got the original pallet wood stock underneath.  This gun is almost always with me, if not as my main gun as back-up incase the big gun gets broke.

This gun has taken an uncountable number of Wolves, Black Bears, Caribou, Moose, and Coyotes.  Still looking to take a Grizzly with it.  I've shot the heads off Grouse and Ptarmigan at 25 yards.  (Missed more than I have hit)  Killed a Moose at 80 yards with a Speer 125gr TNT.  Yea I know that is not a Moose bullet, it's all I had with me at the time.  One shot behind the ear, Moose fell like a load of bricks.  Have hit Wolves out to 700 yards myself.  My hunting buddy used it to kill a Wolf at just over a 1000 yards.

   

I liked it so well I bought an Ultra Comp in 30-06, off a fellow here on Graybeard.  I like the Ultra Comp, and have used it some.  Took a Caribou with it.  But I keep going back to old faithful, it's proven and I don't care if it gets scratched, grated, dropped, or sunk underwater.  It still works, all the time, everytime.  Oh Yea, I do carry a can of WD-40 to spray down into the action, and the ejectors, just in case it gets a bath again.  The only thing delicate is the scope.  I should just go ahead and put a small Night Force on it.  They are not delicate, and they are guaranteed not to break.  Once this Nikon goes that is what I'll do.

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« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2013, 02:31:47 PM »
Cool story Sourdough. It looks as if the people who get one don't usually give them up.
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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2013, 02:51:10 PM »
Now that I look at the pics I wish Id have picked up that G.S. beater.........snooze ya lose!
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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2013, 03:28:07 PM »
Just to give an opposing opinion.  I have had two 30-06 barrels and couldn't get either one to shoot.  Tried everything.  Multiple bullets and powders.  Tried the washer under the barrel.  Changed scopes and still would group a couple and then throw a flyer.  Both barrels were factory fitted.  Sent the first one back and they replaced it.  Second one didn't work either.  Still threw flyers.  Have a hornet on the same frame, shoots like a house on fire.  May try it again, a short "handy" 30-06 would be good to have.
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Re: .30-06 doesn't appear to be a popular choice
« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2013, 03:59:55 PM »
Mine likes Federal Premium factory loads. I haven't shot it a lot, but it definitely has been shot more than my Win 70 30-06 has been shot this year. ;)

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« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2013, 04:10:57 PM »
My first gun was a 12 gauge H&R and my first handi-rifle was a 30-06 I bought new in 1996. I still own it. The 30-06 is a great all around caliber. Rick!

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« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2013, 04:34:54 PM »
The 30/06 is a great old cartridge. Never owned one, have no desire to. If I were going to - or had to - own just one gun, I might well buy one in a Savage Axis. I can get one at Walmart for less than a handi. To me handi's are a specialty gun, best suited for rimmed cartridges at moderate pressure. What are you going to use a 30/06 for? Probably big game- deer and maybe elk. A synthetic stocked bolt , parkerized weather finish, inexpensive scope, you are in business. Very practical.
       My handi's are not about practical really..... or I would not look for varmints with a Hornet, or deer with a 45/70. I think that the "average" handi aficionado is a little different, and has a different outlook than the standard shooter. It is not the 30/06.... not the cartridge.... it is the general appetite of the handi consumer. Do you know any other rifle that when the buyer is picking it out, checks the availability of reamers to make it into something else as a major factor ?? ;) 8)
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« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2013, 04:37:26 PM »
The 30-06, .35 Whelen, and 45-70 are the only truly big game cartridges H&R makes guns for.  That's OK the 30-06 will take down anything in North America.  Tow animals I don't want to go after with my Handi is the big Brown Bears of Alaska, and the Wood Bison of Canada.  Yes the 30-06 will kill them, the question is will it kill them before they kill you.
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« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2013, 12:45:44 AM »
The 444 Marlin is for squirrels!

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« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2013, 04:49:02 AM »
"big mortie."
haven't seen that moniker in a while ... :)
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