ATF To Spy On Gun Owners Via “Massive” Database

[coyotejoe]

Even without the "Universal Resistration" which is certain to be the hook in so-called "Universal Background Checks" the ATF already has plans to track gun owners with a few key strokes.
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Paul  Joseph Watson:The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms is  looking to build a huge “online data repository system” capable of spying on  Americans and their associates via the use of just a few keywords, leading to  concerns that the system will be deployed to track gun owners.

“Primarily, the ATF states it wants the database to speed-up  criminal investigations. Instead of requiring an analyst to manually search  around for your personal information, the database should “obtain exact matches  from partial source data searches” such as social security numbers (or even just  a fragment of one), vehicle serial codes, age range, “phonetic name spelling,” or a general area where your address is located. Input that data, and out comes  your identity, while the computer automatically establishes connections you have  with others,” reports  Wired News.

The system is described by the agency as a “massive online data  repository system that contains a wide variety of data sources both historically  and current that can be utilized in support of investigations and  backgrounds.”

Despite being involved in the Fast and Furious scandal that saw  firearms shipped to drug dealers in Mexico, the ATF has increased its efforts to  keep tabs on American gun owners in recent years.

Promises that the database will not be used to track gun  purchases ring hollow given the ATF’s recent efforts to circumvent the law in  order to obtain information on firearms sales.

Last  year it was revealed that the agency was illegally demanding that gun  stores in Alaska submit ’4473 Forms’ going back to 2007, paperwork filled in by  customers purchasing firearms containing their personal information which under  current laws is supposed to be kept by the gun dealer and not sent to any  government agency.

The ATF has hardly established a reputation for itself as a  transparent, honest organization. In  December 2011, it was revealed that the agency discussed exploiting the  Fast and Furious scandal in which it was intimately involved to pass new gun  restrictions in the United States that would force firearms retailers to report  the sale of multiple rifles.

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Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Infowars.com and Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order  Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a host for Infowars Nightly News.

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[spruce]

Somebody should explain to them their job is to CATCH criminals, not MAKE them.

[woodduck99]

  Im worried about Obama care used to spy.Mental health evaluations. It would be pretty easy for a "provider" to say just about anyone has some kind of issue.In other words Medical surveillance state.

[coyotejoe]

I know. Recently I was scheduled for a check up at the VA clinic. A few days before the scheduled date a nurse called and said he had some questions to ask which would save time on the appointed day. The first question was "do you feel depressed?". I only answered "no" but I was thinking "and if I did I sure as hell wouldn't tell you". Makes me wonder how many who may actually need help fear the consequences of asking for it. I can easily envision a day when we have neighbors ratting out neighbors and children ratting out their parents to the  "Sanity Police".

[ChungDoQuan]

If it were true single payer insurance (socialized medicine), it wouldn't matter, because they wouldn't be able to refuse your insurance coverage anyway. What you're really afraid of is refusal to pay by the capitalist-run healthcare corporations. As to the gun registration, they already monitor billions of phone calls every day, looking for "terrorists." I'm pretty sure they already know who owns guns. Homeland Security again...

[Doublebass73]

If it were true single payer insurance (socialized medicine), it wouldn't matter, because they wouldn't be able to refuse your insurance coverage anyway. What you're really afraid of is refusal to pay by the capitalist-run healthcare corporations. As to the gun registration, they already monitor billions of phone calls every day, looking for "terrorists." I'm pretty sure they already know who owns guns. Homeland Security again...

"Capitalist" and "Corporatist" are two different  things. We do NOT have a a capitalist run healthcare system, we have a corporatist healthcare system. If we had a true capitalist healthcare system we wouldn't be in this mess.

The ATF needs to be reined in, it's been out of control for a long time.

[Dixie Dude]

That's why the conservatives wanted you to be able to cross state lines to buy health care.  Also allow companies to advertise across state lines.  This would have created more choices, more customised plans, and lower costs.  It would be like homeowners and auto insurance.  There are a lot of companies, and a lot of choices for those and prices aren't too bad.  Now if they only applied that to medical insurance we would not be in this fix.  Also, allowing our manufacturing base to leave the country took the health care they provided their employees away.  What we have with Obamacare is a total mess.  No one likes it, it has raised costs.  With only lower paying jobs available and part time jobs, many people will still not be able to afford insurance or even afford the $1,400 tax penalty for not having it.  Constitution doesn't say anything about health care being a "right", only speach, gun ownership, religion, press, fair trials, and limited federal government. 

[SHOOTALL]

As for the ATF. when a dealer closes down his records are sent to the ATF. I have heard they are entered into a data base. True ? don't know but it would seem possible . Who else would want the expense of storing them ?

[coyotejoe]

I don't "know" but I believe yes, that is true. When I let my FFL expire they came and picked up my records, I don't know why else they would want them.